Open Thread on Zimmerman Verdict

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Of course, if the politicians had allowed the local police to do their job, this would never have gone to court.
Agreed. It was only then that race was dragged into the issue. Much of the “racial” issues were fictitious from the beginning. How many "news: stories were edited to make it appear that Zimmerman said things he didn’t? How many films/pictures/videos were edited to drive the race issue that didn’t exist?
 
Shame on you… why are you race baiting… NO ONE HERE said this had anything to do with race… YOU DID!

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Why else would Z have stalked him? You are blind if you don’t see that in America of course race played a role. Save your righteous indignation for your next meeting.
 
Why else would Z have stalked him? You are blind if you don’t see that in America of course race played a role. Save your righteous indignation for your next meeting.
Because he was acting suspicious and as if he were on drugs. Listen to the first call to the police.
 
No you seem to be blind… YOU seem to see everything as race… I see it as victim vs attacker.

Wow… enough with the personal attacks.

BTW: What meeting are you talking about ?
Why else would Z have stalked him? You are blind if you don’t see that in America of course race played a role. Save your righteous indignation for your next meeting.
 
Yep. If he had got his butt in the house like a good black boy none of this would have happened. Never mind he was a U.S. citizen with rights to be out wherever he wanted at 7 pm.
Or registered as a guest of the gated community as he was supposed too. 🤷
 
We’ve discussed the other issues on the other thread but I would have no problem with
being on Neighborhood watch. I’d rather run the PTA though it’s more my “line of work.” 🙂
I would leave police work up to the police myself and not call people “suspects”
That’s me though. I would not be armed because sometimes when you are “looking for trouble” you find it.
Just for the sake of discussion,all things remain the same in this incident,EXCEPT for GZ having a gun… …TM continues to pummel GZ…
 
No you seem to be blind… YOU seem to see everything as race… I see it as victim vs attacker.

Wow… enough with the personal attacks.

BTW: What meeting are you talking about ?
You are right and I am sorry if i attacked you personally. But please tell me what give Z the right to stalk an confront anyone? He is not law enforcement.
 
B.S. lead detective wanted to charge manslaughter from the start.
You may want to refrain from such strong language when contradicting a statement from another poster.
Particularly when your own statement can be shown false.
See below link for evidence.

miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510/more-evidence-released-in-zimmerman.html

It seems the lead investigator determined there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

So again, if the politicians had let the police do their work, this would have never gone to trial.
 
Walking up to people’s windows and across yards instead of walking on the sidewalk.
Ok I guess. As I said earlier death could have been avoided if Z had just waited for police. That’s my point. BTW I am a traditionalist Catholic who owns three firearms. I just don feel that it is my role to do the police job for them.
 
Why else would Z have stalked him? You are blind if you don’t see that in America of course race played a role. Save your righteous indignation for your next meeting.
Golly don’t let facts get in the way of a good old race baiting theory!

You claim he was profiled for being black. Did you read any of the testimony? The PROSECUTION played tape after tape of GZ reporting suspicious activity in his neighborhood. In no case did he VOLUNTEER that the suspicious persons were black or hispanic or white. He only responded when asked for a description. Race is pretty much part of any description.

If Martin were being profiled it was because of his behavior. You cannot possibly claim that had Martin been proceeding along the sidewalk, grocery bag in hand, obviously on his way home, that GZ would have even noticed him?

Take a moment and READ the transcripts. Martin WAS behaving in a way to attract GZ’s attention as a concerned citizen as well as a Neighborhood Watch member. Meandering around under the eves of homes on a dark rainy night doesn’t seem that innocent to me. If I drove through my neighborhood on a dark rainy night and saw someone in a hoodie appearing to be meandering around, under the eves of the homes, not seeming to have anywhere to go I would have been suspicious too.

I live in a nice quiet family neighborhood but my neighbor across the street had her car stolen from out of her driveway one night. Thus if I were looking out my window and saw someone (other than my neighbor) walking around her car at night I might keep an eye on them. I would call my neighbors to make sure there wasn’t a problem. Our neighborhood watches out for each other and I’m glad of that.

It continues to amaze me how you and other ignore the testimony of multiple witnesses, ignore the timeline, and just make stuff up…because you WANT this to be about race not about the facts of the case.

Obama’s DOJ has been a terrible influence on race relations as has Obama. So much for the first black president bringing us together. I’ve never felt this much racial animosity from both sides in my entire life which incidentally does include the days before the Civil Rights Act was passed.

Lisa
 
We don’t know, but technically any fight can end up with someone dead. All it takes is the right punch in the right area or a knock out punch and the person splits their head open when they fall.

Martin was angry when he perceived he was being racially profiled. Zimmerman was angry that people were committing crimes and getting away with them. All that anger and hatred, Jesus was right to link thou shalt not kill to anger…
Well I certainly cannot judge anyone’s soul. My only point is that what was happening in the fight could easily end GZ life. Much less can kill in fact.
 
Apology accepted… 👍 now then… I was raised by a Police Officer ( Step Dad ) he always taught me take race out of the equazion ( sp ? ) look at the facts. Call them person A person B 1 or 2 etc. THEN come to a conclusion. Thats where I am comming from.

According to what I read… tm doubled back to confront… because he did confront and started attacking.

Hindsight being 20/20 there is almost always a better way to have handled most given situations.

I hope you understand… this is the best way I can describe how I see it.
You are right and I am sorry if i attacked you personally. But please tell me what give Z the right to stalk an confront anyone? He is not law enforcement.
 
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