Open Thread on Zimmerman Verdict

[livingwordunity]

Yes indeed. I* too* am very concerned regarding the horrific and* socially sanctioned racism that is now being practiced against Caucasians in the Public Media, by the New Black Panther Party and by the race baiters of the* Democrat** Party.

It is now undeniable that Caucasians, especially male Caucasians, are the target of the Democrat led Liberal Media Machine, IMHO.

Democrats used to have the KKK, and now they have the Black Panthers. I don’t see a difference.

 

[Tomdstone]

Yes indeed. I* too* am very concerned regarding the horrific and* socially sanctioned racism that is now being practiced against Caucasians in the Public Media, by the New Black Panther Party and by the race baiters of the* Democrat** Party.

It is now undeniable that Caucasians, especially male Caucasians, are the target of the Democrat led Liberal Media Machine, IMHO.

Does that mean that Chris Matthews is targeting himself?

 

[Tucker_R]

IMO yes… why ? Because he has apologized for all Whites on on of his shows… it was on drudge… he doesn’t have the right to apologize for me… I did nothing wrong.

Does that mean that Chris Matthews is targeting himself?

 

[Jeanne_S]

Very well said.

Cha Ching!

 

[7_Sorrows]

Police say George Zimmerman helped rescue a family trapped in an overturned vehicle off a Florida highway last week, Zimmerman’s first known public sighting since his acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19618495-zimmerman-emerges-to-help-family-escape-overturned-car-in-sanford-fla?lite

I am glad the Trayvon incident has not scared or deterred Zimmerman from doing the right thing.

I agree. you make a very good point.

 

[seekerz]

These are some of the pictures of Trayvon (to me it looks like when he was 12) that the media showed to the public from the beginning of this:

http://localtvwtvr.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/trayvon.jpg?w=302

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120327085750-trayvon-martin-cold-cap-story-top.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120621010500-trayvon-and-father-story-top.jpg

Here are photos from TM’s cell phone that the jury wasn’t allowed to see during the case:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130523170843-04-trayvon-0523-story-top.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130523170749-03-trayvon-0523-horizontal-gallery.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130523170103-01-trayvon-0523-horizontal-gallery.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130523170713-02-trayvon-0523-horizontal-gallery.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130523170951-06-trayvon-0523-horizontal-gallery.jpg

Which is the real Trayvon Martin? Was he just going through a “bad boy” phase? Either way, it’s a tragedy that his life came to an end so early in his life. May he rest in peace.

Full-blooded American kid, if those are indeed his photos: loves his Second Amendment rights (resembles a pic some proud NRA member once posted of his daughter holding her gun) and experiments with weed…Presidential material if he’d lived, I’d say - and not necessarily 'cause of Obama either. Next?

 

[seekerz]

I agree. you make a very good point.

Why should he be scared? Was he armed and following a “suspect” he had branded in his head? That’s like saying I’m glad Dad wasn’t afraid to walk out the door to go to work today because the way the cops dragged him through the door last night on suspicion of domestic disturbance, was enough to scar him for life…

 

[maryjk]

Full-blooded American kid, if those are indeed his photos: loves his Second Amendment rights (resembles a pic some proud NRA member once posted of his daughter holding her gun) and experiments with weed…Presidential material if he’d lived, I’d say - and not necessarily 'cause of Obama either. Next?

That would be fine if it were his father’s gun and if his father was there when the picture was taken. But of course if a parent was there, Martin would have known that he shouldn’t have had his finger on the trigger.

The weed. Yep, Democratic party presidential material. But, he is underage. I seem to remember some emphasized his age and being “a child.” Well, a child shouldn’t be smoking anything, let alone something illegal.

 

[SwizzleStick]

Full-blooded American kid, if those are indeed his photos: loves his Second Amendment rights (resembles a pic some proud NRA member once posted of his daughter holding her gun) and experiments with weed…

You diminish the negatives of Martin’s behavior indicating drug use and possession of a handgun as a minor…

Why should he be scared? …

while also diminishing the positives of Zimmerman’s behavior in pulling people to safety from a burning vehicle, though to do so he had to break from cover, knowing full well his life has been threatened and is in danger.

 

[SwizzleStick]

I posted these excerpts and links on the other Zimmerman thread, so I’ll post them here too, one each post:

George Zimmerman grabs fire extinguisher, pulls family from overturned SUV

“What if George hadn’t gotten out of his truck?”

That’s the question Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for George Zimmerman, posed to The Daily Caller after news broke Monday that Zimmerman helped rescue a family of four from an overturned car.

“That’s the kind of guy George is,” Vincent said during a phone interview with TheDC."…

Blue excerpt from: dailycaller.com/2013/07/22/george-zimmerman-grabs-fire-extinguisher-pulls-family-from-overturned-suv/

 

[SwizzleStick]

Another:

"George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today. "…

Source link: abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/storynew?id=19735432

 

[SwizzleStick]

And another.

Good thing that Zimmerman decided to get out of his truck this time. Considering past events, it would have been understandable if he had decided to just keep on driving.

