Here, I’ll simplify Bob’s world view for you: Guns are evil, and the person with a gun is also evil, and a state is evil for letting people defend themselves with a gun. An exception may be made for the police, but I’m not sure what’s magical about them such that they can or should be trusted with guns while the rest of us can’t be.
Actually, I’d argue that GZ’s lack of legal savvy or training reveals itself in his willingness to give multiple police statements outside of the presence of counsel. That is a criminal defense attorney 101 no-no. No statement made to police can ever be used as exculpatory evidence at trial by the defense - EVER, and ANYTHING you say in it will be used against you. There is literally no possible benefit to talking with them!
I believe so also.
Not “everyone” but there is very good percentage who do project an image and intentionally and they are of all race. And there are many who “play” with this image. Certainly its an issue we should all acknowledge?
Here, I’ll simplify Bob’s world view for you: Guns are evil, and the person with a gun is also evil, and a state is evil for letting people defend themselves with a gun. An exception may be made for the police, but I’m not sure what’s magical about them such that they can or should be trusted with guns while the rest of us can’t be.
perfect summation Counselor! The defense never rests on CAF however.I have addressed all the facts.
I would actually disagree. I believe GZ’s knowledge of self defense laws in the class he Aced helped him tremendously. The primary witness was dead and he knew it.
It wasn’t even Trayvon’s house. And there is no indication that GZ ever made it up to TM’s dad’s girlfriend’s house. Why on earth would the encounter have been where it was if GZ had made it up there? The best indication is that TM went up there and decided to turn around to confront GZ for whatever reason.
To me this is akin to blaming a rape victim for the rape because they were dressed provocatively.
because hes a thug and thats what thugs do
Yeah, I don’t think you understand. In criminal cases, the rules of evidence preclude any police statement from being introduced as exculpatory evidence by the defense. There is NO POSSIBLE BENEFIT to giving a police statement if you’re a suspect in a crime. Absolutely none. It’s legally impermissible. You CANNOT talk the police or detective out of charging you with a crime no matter what you say. They are allowed to say ANYTHING TO YOU and tell you ANY lie and any response they get from you WILL be used against you and cannot be used on your behalf in ANY legal context. Period. End of story. I cannot stress to you how much of a rookie error it is to give statements about a crime you may be implicated in to police outside the presence of counsel.
Gosh! You know this after only five days.
Well the flip side is why would Z get out of his car if he thought TM was a ‘suspect’ and a punk on drugs? Why follow someone like that or get out of your car?It wasn’t even Trayvon’s house. And there is no indication that GZ ever made it up to TM’s dad’s girlfriend’s house. Why on earth would the encounter have been where it was if GZ had made it up there? The best indication is that TM went up there and decided to turn around to confront GZ for whatever reason.
And if you are thinking you’re being stalked by someone that scares you or you think is potentially violent, why would you let yourself get within arm’s length of that person?
What makes you accuse him of being a thug? It could just as easily be that GZ was acting as a gunslinging vigilante.because hes a thug and thats what thugs do
No substantial testimony DOES exist. You just keep ignoring it. ZImmerman was NO LONGER FOLLOWING MARTIN…why can’t you just accept reality? All of the evidence, including contemporaneous evidence indicates Martin had fled the initial contact.
Please post facts, not made up stories. The facts have been laid out repeatedly. You ignore them.
Thugs get suspended from school.