One brave women who said NO to Muhammed.

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Salaam/peace
… I challenge any Muslim here to come up with just one post about Islam where I have lied in, :
In your one post u wrote : Jesus downgraded by Muhammed from Lord to least prophet. ------Satan decieved Muhammed (p) etc.

If you read Bible carefully , u will see that repeatedly Jesus (p) said only God is good , God is greater than All etc. Jesus (p) does not know when will be the last day …huh & u expect he can save u on that day.

As Sis Amy said the lowest place in hell is for hypocrites . So , pl. make up your mind --submit fully to Jesus (p) or make sincere repentance to God & stop worshipping human being .
 
In your one post u wrote : Jesus downgraded by Muhammed from Lord to least prophet. ------Satan decieved Muhammed (p) etc.
Anyone would question someone when he elevates himself above from Christ, Jesus. Mohammad was no prophet.
If you read Bible carefully , u will see that repeatedly Jesus (p) said only God is good , God is greater than All etc. Jesus (p) does not know when will be the last day …huh & u expect he can save u on that day.
I think it is you who seriously needs to re-examine what the Bible truly teaches and understand its contents in a clearer light.
As Sis Amy said the lowest place in hell is for hypocrites . So , pl. make up your mind --submit fully to Jesus (p) or make sincere repentance to God & stop worshipping human being .
I think Sam_777 knows better not to submit himself to the whimsical opinions of a human being who has very little understanding of Christian beliefs.
 
if it’s an authentic hadith , it proves that Prophet (p) honoured the choice of the woman & did not force her to marry him . I feel pity for her , she missed the chance to be an honourable wife of a blessed Prophet of God Almighty .
hahah mohammed di not honour women he thought most of them had mental deficiencies and were bound for hell.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet said: “I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you.”

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah’s Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, **as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle ?” He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence **and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” **He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” **They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

Sahih Muslim Book 001, Number 0142:
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Umar that the Messenger of Allah observed: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense, and you spend some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Abu Tahir with this chain of transmitters.

and here are some verses from the hadith of tabri to ponder

Tabari IX:113
“Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like** domestic animals **and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Tabari I:280
"Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

There are numerous verses in the koran ad ahadith which proves mohamemd didnt honour women and just used them to fuel his own lust. these werej sut a few
 
Salaam/peace
…The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women
Prophet (p) described what he saw , what’s so wrong with it ? If it’s an authentic hadith , then all women should be more careful about the hereafter & try hard not to be one of them there.
There are numerous verses in the koran ad ahadith which proves mohamemd didnt honour women and just used them to fuel his own lust. these werej sut a few
Idol worshippers offered him to stop preaching of oneness of God . They offered him money , power , beautiful women etc. His uncle came to him with their proposal & ans
of the last Prophet was :

O uncle, if they were to put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand to stop me from preaching Islam, I would never stop. I will keep preaching until Allah makes Islam prevail or I die."
 
Idol worshippers offered him to stop preaching of oneness of God . They offered him money , power , beautiful women etc. His uncle came to him with their proposal & ans
of the last Prophet was :

O uncle, if they were to put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand to stop me from preaching Islam, I would never stop. I will keep preaching until Allah makes Islam prevail or I die."
Spoken like a true Mujaheddin.
 
Salaam/peace

In your one post u wrote : Jesus downgraded by Muhammed from Lord to least prophet. ------Satan decieved Muhammed (p) etc.
If you read your Koran carefully, you will see that Mohammad actually hated Jesus and taught that Jesus would be the firewood of Hell:

Surah 21:98-99
Surely you and what you worship besides Allah are the firewood of hell; to it you shall come. Had these been gods, they would not have come to it and all shall abide therein.

According to this verse, EVERYTHING that is worshipped beside Allah will burn in Hell. Surah 9:30 says that Christians worshipped Jesus beside Allah. The conclusion of these two premises is that Jesus will burn in Hell.

I hope you can see now the true face of Mohammad’s teachings 😉
 
And the other option is Sam… a “nice man” as you put it.

But in fact, Sam is something else. There’s a special word for what Sam is. If you ask him a question about himself, he’ll give you a cryptic answer–one for his “flesh” and one for his “soul.” Is this dichotomy indicative of multiple personality disorder or something of the like? I don’t think so. What Sam is is a man who is proclaiming to be a pious Muslim on the outside, while inwardly holding contempt for Islam. He’s not Christian, or a Muslim, but he pretends to be one (or the other.)

And the word for such a person is a munafiq.

And a munafiq is someone who will be punished in the deepest level of hell.

And you think I would rather marry him… ?

A munafiq–a liar, a traitor, a hypocrite–over the messenger of God? :eek:

I hope I made myself clear.
Oh wow…maybe your brother-in-law was onto something, Sister Amy!! Sam is a Christian in his beliefs, obviously, but since he lives in Saudi Arabia, he cannot convert and be baptized because not only are priests and churches banned there, but if Sam_777 was open about his abandoning Islam, he would probably be turned in and beheaded…this is Islam for you.

I bet you secretly are OK with Muslims killing Christians, Sister Amy…you just have to keep up the act of being a “moderate Muslim” here in the U.S.
 
