Open letter to Cardinal Marx

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My money is on Cardinal Marx him being elected at the next conclave. He’s a truly inspiring visionary leader and a worthy model for us to emulate. He would be an excellent Pope.
 
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I’d prefer Cardinal Burke.

My money is on Cardinal Marx ignoring the open letter like the dubia.
 
Is this facetious? I can’t tell. God spare us another Alexander VI. I don’t think Marx would be anything like Borgia, but I hope it doesn’t come to that.
 
What is an anti Francis diatribe? Is it the article in the OP? Is it the dubia?
 
Another confusing article posted on CAF (Sigh :confused:)

Who is this open letter really written to? Cardinal Marx from Germany won’t care what a journalist in Washington DC has to say about him. It likely won’t even be on the radar of Cardinal Marx.

Is this letter really written to American Catholics conservatives to let them know that they should not follow the German’s lead?
 
Comedian Flip Wilson had a TV show back in the early 70s. In it, one character he played was the pastor of the “Church of what’s happening now.”

Certain members of the Church seem to resemble him and his hip, contemporary beliefs more than they do the teaching of Christ, Tradition or the catechism.

As a general rule, any leader who makes an exclusive group or organization much easier to join and much more relaxed in its beliefs will, if unchecked, make that organization meaningless.

I cannot understand the mindset of those who would so alter the Catholic Church. If they were intellectually honest, they have many non-Catholic options right now, from liberal Episcopalian, to liberal Methodist and many others which have softened their beliefs for the sake of hipness and acceptability and have watched congregations dwindle.

In fact, some congregations more resemble the Star Wars bar scene.
 
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As a general rule, any leader who makes an exclusive group or organization much easier to join and much more relaxed in its beliefs will, if unchecked, make that organization meaningless.
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Yes, but the article was primarily a protest of the Germans and Cardinal Marx wanting to change the tradition of celibacy. What does changing the tradition of celibacy have to do with making an exclusive organization easier to join or relaxing its beliefs?
 
Proposals like this pretty much just amount to the dead burying their dead. As the author notes, we’ve seen it with the Protestants.
 
God bless George Weigel for being a witness to the truth. Cardinal Marx has evidently gone too far. This reminds me of the situation facing Pope Paul VI in 1968. His advisors, and others, gave him similar advice, and he became a witness to the truth instead.
 
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Sooo correct me I’m wrong here but, wouldn’t this put the German Church in schism? If they change teaching for German Catholics that doesn’t agree with the Church’s teaching, wouldn’t that be schism or heresy? Surely they don’t have the authority to do this
 
Ok…this makes sense. Thank you!

My advice is if you really want Cardinal Marx as the next Pope, don’t root for him too much 😉.
 
So if he tries to change Church teaching for the German Church in spite of the Church’s constant teaching what is it then? He can’t bind German Catholics to something that is against Church teaching.
 
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So if he tries to change Church teaching for the German Church in spite of the Church’s constant teaching what is it then? He can’t bind German Catholics to something that is against Church teaching.
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Which specific Church teaching do you think that Cardinal Marx intends to change unilaterally for the German Church? I haven’t seen anything suggesting that he intends to make such a move.
 
Well believing the Church is wrong in Her sexual ethics and believing it needs to be revisited is quite suspicious. Not to mention that this is a German synod and I highly doubt even all the Bishops in Germany will agree with him. How can it produce binding results? Not saying he will but if they decided that homosexual acts were no longer sins, how could that not be heresy?
 
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Well believing the Church is wrong in Her sexual ethics and believing it needs to be revisited is quite suspicious.
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He is doing no such thing. He is proposing discussion on whether the discipline of priestly celibacy should be lifted, which he has every right to do. Priestly celibacy is not a core teaching of the Church. There are already married Catholic priests in the Eastern Catholic Churches, as well as in the Latin Church. Changing the discipline won’t change the tenets of the faith. Nor is he saying that the Synod can or will decide to lift the discipline unilaterally, without consulting Rome.

If he were to become Pope, however, he could lift the discipline at his own discretion, and probably will.
 
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