One issue I have with the Second Amendment crowd

[phil19034]

There’s just as many saying the opposite plus the added argument of spreading awareness of what happens in schools.

True. But when faithful Catholic sources say it’s harmful, I tend to give credence to the professionals who are against it.

Perhaps I will watch it one day to see the messages it sends. But not anytime soon, as I don’t want to contribute to good ratings.

And I surely will not let my kids watch it.

 

[Theo520]

There’s just as many saying the opposite plus the added argument of spreading awareness of what happens in schools.

I’ve seen part of it, felt it rationalized suicide, which I think is the wrong message.

People in the schools and the kids are already aware of what happens in schools. Yes, there are some adults who have forgotten, but I don’t really see the big value in reminding them of their youth.

 

[phil19034]

I’ve seen part of it, felt it rationalized suicide, which I think is the wrong message.

Yes, this is what I’ve read from the professionals & church officials who have spoken out against this series. They have all said it rationalizes suicide, which is very harmful.

 

[Cyril]

True. But when faithful Catholic sources say it’s harmful, I tend to give credence to the professionals who are against it.

They arn’t very good professionals then.

And I surely will not let my kids watch it.

The fact you think your kids are even remotely involved with this show illustrates both your professionals and your lack of awareness on the subject.

I’ve seen part of it, felt it rationalized suicide, which I think is the wrong message.

It doesn’t.

Yes, this is what I’ve read from the professionals & church officials who have spoken out against this series. They have all said it rationalizes suicide, which is very harmful.

And here is the harm of group think in motion, no it doesn’t.

 

[phil19034]

phil19034:

True. But when faithful Catholic sources say it’s harmful, I tend to give credence to the professionals who are against it.

They arn’t very good professionals then.

And I surely will not let my kids watch it.

The fact you think your kids are even remotely involved with this show illustrates both your professionals and your lack of awareness on the subject.

I’ve seen part of it, felt it rationalized suicide, which I think is the wrong message.

It doesn’t.

Yes, this is what I’ve read from the professionals & church officials who have spoken out against this series. They have all said it rationalizes suicide, which is very harmful.

And here is the harm of group think in motion, no it doesn’t.

You are entitled to your opinion. But you should not pass judgment on others who have a different OPINION.

God Bless

 

[phil19034]

And here is the harm of group think in motion, no it doesn’t.

BTW - one can argue that your opinion is “group think in motion” as well.

 

[Theo520]

It doesn’t.

Yup, that’s your opinion and you are welcome to it.

Just stop insisting others can’t have seen the series and come rationally to a different conclusion

Many do think is glorifies suicide. I just used the term rationalized, but effectively same result.

Why people are saying the Netflix hit '13 Reasons Why' glorifies suicide and is 'dangerous'

Experts say that "13 Reasons Why" could be an extremely harmful lesson for teens having suicidal thoughts.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Cyril]

Your opinions are not you and are totally legitimate targets of criticism. You swap them out as you go through life and should NEVER be treated sacred in any capacity. Not saying you have per say but just stressing the point.

BTW - one can argue that your opinion is “group think in motion” as well.

I mentioned getting my ideas from a group?

Many do think is glorifies suicide. I just used the term rationalized, but effectively same result.

Well here is the problem of that “why?” The why one would make that for the intent of purpose of glorifying suicide? To insinuate that without addressing the intention of the creator robs us of any constructive conversation. could it have been made better? Sure but we will never have that conversation because you listened to one narrow-minded person who nit picks just to find a moral fault then disregard any further conversation on the topic.

THAT is the problem.

You want to have an opinion after that conversation then be my guest.

 

[pnewton]

They arn’t very good professionals then.

Because the do not agree with Netflix entertainment? You may be right, but I hardly think entertainment based information is worth much.

 

[Cyril]

but I hardly think entertainment based information is worth much.

Isaac Asimov once said, “Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinded critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all.

Same can be said for many other shows.

 

[Theo520]

It can glorify suicide without that being the intent of the writer/producer.
Many things in this world are known to have unintended consequences.

I haven’t read anyone say the rationalization of suicide in the series was intentional. That you fixate on we think it was the intent, blinds your eyes to alternate interpretations of the content

 

[Cyril]

That you fixate on we think it was the intent, blinds your eyes to alternate interpretations of the content.

You don’t get to say “Someone told me this because this” and act on that information then pretend you didn’t assume the same conclusion.

 

[Theo520]

You don’t get to say “Someone told me this because this” and act on that information then pretend you didn’t assume the same conclusion.

I have no idea what you are talking about?

My impression and initial comment were based on watching the first several episodes, when it was released. Only today did I seek out articles that agreed with my view but contradict your interpretation.

You are way too defensive.

 

[Cyril]

You are way too defensive.

I’m not your standard model human, I just type out the fastest approximation of my thoughts to get the facts down. Flower words are for people who are vastly more charismatic then me.

I’m not defensive, I just think your short sighted and dismissive for reasons that are illogical.
We finally have a series willing to say whats been unsaid for years and its getting swept under the rug on a point that has little to do with message.

I expect that derailing from politicians who cant bare to see the opposite side gain clout.