Salaam/peace

Prophet (p) described what he saw , what’s so wrong with it ? If it’s an authentic hadith , then all women should be more careful about the hereafter & try hard not to be one of them there.

Idol worshippers offered him to stop preaching of oneness of God . They offered him money , power , beautiful women etc. His uncle came to him with their proposal & ans
of the last Prophet was :

O uncle, if they were to put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand to stop me from preaching Islam, I would never stop. I will keep preaching until Allah makes Islam prevail or I die."
I would kill every one of you if you tried to force Islam on me! :mad:
 
I would kill every one of you if you tried to force Islam on me! :mad:
Oh, gosh, I hope not. I hope that we all have the grace to die martyrs peacefully. 🙂

By the way, I’ll convert when you pry the pork ribs from my cold, dead hands. 👍
 
Anyone would question someone when he elevates himself above from Christ, Jesus. Mohammad was no prophet.
** Cathopologist, Jesus is no god. He never said he was god. He never told any one to pray to him or to worship him. He was rather himself praying to some one else and calling some one for help when on the cross.

God do not pray. Please understand**.
I think it is you who seriously needs to re-examine what the Bible truly teaches and understand its contents in a clearer light.
**We have read the bible and we sincerely believe that the christians have been cheated by some one and misled to the highest degree. It is their own business. They may correct themselves if they feel like.

Christians have to look around for their enemies. Muhammad or Muslims are not the enemies of Jesus or christians.

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I think Sam_777 knows better not to submit himself to the whimsical opinions of a human being who has very little understanding of Christian beliefs.
Yes Sam_777 can do what he/she likes. We have no objection. He/ she should have a good realistic faith. Otherwise the children will suffer upto many generations.
 
Spoken like a true Mujaheddin.
**Cathopologist, that was spoken more like Jesus. That was in Makkah where the Muslims were being beaten and persecuted. The prophet was preaching the One-ness of God. The Pagans did not like it. They came and offered him a mountain of Gold. He said he did not need any gold.

Then the pagans offered him the kingship of the country. He said that he did not like to be any king.

Then they offered him a very beautiful (most beautiful ) woman. He said he did not need any woman.

Those pagans wanted the prophet to stop his preachings against the idols. It was exactly as his fore-father (Abraham) in ancient times had preached against the idols in Iraq.

Any one can see that he was a true man of God. Exactly peaceful and loving like Jesus in Palestine.**
 
Oh, gosh, I hope not. I hope that we all have the grace to die martyrs peacefully. 🙂

By the way, I’ll convert when you pry the pork ribs from my cold, dead hands. 👍
Ralph, That seemed to be a good post. But only first line is understood. The second line is cryptic.If you could explain the pork business
 
Ralph, That seemed to be a good post. But only first line is understood. The second line is cryptic.If you could explain the pork business
Here in the United States, there is a saying that I will give up my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. In other words, I will not surrender my gun to be at your mercy.

Even if I decide that there is no Jesus, I will not give up my pork.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Pork.
 
Here in the United States, there is a saying that I will give up my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. In other words, I will not surrender my gun to be at your mercy.

Even if I decide that there is no Jesus, I will not give up my pork.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Pork.
Ralph, thanks. you have explained it well. So pork is your gun. or its equivalent??
 
Ralph, thanks. you have explained it well. So pork is your gun. or its equivalent??
No. My gun is my gun. My pork is my personal form of knowing, deep down, that Islam is wrong no matter what other proof you have.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Pork.
 
No. My gun is my gun. My pork is my personal form of knowing, deep down, that Islam is wrong no matter what other proof you have.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Pork.
ralph, if you go by the pork to test the religions then I hope the Judaism must be in the same lot of false religions along with Islam.???
 
Oh, gosh, I hope not. I hope that we all have the grace to die martyrs peacefully. 🙂

By the way, I’ll convert when you pry the pork ribs from my cold, dead hands. 👍
They’ll have to pry the Guinness stout from my cold, dead hands…
 
** Cathopologist, Jesus is no god. He never said he was god. He never told any one to pray to him or to worship him. He was rather himself praying to some one else and calling some one for help when on the cross.**
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**Jesus is God. It’s all over the Bible. You just don’t read it. You browse through its contents just like any other Muslim does, hoping to find some inconsistency.
God do not pray. Please understand.
Jesus was teaching us how to pray. Please understand.
We have read the bible and we sincerely believe that the christians have been cheated by some one and misled to the highest degree. It is their own business. They may correct themselves if they feel like.
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As i mentioned above; Muslims browse the Bible. Reading means to understand. Obviously you don’t. Christians honestly believe Muslims have been duped by an impostor.
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Christians have to look around for their enemies. Muhammad or Muslims are not the enemies of Jesus or christians.
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Christians are commanded to love thy neighbour. But if our neighbour behaves improperly or conducts immoral practices, it is our duty to correct them. If they wage war, we have the right to defend ourselves. Muslims look for trouble. Look to Jerusalem and Spain. Don’t learn history from Islamic revisionists. Learn actual history.
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Yes Sam_777 can do what he/she likes. We have no objection. He/ she should have a good realistic faith. Otherwise the children will suffer upto many generations.
Like how your generation did and still are? (suffering that is ;))
 
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