Obama vs Romney, who are you voting for and why?

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Ridgerunner said:
Jehovah’s Witnesses’ belief about Jesus is perhaps stranger still. Jews think Jesus was just a nice guy and nothing more.

But as between Mormons’ having a weird theology and the murder of a million children per year, you think Romney’s beliefs are more compelling to your sense of moral duty? How many children did the Mormon beliefs kill this year?
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Romney is running for President, not Mormon in Chief. He has my vote in Virginia!
 
Ridgerunner said:
But most wealthy people are not of that sort. I know lots and lots of people who have acquired very substantial wealth, but not one of them inherited it.
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Don’t doubt it, but that’s not entirely true of the fabulously wealthy in New York, the only city where I can even attempt a judgment on that subject.
Regardless, the super wealthy are totally irrelevant to my life.
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Sure, but I see enough praise of the rich on the Forum to believe that they are quite relevant to a lot of posters here. 🤷
 
Ridgerunner said:
Jehovah’s Witnesses’ belief about Jesus is perhaps stranger still. Jews think Jesus was just a nice guy and nothing more.

But as between Mormons’ having a weird theology and the murder of a million children per year, you think Romney’s beliefs are more compelling to your sense of moral duty? How many children did the Mormon beliefs kill this year?
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And if abortion were a State matter which a lot of your Ron Paul / Constitution types argue, I have little doubt, Utah would have abortion as illegal even taking into consideration the official LDS position.
 
Tampa_Dave said:
I get tired of liberals chastising the rich for their wealth. I’m a lawyer and, while not rich, I’m certainly well off.
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Beats my situation where I am a State employee albeit an attorney, with all the “wealth” that one can expect from a person in my position in a poor state.
I apologize for the rant, but I get tired of hearing liberals vilifying those with ‘portfolios’.
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Ever get tired of hearing conservatives on this Forum dumping on the President and the Democratic Party? :hmmm:
 
It truly amazes me that an active, believing, Catholic can not only support a pro abortion politician (can’t say what I would like because I would have to rush to confession and probably get banned from here as well) as president of the USA, but also have a priest agree.

Life, it’s not just for the already born.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Beats my situation where I am a State employee albeit an attorney, with all the “wealth” that one can expect from a person in my position in a poor state.

Ever get tired of hearing conservatives on this Forum dumping on the President and the Democratic Party? :hmmm:
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You chose to become a state employee. No doubt you have an impressive benefit and retirement package that is the envy of many people in the private sector.

Not when they’re dumping on them for good cause, i.e. anti-Catholic policies, wealth re-distribution, government waste, rising national deficit, etc.
 
Tampa_Dave said:
I get tired of liberals chastising the rich for their wealth. I’m a lawyer and, while not rich, I’m certainly well off. I do not envy lawyers, doctors, business executives or heirs who have accumulated more wealth than I have. Nor do I look down on anyone with less. Money has nothing to do with character except for how its presence or absence influences the individual’s attitude and actions towards others. Wealthy and poor alike have no patent on greed or generosity, goodness or evil.
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👍 I agree with all of this.

I am neither a liberal nor a rich-basher.

The only thing is, those who have always lived in a wealth bubble like Mitt Romney do not understand the inconveniences and economic struggles of everyday life that most of us go through. This is not a problem in itself – yet when you run for President, it is a problem since it guides, or misguides, your policies.
 
Al_Moritz said:
Again you’re missing the obvious point. Nice try – try again.
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Al, besides appearing envious you have no point. Everything you have stated here can and has been refuted as downright lies or misleading statements at best.

Every time someone brings up a point to refute what you say, point back to stories from political hacks.

I would hate to even think of living life thinking that half of Americans want to hurt the poor and despise them, even though the actions of the people you malign show a totally different story.

Your affiliation shows that you are a freethinker but your thoughts and words are aligning with politico and MSNBC.
 
Rich, is Arkansas a Red State or Blue State? I honestly don’t know. My daughter lives in Alabama, which is clearly a Red State (and quite heavenly for conservatives).
 
Tampa_Dave said:
Rich, is Arkansas a Red State or Blue State? I honestly don’t know. My daughter lives in Alabama, which is clearly a Red State (and quite heavenly for conservatives).
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The entire south is red (especially this time) 🙂
 
Al_Moritz said:
👍 I agree with all of this.

I am neither a liberal nor a rich-basher.

The only thing is, those who have always lived in a wealth bubble like Mitt Romney do not understand the inconveniences and economic struggles of everyday life that most of us go through. This is not a problem in itself – yet when you run for President, it is a problem since it guides, or misguides, your policies.
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FDR was wealthy, yet liberals and/or Democrats seem to appreciate his caring for the poor.
 
Al_Moritz said:
And with this remark you are again missing the point. If you want to claim that that is another example of my alleged “I’m vastly more intelligent than any of you twits” attitude, then be my guest. I don’t have that attitude.

Your failure to see certain things has nothing to do with lack of intelligence, but with ideological blindness. Even people who are vastly more intelligent than the both of us suffer from that. And I have suffered from it in the past as well.
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I must admit, Al, you are giving one great example of ideological blindness!!! Thanks for the teaching moment.👍
 
Al Moritz said:
If the economy improves, which it will continue to do under Obama,
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Al Moritz:
That is precisely why you live in a right-wing bubble parallel to reality, and I don’t. I live in actual reality.
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roflcantbreathe
 
Tampa_Dave said:
I get tired of liberals chastising the rich for their wealth. I’m a lawyer and, while not rich, I’m certainly well off. I do not envy lawyers, doctors, business executives or heirs who have accumulated more wealth than I have. Nor do I look down on anyone with less. Money has nothing to do with character except for how its presence or absence influences the individual’s attitude and actions towards others. Wealthy and poor alike have no patent on greed or generosity, goodness or evil. I donated to Catholic charities before I made money; I simply donate more now. I am no better than anyone with less means, nor inferior to someone of greater means. I’m voting for Romney because I honestly believes he wants everyone else to accumulate more wealth on their own. He does not want to re-distribute the wealth of other citizens through government largesse. More importantly, I believe his positions on Catholic issues is more favorable than Obama’s. I apologize for the rant, but I get tired of hearing liberals vilifying those with ‘portfolios’.
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You mischaracterize the criticism of Romney by Democrats. We do not oppose Romney because of his wealth. We are not envious of his success. We think his policies favor the wealthy and continue the transfer of wealth from the working and middle classes to the wealthy over which Republicans. In addition, Republican policies with respect to foreign policy, energy, the environment, regulation, etc., are opposed by Democrats.
 
kookieduck said:
A question I have to ask: has ANY Republican president stopped abortion?

I’m not for abortion or same-sex marriage but I also am not for oppressing the poor and I can not support a non-Christian as leader of our country. So I’ll probably be voting for Obama. I will then be praying that America does not turn her back on Israel.🙂
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When has any democrat stopped the poor from existing? By all economic measurables, they worse now than in 2008. How does this logic only get applied to one side?
 
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