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qui_est_ce
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I love snow. :snowing: Bring it on!
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Rich_Olszewski
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You should have come with me, then, when I went to NYC for Christmas and had over 20 inches of the stuff for days starting the day after Christmas. No subways running, no busses, car owners - forget it. Stores closed. Supermarkets and groceries closed. Walking in snow up to your knees, and then in 6 inches of slush when it started to melt.
You would have been on the first flight back to St. Louis!
Now, I like up to 4 inches of snow, but after that…no way.
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qui_est_ce
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Made it home safe and sound. Airport’s closed.You should have come with me, then, when I went to NYC for Christmas and had over 20 inches of the stuff for days starting the day after Christmas. No subways running, no busses, car owners - forget it. Stores closed. Supermarkets and groceries closed. Walking in snow up to your knees, and then in 6 inches of slush when it started to melt.
You would have been on the first flight back to St. Louis!
Now, I like up to 4 inches of snow, but after that…no way.
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ishii
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Glad we agree.
They would be a lot more effective if: 1) they didn’t have to deal with the Democrats joined at the hip with the abortion rights lobby who oppose any effort to curtail abortion rights or get a constructionist supreme court justice. Remember Bork? 2) They got more votes from Catholics. Obama got lots of votes from catholics and that helped him get elected and in turn, get two pro-abortion rights justices on the supreme court. What kind of justices would McCain have nominated? We’ll never know will we, because too many Catholics didn’t give the Republicans a chance to be “effectively pro-life”. I think it is reasonable to say that there is a good chance that Roe V Wade would have been overturned or about to be overturned had McCain been elected. The point is, of course there are Republican politicians who are probably not all that effective, no one has said the GOP is perfect - yet you continue to imply that those who vote for the GOP thinks the GOP is perfect. It can take a long time to reform laws - think how long it took to give blacks full voting rights, e.g. - in the early '60’s decades after the Emancipation Proclamation.
I think the “hatred” of the supposed Republican ideology is way out of proportion and misplaced and overwrought. The Republican ideology is pretty simple: let everyone keep more of their money - both the rich and the non-rich - in order to have a robust economy. The rich end up getting the bigger tax break because they pay more in taxes! But, the tax cuts are across the board. You may think this is the wrong way to do things - fine. There are all kinds of schools of thought on the subject of taxes and the economy. The GOP ideology is really a conservative ideology (or classical liberal if you like) which says its fair play to not penalize people for being successful and making money. The liberal whose ideology justifies confiscating more and more of people’s money is much closer to the “forced abortion” that you mention than the Republican who would like everyone to keep more of their own money.
You got a point there. Ad hominem comments don’t add much to the discussion do they?
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ishii
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You have been talking a lot about morality in your posts. Have you considered the morality of leveling false charges? You ought to. Please provide links/evidence for your belief that the GOP wants to completely deregulate business and eliminate direct taxes on business. Please list which Republican politicians believe what you claim they do, and provide the text to prove it.
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LCMS_No_More
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I’m not talking about stated priorities, I’m talking about what has been demonstrated to be the priorities of the republican ideology. In practice, Republicans are like libertarians who are also opposed to sex and weed. In the end, everyone is completely and utterly on there own and there is no society. That’s a funny way of saying it, but that’s how I see it. Since it’s now I see things, it’s my opinion and I’ve never denied that it is.
I’m not going to play the link game with anyone here. If it’s not a “conservative” source, such as Fox News or the latest talking points from the RNC, I know that it will be derided for being a “liberal” site full of “bias.” There is no reason to jump into that putrid lake and contaminate myself thereby.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Too true. MSNBC, CNN, NPR Radio, NBC, CBS, and ABC are evil leftists, The New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times are parrots of the DNC. And on and on.
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qui_est_ce
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So you’re basically just throwing whatever you want out there with no documentation. “I can say whatever I want, even if it’s not true.”
