Occupy protests go from peace to "chaos"

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OWS was going on for almost three weeks before the unions wanted to jump on the bandwagon. You are thinking that they have been in existence only as long as they have been covered by the media. Not true.
The rest of your comment is just speculation with no facts to back it up.
Roll you eyes and smirk all you like, but when posting please back up your statement with facts and not opinions. I wonder if it is possible to carry on a debate without quoting Rush or the other bloviators. Let’s give our own honest take on a situation. That might be enlightening.
SEIU and ACORN have been on board since the beginning. This whole thing is orchestrated by the Tides Foundation, who are trying to make it look like a spontaneous uprising. However, you can only keep trust fund babies, drug dealers, and sex offenders idle for so long before they start real trouble.
 
Neither the unions, ACORN, or the President are organizing these protests. They are entirely spontaneous and have no leadership.
:rotfl: Funny. woooooo. I just sponsored my nephew in confirmation tonight, so I am going to keep my comments charitable.
 
You guys should have watched Michael Moore tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC to get a better idea of who makes up the occupy movements across the country. They are everywhere from large cities to smaller towns. Michael himself has been to several sites. He was in Denver tonight.

Had you listened, you would have heard Michael explain if someone is inciting violence, to assume they are not part of the movement.

But you would have also learned that the movement now encompases people of all ages and backgrounds.

Families are bringing their children.

Folks who are simply tired of the injustice in the world. Tired of the corporate stranglehold around their necks.

They are people who only want a job.

People who only want to be able to have a roof over their head and over their family’s heads. Not having to live in fear that they will not.

To be able to afford to see a dr and seek care when they are sick.

Sound familiar? I know I read about these same things in the latter verses of the Gospel of St Matthew Chap 25.

God bless you all and peace.
 
You guys should have watched Michael Moore tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC to get a better idea of who makes up the occupy movements across the country. They are everywhere from large cities to smaller towns. Michael himself has been to several sites. He was in Denver tonight.

Had you listened, you would have heard Michael explain if someone is inciting violence, to assume they are not part of the movement.

But you would have also learned that the movement now encompases people of all ages and backgrounds. Folks simply tired of the injustice in the world. Tired of the corporate stranglehold around their necks.

They are people who only want a job.

People who only want to be able to have a roof over their head and over their family’s heads. Not having to live in fear that they will not.

To be able to afford to see a dr and seek care when they are sick.

Sound familiar? I know I read about these same things in the latter verses of the Gospel of St Matthew Chap 25.

God bless you all and peace.
If that is honestly what their beef is, they should approach and collaborate with the Tea Party, because we stand for the same thing…with the added gripe about corporations buying and selling favors with the government. If OWS would add government corruption as a core feature of what is wrong with our economic system, there wouldn’t be a whole lot of difference between the two.
 
If that is honestly what their beef is, they should approach and collaborate with the Tea Party, because we stand for the same thing…with the added gripe about corporations buying and selling favors with the government. If OWS would add government corruption as a core feature of what is wrong with our economic system, there wouldn’t be a whole lot of difference between the two.
Scott, corporate influence on our politics is also a beef of the occupiers. The difference between the two groups I think is not so much what they want. But in policy in how to achieve it.
 
Scott, corporate influence on our politics is also a beef of the occupiers. The difference between the two groups I think is not so much what they want. But in policy in how to achieve it.
It’s not so much of corporate influence, I don’t think anyway. But political/corporate cronyism. They scratch each others backs. Obama/Immelt are proof of this.

If they don’t like it, limit government. Force it to work within the confines of the constitution.

Anything else and they will end up where they are now.
 
As long as the OWS does not protest the Obama administration and its role in the ongoing corporatist agenda, there is no reason to see them as anything other than a branch of the Democratic party.

Obama did not live up to his promise that he was going to change the way business is done in Washington. But the left will not protest against their own.
 
:rotfl: Funny. woooooo. I just sponsored my nephew in confirmation tonight, so I am going to keep my comments charitable.
Scott, now I know why you were so charitable to me and Michael Moore in my post. 👍 I attended a Confirmation Mass earlier this yr at a parish where I’ve attended Mass. Congrats to your nephew on his Confirmation.
 
OWS has hurt a lot of small businesses … forced them out … due to the heavy damage.

Even before some of them girded themselves for combat with police, donning masks and wielding black shields emblazoned with skeletons, the “Occupy” protesters in Oakland, Calif., engaged in a willfully destructive act. They shut down the fifth-busiest container port in America.

**Why would anyone acting in the name of people harmed by the Great Recession interrupt the flow of commerce, especially at a hub employing dockworkers and truckers? **

It was a symbolic blow AND AN ACTUAL BLOW against our economic system as such, and by definition a radical act.

It’s become clear during the past few weeks that there is lawlessness at the heart of OWS.
 
You guys should have watched Michael Moore tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC to get a better idea of who makes up the occupy movements across the country. They are everywhere from large cities to smaller towns. Michael himself has been to several sites. He was in Denver tonight.

Had you listened, you would have heard Michael explain if someone is inciting violence, to assume they are not part of the movement.

But you would have also learned that the movement now encompases people of all ages and backgrounds.

Families are bringing their children.

Folks who are simply tired of the injustice in the world. Tired of the corporate stranglehold around their necks.

They are people who only want a job.

People who only want to be able to have a roof over their head and over their family’s heads. Not having to live in fear that they will not.

To be able to afford to see a dr and seek care when they are sick.

Sound familiar? I know I read about these same things in the latter verses of the Gospel of St Matthew Chap 25.

God bless you all and peace.
Someone sent me an email describing the Occupy Wall Street group. There wasn’t a link, so here is the whole essay:

Call it an occupational hazard, but I can’t look at the Occupy Wall Street protesters without thinking, “Who parented these people?”

