Only 31 deaths of children under age 15 involving COVID-19. Common flu-related child deaths from 37 to 187 during regular flu season. Should Governors

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JoeFreedom said:
Google IS censoring conservative news.
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But are they censoring it because it is conservative, or because it is dangerous to the health of others? I these “leftists” were to act in a way contrary to their use agreement, they too would be “censored.”

In any case, they are not a government agency and there are other choices out there if you do not trust them.
 
JoeFreedom said:
DO NOT hide behind lies and obfuscation. Google IS censoring conservative news.
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There has been no positive evidence of that, only theories. I already told you how the Google ranking algorithm works and how it could explain why some websites don’t appear as high up in the list as others. These algorithms are automatic. Google does not have the time or the manpower to comb through all the websites looking for conservative content to suppress.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
There has been no positive evidence of that, only theories. I already told you how the Google ranking algorithm works and how it could explain why some websites don’t appear as high up in the list as others. These algorithms are automatic. Google does not have the time or the manpower to comb through all the websites looking for conservative content to suppress.
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It’s amazing how people don’t understand that, even after you tell them.
 
Well, yes. There are any number of youtube videos from people claiming to be dr.'s and suggesting various supplements to cure this or that. They are required to have a disclaimer such as to check with your physician first before starting this or any other regimen etc. Why are they all still there but this particular video was taken down? Why did they not just require a disclaimer as the others have and leave it up? It certainly makes one wonder.
 
New information from the CDC–Here is the report–July 31 (last Friday). SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp — Georgia, June 2020 | MMWR

bottom line: 363 campers, median age 12, actual ages ranged from 6-19 in Georgia at the end of June.
Of those 6-10 years old, 51% tested positive. This contradicts earlier studies that said 6-10 year olds got the virus and transmitted the virus less than older people. 36 of off all those (not just the children, everyone) who tested positive had no symptoms.

There was an article in the Wash. Post about it today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/31/georgia-children-covid-outbreak/

Here are the highlights:

June 17-20–orientation for 138 trainees & 120 staff members

June 21-27–120 staff members joined by 363 campers and 3 more senior staff

All of them had to provide proof of a negative covid-19 test taken less than 12 days before arriving. Only staff wore masks. They did not open windows and doors. There was daily singing and cheering.

June 23 (two days after opening the camp) a staffer left with chills. The next day another staffer tested positive.

June 24–campers sent home

June 27–camp closed

Georgia Dept. of Health followed up.
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Total of 597 Georgia residents were at the camp (they didn't track non-Ga. residents)

Camper age:   6-19, median age = 12

staff/trainee ages:   14-59, median age =17
344 were tested; 260 of them (76%) tested positive; 42% of the total number at the camp were positive

51% of those 6-10 tested positive

36 who tested positive showed no symptoms

not clear if some were infected before attending the camp

since not all the campers/staff were tested, the positives were probably an underestimate
 
LeafByNiggle said:
That video of the “America’s Frontline Doctors” was rightfully taken down for disinformation. The doctors in that video have a history of making unproven, conspiratorial or bizarre medical claims. They are not some random collection of concerned physicians.
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Trump referenced “Dr. Stella Immanuel” and said she was “very impressive.” Now I’m sure you’ve been wondering…“Who is Dr. Stella?” Wonder no more. She gave a little speech in front of the Supreme Court:

“Nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure - it is called hydroxychloroquine, I have treated over 350 patients and not had one death,” said Dr. Immanuel."

She was born in 1965 in Cameroon and got her MD in Nigeria, at the U. of Calabar. She now practices in Houston. But wait! There’s more! She is the founder and pastor of “Fire Power Ministries.” She has made various claims throughout the years:
  1. alien DNA is being used in medical treatments;
  2. scientists were trying to develop a vaccine to make people less religious;
  3. some medical conditions are caused by witches and demons;
  4. gay marriage can result in adults marrying children.
After her Facebook videos were removed for spreading false information, she said Jesus would destroy Facebook’s servers if her videos weren’t restored. Last I looked, Facebook’s servers were just fine.

All very impressive indeed! Trump was right! I’m definitely impressed by her…but not in a good way!
I’ll add this from Snopes: " The website lists sermons such as “Deliverance from Foundational or Family Line Witchcraft” and “Deliverance from Spirit wives and Spirit husbands… Immanuel also has sermons on her now-deleted website saying that “tormenting spirits are responsible” for “serious gynecological problems” and “impotence.”

Let’s see…science vs. witchcraft…that’s a tough one.
 
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I just posted this on another thread, and some of you are on that one as well. But for those who are not, this is relevant to the issue of schools opening or staying closed:

New information from the CDC–Here is the report–July 31 (last Friday). SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an Overnight Camp — Georgia, June 2020 | MMWR

bottom line: 363 campers, median age 12, actual ages ranged from 6-19 in Georgia at the end of June.
Of those 6-10 years old, 51% tested positive. This contradicts earlier studies that said 6-10 year olds got the virus and transmitted the virus less than older people. 36 of of all those (not just the children, everyone) who tested positive had no symptoms.