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LCMS_No_More
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Not at all. The problem is, unless the source of the documentation is from a site that has a right-wing/conservative bias, it will be ignored or derided as “leftist” and “liberal” and the like. I prefer not to play that game, especially around here where there’s always someone ready to take us all down the rabbit hole.So you’re basically just throwing whatever you want out there with no documentation. “I can say whatever I want, even if it’s not true.”
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I hate liberal ideology. All liberals want is to control everybody and make them do what they want. They want to tax us to death to support big brother government. Liberals hate babies, old people, and sick people because they believe in abortion and euthanasia. Obamacare has death panels. Old people will be refused medical care and be told to take a suicide pill.
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It is a standard standard tactic of those Catholics trying to justify their support of the Democratic Party in spite of the parties embracing of the culture of death. The only way they can do this is to demonize the Republican Party beyond recognition. The truth is that the Catholic Church neither endorses nor condemns the approaches of either parties solutions to solving the problems facing the country-that is with the exception of abortion. The Catholic Church categorically condemns the Democratic Party’s support of unrestricted taxpayer-funded abortions on demand. No matter how one wants to spin you cannot overcome this. Rather than try, most just try to change the subject by claiming the Republican Party is evil personified and they are forced to support abortion as the lesser of two evils. The other alternative is to condemn both parties as being equally evil and support so-called pro-life purists who have not a chance in hell of ever being elected. Both of these approaches result in the election of pro-abortion candidates.So you’re basically just throwing whatever you want out there with no documentation. “I can say whatever I want, even if it’s not true.”
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Scott_Lafrance
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I am trying to find the inaccuracies in your charges. Coming up blank. Well, I would drop the 'evil" bit, but the rest is true enough.Too true. MSNBC, CNN, NPR Radio, NBC, CBS, and ABC are evil leftists, The New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times are parrots of the DNC. And on and on.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Touché! - à nouveau!
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ishii
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I’ll take any proof you have. You said that the Republicans want to eliminate all tax and regulations on business. You make wild claims but refuse to back them up. It doesn’t seem like you want to have a discussion so much as subject everyone to your baseless rants. Again, you ought to think about the morality of making false claims. Unless your proof is from the North Korean news paper I will consider your documentation. If its from the Huffington post or some other liberal site I will consider it but maybe with a grain of salt. Either way it is not my intention to lead you down the rabbit hole. My hunch is that you have been exposed as not having any evidence of your claims, and now you’re making excuses for not providing any.
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ishii
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Don’t forget to add, “and everyone should agree with me in spite of me refusing to provide any proof because reasonable rules and standards of civil discourse don’t apply to me. What I say is revealed truth that everyone should accept as fact. End of discussion.”I hate liberal ideology. All liberals want is to control everybody and make them do what they want. They want to tax us to death to support big brother government. Liberals hate babies, old people, and sick people because they believe in abortion and euthanasia. Obamacare has death panels. Old people will be refused medical care and be told to take a suicide pill.
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qui_est_ce
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Crickets
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the silence is deafening. I would consider any evidence or citations LCMS_no_more is willing to give to support her contention that the Republican party is for abolishing all regulations and tax on business. The problem is he/she doesn’t have any.Crickets
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LCMS_No_More
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Asked and answered.
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estesbob
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It is a standard standard tactic of those Catholics trying to justify their support of the Democratic Party in spite of the parties embracing of the culture of death. The only way they can do this is to demonize the Republican Party beyond recognition. The truth is that the Catholic Church neither endorses nor condemns the approaches of either parties solutions to solving the problems facing the country-that is with the exception of abortion. The Catholic Church categorically condemns the Democratic Party’s support of unrestricted taxpayer-funded abortions on demand. No matter how one wants to spin you cannot overcome this. Rather than try, most just try to change the subject by claiming the Republican Party is evil personified and they are forced to support abortion as the lesser of two evils. The other alternative is to condemn both parties as being equally evil and support so-called pro-life purists who have not a chance in hell of ever being elected. Both of these approaches result in the election of pro-abortion candidates.
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Rich_Olszewski
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I’d like to see where the Church categorically condemns the Democratic Party by name.
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