As a culture columnist, I’ve commented on the social and political ramifications of the “movement” - now known as “OWS” - whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: “Everything for everybody.”

Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it’s clear there are people with serious designs on “transformational” change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel. Yet it’s not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting question, but rather the fact that I’m the mother of four teens and young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters’ moms clearly have not passed along. Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters’ mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn’t, so I will:
  1. Life isn’t fair. The concept of justice - that everyone should be treated fairly - is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, “You can?t always get what you want.” No matter how you try to “level the playing field,” some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they’re dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance, and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.
  2. Nothing is “free”. Protesting with signs that seek “free” college degrees and “free” health care make you look like idiots, because colleges and hospitals don’t operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and “slow paths” to adulthood, and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical. While I’m pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free: overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling, repairs to fixtures and property, condoms, Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens. Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.
  3. Your word is your bond. When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don’t require loans, or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your on-going educational goals. Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization. It’s a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for - literally.
  4. A protest is not a party. On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn’t evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don’t dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don’t seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.
  5. There are reasons you haven’t found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gouged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn’t a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It’s not them. It’s you.
Marybeth Hicks is the author of “Don’t Let the Kids Drink the Kool-Aid: Confronting the Left’s Assault on Our Families, Faith and Freedom.” Find her on the Web at www.marybethhicks.com. Copyright 2011 The Washington Times, LLC.
 
I saw a segment on Colbert this week on this movement. Now I know they only had two random people on the show that were chosen by the crowd at hand to represent them, but their ideas were idealistic, naive and sophmoric. They wanted to for the rich and powerful. Still, I think many comparisons between the two movements can be made. The Tea Party wants to be left more alone by government, and this group wants business to leave them alone. Both sides need to consider the realism of what they want. Both movements are based in emotion, which is not a bad thing, but reason needs to temper goals. This latest group is a younger demographic and is more prone to naivete.

We are an interdependent society. No one group needs to be marginalized. Even the rights of the “1 percenters” must be respected as much as the other 99. It seems like I have heard this elsewhere. 😊
 
Utter nonsense. OWS isn’t a defined organization and it has no structure or leaders so it can’t be “arm and arm” with any group. The overall movement isn’t responsible if some anarchists pop out of the woodwork and commit crimes.
Then how is it they have a bank account opened at Amalgamated Bank with over
$ 500,000 in it?🤷
 
I’ve been active in the Tea Party, and in all my experiences I found it to be, pardon the expression, a very broad church, with everyone from pro-Patriot Act Neo Conservatives to 9-11 Truthers, Libertarians, Ron Paul supporters, Alan Keyes supporters, Bachmann, Cain, etc, pro gun activists, anti abortion activists, Traditional Catholics and Evangelical Protestants, as well as a few I met who described themselves as atheists. Some groups committed themselves to campaigning for candidates that many others wanted no part of, and therefore offered no assistance.
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           Personally I never felt controlled by anyone, because if it's an issue I don't support, I simply do not show up. 

          As far as any comparison between the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. It's simply absurd. OWS has more than a few people who will openly admit they're radical socialists who are seeking violent confrontation.
 
You guys should have watched Michael Moore tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC to get a better idea of who makes up the occupy movements across the country. They are everywhere from large cities to smaller towns. Michael himself has been to several sites. He was in Denver tonight.

Had you listened, you would have heard Michael explain if someone is inciting violence, to assume they are not part of the movement.

But you would have also learned that the movement now encompases people of all ages and backgrounds.

Families are bringing their children.

Folks who are simply tired of the injustice in the world. Tired of the corporate stranglehold around their necks.

They are people who only want a job.

People who only want to be able to have a roof over their head and over their family’s heads. Not having to live in fear that they will not.

To be able to afford to see a dr and seek care when they are sick.

Sound familiar? I know I read about these same things in the latter verses of the Gospel of St Matthew Chap 25.

God bless you all and peace.
Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore and MSNBC are beacons of honest and fair reporting.

:rolleyes:
 
Michael Moore is also a stellar example of the bourgeoise 99%. 👍
Wasn’t there an interview or something that confronted Michael Moore on the irony that the royalties from his “empire” most likely puts him in the 1%?
 
OWS is a just a crowd of random people who happen to be gathered at the same place not a defined and organized institution with stated goals like the Tea Party was.
Maybe that’s because the Tea Party wants to change things by peaceful means, to build up, whereas OWS only wants to tear things down and destroy the system.
Neither the unions, ACORN, or the President are organizing these protests. They are entirely spontaneous and have no leadership.
Mobs rarely do.
You guys should have watched Michael Moore tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC to get a better idea of who makes up the occupy movements across the country.
  1. I wouldn’t believe anything that came out of Michael Moore’s mouth, even if it was “good morning”. The man is a pathological liar, as evidenced by the ludicrous content of his pseudo-“documentaries”.
  2. Rachel Maddow is a shill for the Democrat Party. Everything she produces is propaganda.
  3. Same for MSNBC.
They are people who only want a job.
They’re not going to find one by spray-painting anarchist slogans on ATM machines, blockading ports, raping young women in parks, and defecating on police cars.

I’m sorry, Matt, but these people (especially the gang in Oakland) are not down-on-their-luck folks wanting honest work; they are anarachist scum who only want to tear down something that someone else has built, usually something that has nothing to do with the institutions they’re supposedly so angry with. What does defecating on a police car have to do with expressing displeasure with Wall Street?
 
His $50 million in assets puts him in the 1%.
At least he used union workers to film and produce his documentaries…

What…he didn’t…he used non union…

What a Hypocrite!!! I am do disappointed in him now…

:mad:
 
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