There was an article in the Wash. Post about it today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/31/georgia-children-covid-outbreak/

Here are the highlights:

June 17-20–orientation for 138 trainees & 120 staff members

June 21-27–120 staff members joined by 363 campers and 3 more senior staff

All of them had to provide proof of a negative covid-19 test taken less than 12 days before arriving. Only staff wore masks. They did not open windows and doors. There was daily singing and cheering.

June 23 (two days after opening the camp) a staffer left with chills. The next day another staffer tested positive.

June 24–campers sent home

June 27–camp closed

Georgia Dept. of Health followed up.
Code: 
Total of 597 Georgia residents were at the camp (they didn't track non-Ga. residents)

Camper age:   6-19, median age = 12

staff/trainee ages:   14-59, median age =17
344 were tested; 260 of them (76%) tested positive; 42% of the total number at the camp were positive

51% of those 6-10 tested positive

36 who tested positive showed no symptoms

not clear if some were infected before attending the camp

since not all the campers/staff were tested, the positives were probably an underestimate

And of course we still have no way to tell who infected whom–just circumstantial evidence that person A got symptoms before person B, but since symptoms appear at different rates in different people, that’s just a rough guess.
 
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This is the first day of school in Paulding County Georgia. Like lambs to the slaughter. But don’t worry, this county has only had 1,495 cases and 19 deaths so far. Although I’m willing to bet that number increases significantly in the next two-three weeks. Remember that although there is some evidence that children 10 and under don’t get or spread Covid-19 as much as others, teenagers are just as apt to get and spread Covid-19 as anyone else.
 
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Wow! What a terrible start! I believe we need to get schools open, but that doesn’t mean we have to be stupid about it.
 
Kind of reminds me of how closely packed together the Antifa and Black Lives Matter protesters and rioters (leftist media favorites) often are.
 
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JoeFreedom said:
She is not scared of COVID.
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For good reason:


Just how small is the risk for teachers returning to school classrooms this fall? The Times of London reports:

There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers. Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March.
 
1cthlctrth said:
Just how small is the risk for teachers returning to school classrooms this fall? The Times of London reports:

There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world , according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers. Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March.
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“# Only 31 deaths of children under age 15 involving COVID-19. Common flu-related child deaths from 37 to 187 during regular flu season. Should Governors trust the science and re-open schools? Or, should all schools be shut down permanently?”

The argument isn’t solely centered around children, which is why your header is deceptive and misleading.

What these kids will do is vector the disease.

Tommy doesn’t have it. Tommy goes to school and gets it. Tommy feels kinda bad, but is otherwise ok. Tommy hugs grammy because he didn’t know he had Covid. Grammy gets it and dies.

That’s the reason why we’re slow to open schools.

Again, they will vector it everywhere.
 
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1cthlctrth said:
There has been no recorded case of a teacher catching the coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world , according to one of the government’s leading scientific advisers. Mark Woolhouse, a leading epidemiologist and member of the government’s Sage committee, told The Times that it may have been a mistake to close schools in March.
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Fake news I’m afraid. Now if we had some way of tracking exactly how the virus moved from one person to another so that we could say “Sally had it and gave it to Johnny” we could say definitively that no student has given it to a teacher. But we have no way of telling where Johnny got infected. Sometimes we can guess–Johnny went to a big party and 20 other people at the party got sick. So yeah, it was probably the party. But there is absolutely no way to tell for sure.

Also, in case no one noticed, almost no schools have been in session during the pandemic. So…let’s think about that…no schools, no students, no way for students at home to pass it to their teachers who are also at home. Huh.

A mistake to close schools in March? We don’t know. Maybe if they stayed open there would be 100s of thousands more deaths. We don’t know.
 
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Erikaspirit16 said:
Fake news I’m afraid. Now if we had some way of tracking exactly how the virus moved from one person to another so that we could say “Sally had it and gave it to Johnny” we could say definitively that no student has given it to a teacher. But we have no way of telling where Johnny got infected. Sometimes we can guess–Johnny went to a big party and 20 other people at the party got sick. So yeah, it was probably the party. But there is absolutely no way to tell for sure.

Also, in case no one noticed, almost no schools have been in session during the pandemic. So…let’s think about that…no schools, no students, no way for students at home to pass it to their teachers who are also at home. Huh.

A mistake to close schools in March? We don’t know. Maybe if they stayed open there would be 100s of thousands more deaths. We don’t know.
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You have commented to the wrong poster. I was showing the quote from 1cathlctrth then I showed an article about teachers which have covid-19. I was disproving the comment that no teachers in the world had covid-19.
In case you missed what I wrote I will repeat it.

 
Montrose said:
I was disproving the comment that no teachers in the world had covid-19.
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To be fair the original claim was that no teachers contracted covid from a pupil. The teacher in your story was not in contact with students. That’s not to say it can’t happen though.
 
I still do not understand this idea that teachers shouldn’t have to go to work. Most of the rest of the country goes to work with at least the same risk as the teachers would have. And, the teachers have an important job to do. If they are so concerned for their lives then they can choose to stay home. No one is forced to work a specific job, they can change occupations and get a stay at home job should they choose.

This is a really weird thread where one type of occupation thinks they are being asked to do more than all the rest of the country.
 
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