"Zimmerman emerges to help family escape overturned car in Sanford, Fla.

Police say George Zimmerman helped rescue a family trapped in an overturned vehicle off a Florida highway last week, Zimmerman’s first known public sighting since his acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin."…

Blue excerpt from: usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19618495-zimmerman-emerges-to-help-family-escape-overturned-car-in-sanford-fla?lite

 

[BroomWagon]

That would be fine if it were his father’s gun and if his father was there when the picture was taken. But of course if a parent was there, Martin would have known that he shouldn’t have had his finger on the trigger.

The weed. Yep, Democratic party presidential material. But, he is underage. I seem to remember some emphasized his age and being “a child.” Well, a child shouldn’t be smoking anything, let alone something illegal.

Mr Bush has spoken frequently about a drink problem in his youth, which ended with an apparent religious awakening at the age of 40, but he has never admitted taking illegal drugs.

On the tape, however, the future president discusses his refusal to answer questions about whether he took marijuana.

“I wouldn’t answer the marijuana question,” he says.

“You know why? 'Cause I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried.”

He feared that any such admission might affect his standing if he won the presidency.

“You gotta understand, I want to be president, I want to lead,” he tells Mr Wead.

“Do you want your little kid to say ‘Hey daddy, President Bush tried marijuana, I think I will’?”

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4282799.stm

 

[maryjk]

…

Hmm.

Reagan. No
Clinton. Yes, but didn’t “inhale.” , of course that doesn’t include his cocaine use
Bush, Sr. no
Bush Jr, possibly since he won’t say
Obama, admits to be headed toward being a junkie.

So, yes, I will still say that drug use is more toward being a Democratic party candidate.

Regardless, using illegal drugs isn’t common place. The fact that some people think it is, tells more about them and their friends than it does about me.

 

[BroomWagon]

Hmm.

Reagan. No
Clinton. Yes, but didn’t “inhale.” , of course that doesn’t include his cocaine use
Bush, Sr. no
Bush Jr, possibly since he won’t say
Obama, admits to be headed toward being a junkie.

So, yes, I will still say that drug use is more toward being a Democratic party candidate.

Regardless, using illegal drugs isn’t common place. The fact that some people think it is, tells more about them and their friends than it does about me.

What is your proof “using illegal drugs isn’t common place.” I don’t use them but it looks like 2 states have legalized marijuana.

The fact that some people think it is, tells more about them and their friends than it does about me.

Can you back up the above statement? Or is it just “because I say so”.

What does it tell you?? Are you accusing posters here of saying that and it tells more about them?? Or is that just a righteous response to feel superior to others? Or is your argument against the man meaning you are just using unproven arguments and statements against anyone who would suggest otherwise?? If you can’t answer this, I think we can understand what you mean.

If your only answer is “cause I say so” and people who do such a thing are bad “cause I say so”, I would question the validity of your argument. It’s like saying, I don’t have any rationale, so I will just make accusatory statements at others. I don’t have an argument, so I will “argue against the man”, I will make an “ad hominem” argument. This does not seem to be truthful charitable argument.

Avoid ad hominem posts. An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=508814

I also don’t know where one asserted “drug use is common place” but for the record, per Obama, Bush, Clinton, that would seem to point to 3 straight presidents having smoked marijuana. So basically, your argument seems to say those born before 1929 have not smoked marijuana and as a matter of fact, we may not know for certain about Bush Sr. or Reagan. We assume.

 

[maryjk]

I also don’t know where one asserted “drug use is common place” but for the record, per Obama, Bush, Clinton, that would seem to point to 3 straight presidents having smoked marijuana. So basically, your argument seems to say those born before 1929 have not smoked marijuana and as a matter of fact, we may not know for certain about Bush Sr. or Reagan. We assume.

Drugs? Seriously? Raise your forum hand if you have sat down three Thanksgivings in a row without ANYONE at your table ever having smoked some weed at least once in their youth or later!..Where or where, is the head shaking in disbelief smiley?

Seems commonplace for seekerz, doesn’t it? Considering she doesn’t seem to think most people can sit down for Thanksgiving without sitting with someone that has “smoked some weed.” Maybe I took it wrong. But really, how else could you take it?

 

[Nimzovik]

No drugs in my household. I can guarantee that one.

 

[Elizabeth502]

Somehow I knew this thread would eventually descend into the supposed glories and harmlessness of smoking pot.

Yeah.

Second Amendment Redux Right to Bear Marijuana. Let’s hear it for the virtues of mainstreaming mind-altering drugs. Americans aren’t numbed enough.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Yes we are doing splendid. You can have sex with a horse in 23 states and smoke pot in two.

No problems though.

 

[Nimzovik]

It is also the result of the machinations of adversarial countries that is degrading our moral values via pumping funds into our Media for purposes of making us weak. It is working methinks. All the gold we gave for oil is coming back at us in the form of terrorists, spies and social engineers, for the most part disguised as Democrats I dare say, IMHO.