My mother thinks I am an angel too.
I humbly submit neither is the case.
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I humbly submit neither is the case.
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Faith1960
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Lol.My mother thinks I am an angel too.
I humbly submit neither is the case.
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St_Francis
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According to Martin’s tweets to his friends, she kicked him out to go live with his dad.According to his mother Trayvon was “an angel.”
However, FWIW, his parents may not have known everything he was up to (altho as a parent I would have wondered where he got the money for the gold edges around his teeth! Hard enough to afford regular dental work…) Since the policy of the school police was to report the perpetrators of so many incidents as unknown so as to reduce the number of incidents attributed to blacks, Martin’s parents may not have been informed of his doing anything more than writing graffiti.
I knew someone who moved and enrolled her son in the high school. They did not notify her for 6 weeks that he wasn’t attending school!!! They wanted to try to handle it themselves…
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Faith1960
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I read that someone already told you that this wasn’t an emergency call. The operator also didn’t order Zimmerman back to his car. All he said was “we don’t need you to do that” when Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon.But 911 operator said stay in the car.
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MaryT777
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TM’s prior bad acts were not allowed by the judge were they? They are not pertinent to the case.
I wouldn’t want every wrong thing everyone has done be public knowledge because they were killed. Z was no “angel” either.
I wouldn’t want every wrong thing everyone has done be public knowledge because they were killed. Z was no “angel” either.
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St_Francis
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Zimmerman lived in a neighborhood plagued by burglaries; he had to comfort a neighbor after she had to hide in her closet with her children because 3 burglars came into her house.These punks? That’s bad enough to me anyway. Gee. Suspects, punks, Good grief.
Sorry, some people *are *punks. They do bad things to other people.
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coachkfan1
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Yep. And George Zimmerman knows punks when he sees them.Zimmerman lived in a neighborhood plagued by burglaries; he had to comfort a neighbor after she had to hide in her closet with her children because 3 burglars came into her house.
Sorry, some people *are *punks. They do bad things to other people.
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St_Francis
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The reason some of the information about Martin’s past was not allowed into the trial was that the prosecutor did not turn over that evidence until just a few days before the trial. As a result, the defense was unable to collect evidence that these were written by Martin, and so the judge would not allow that info in.TM’s prior bad acts were not allowed by the judge were they? They are not pertinent to the case.
I wouldn’t want every wrong thing everyone has done be public knowledge because they were killed. Z was no “angel” either.
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MaryT777
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911 operators answer both lines; emergency and non emergency thus the comment.I read that someone already told you that this wasn’t an emergency call. The operator also didn’t order Zimmerman back to his car. All he said was “we don’t need you to do that” when Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon.
The operator said they can’t order you to do anything. They suggest which means they do believe you should not follow someone thus the way the comment was worded…
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MaryT777
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Later it was considered not pertinent.The reason some of the information about Martin’s past was not allowed into the trial was that the prosecutor did not turn over that evidence until just a few days before the trial. As a result, the defense was unable to collect evidence that these were written by Martin, and so the judge would not allow that info in.
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St_Francis
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Yeah, when he sees someone apparently looking into people’s windows in a neighborhood plagued by burglaries, he becomes suspicious.Yep. And George Zimmerman knows punks when he sees them.
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Cider
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If those documents are legit and the story true, it’s pretty interesting. Especially about the PD being awarded for reducing delinquency, when it appears it was just as a result of not reporting crime.
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styrgwillidar
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That is correct. The Judge ruled his prior acts could not be brought up by the defense. However, she said the issue could be revisited during the trail. Basically, it seemed if the prosecution brought up a bunch of character witnesses for Martin, she would have revisited the prior acts issue as a rebuttal.TM’s prior bad acts were not allowed by the judge were they? They are not pertinent to the case.
I wouldn’t want every wrong thing everyone has done be public knowledge because they were killed. Z was no “angel” either.
Now, I have read a lot of lawyers arguing the pros and cons of whether it was pertinent to the likelihood of who started the fight. Defense managed without it.
None of us are angels. None of us are completely evil.
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Dawnia
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It was kept out because the info couldn’t be authenticated. Not that it wasn’t pertinent.Later it was considered not pertinent.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m talking about the info from the phone that was withheld by the State until the IT guy tattled on them.
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LisaA
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Because as you know ONLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACISTS! Think I made this up? Comes from the mouth of our Attorney General and in not so many words from POTUS, Sharpton, and Jackson along with the howling harpies in the House who claimed that GZ “hunted Trayvon down lahhhhk a DOOOOOWWWGGGG!”Why do people think its offensive at best, racist at it’s worst to use the “n” word but the black community can say “cracker” till the cows come home and nobody calls them on it?
Further not only can whites be called “crazy a** crackah” according to the Prosecution’s witness, it’s not racist. Nor are such terms as honkey, or whitey or trailer trash. Remember ONLY WHITES ARE RACIST.
Further blacks may use the N word with impunity. Heck didn’t Trayon call GZ a N*****? They call their women “hoes” and “b*tches…” but that’s not mysogynist.
You see for the Left, hyporcrisy is raised to an art form. It’s fine for thee but no for me!
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Cider
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Did you not watch the trial? Where did you get the idea that Z used the N word? That is what I want to know? You keep implying he did, when the only evidence presented at the trial of the N word being used was by Martin, that was testified by the girl her was on the phone with, you know the prosecutions star witness and Martin’s friend.What did he say?
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Faith1960
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It irks me when I hear people on tv and read things on the Internet trying to lay all the blame on Zimmerman, saying “if he’d just stayed in his car this never would’ve happened,” Ugh, if Trayvon had never gotten himself in so much trouble he wouldnt have been in Sanford on suspension and this tragedy never would’ve happened.According to Martin’s tweets to his friends, she kicked him out to go live with his dad.
However, FWIW, his parents may not have known everything he was up to (altho as a parent I would have wondered where he got the money for the gold edges around his teeth! Hard enough to afford regular dental work…) Since the policy of the school police was to report the perpetrators of so many incidents as unknown so as to reduce the number of incidents attributed to blacks, Martin’s parents may not have been informed of his doing anything more than writing graffiti.
I knew someone who moved and enrolled her son in the high school. They did not notify her for 6 weeks that he wasn’t attending school!!! They wanted to try to handle it themselves…
If he hadn’t been skulking around the neighborhood, peeking into windows (maybe looking for more jewelry to steal) this never would have happened.
As far all the people saying “he was just a boy” well that boy was a football player, taller, and in much better shape to beat up an older, out of shape man who was described as “unathletic” during the trial.
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styrgwillidar
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The authentication related to just Martin’s cell phone texts, some images. Information from other sources - i.e. social media, school records etc. were ruled on before the trial, again prohibiting defense from raising but, allowing for it to be revisited as trial unfolded.It was kept out because the info couldn’t be authenticated. Not that it wasn’t pertinent.
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Tucker_R
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I think he’s proven that.
Yep. And George Zimmerman knows punks when he sees them.
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Dawnia
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I realized that I wasn’t clear until after I wrote the comment. I did go back and clarify.The authentication related to just Martin’s cell phone texts, some images. Information from other sources - i.e. social media, school records etc. were ruled on before the trial, again prohibiting defense from raising but, allowing for it to be revisited as trial unfolded.
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