Origins of slavery in the US

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I hope there might be some folks on here that have studied colonial American and US history more than I have. There is a question that is bothering me. How did the American colonies develop such a brutal system of slavery? How did it change from the 1600s to the 1800s? I just read an autobiography of a slave woman who escaped to the North in the 1840s. She describes a visit to England and her surprise at the civility in which she was treated in contrast to the US (even in the Northern states).

My own ancestors were among the earliest slaves in the colonies. Of course, the predominately English settlers were accustomed to having servants and so when Cromwell rounded up 50,000 Irish Catholics and sent them on slave ships to be sold on the block in Williamsburg, (he also had another group of Irish Catholics sent to Barbados) they were eagerly purchased. The settlers pressed them into roles that would have been comparable to the ones they were forced into in England. This was before the African slave trade really began, as I understand it. Of course, these white slaves had little trouble assimilating into society once they fell out of favor and either purchased their freedom or were released due to such low ‘value’ compared to the newly arriving slaves from Africa.

Overall, it sounds as if these white slaves were treated similarly to the servants in England. Perhaps they did more outside work, I don’t know, but the contemporary complaints revolve around their refusal to work on Sunday and their adherence to their religion (Catholicism). They were also criticized for drinking.

How did it happen, then, that when the first slave ships arrived from Africa, the colonists somehow decided that these people could be treated much worse? How did they spiral into the thought process that degraded these people and, essentially, descend into the h-ll that became slavery in the early 1800s? Was it a particular generation that reacted to the arrival of Dutch ships selling these very different looking human beings? Was it the sales pitch made by the sellers? Was it a slow process of degradation (I think this is true if you look at the treatment before the cotton gin and after the invention of the cotton gin). This uniquely American tragedy played out over time and you can see that one justification led to the next, which led to the next, etc… Each time a new atrocity occurred, it was as if a little bit of time allowed it to become accepted and the downward spiral continued.

I see parallels of this in modern day downward spirals of morals and justice. Perhaps we could learn a lot from this if we studied the history slavery further.
 
Catholic Farmer? Who was Anthony Johnson? Black on black crime is rarely looked at in the Main Stream Media and many children aren’t taught these facts.
 
I think that part of it might be that an indentured servant was going to eventually be your neighbor instead of your servant, while a slave was forever.

Also, the general mores about what was an acceptable way to deal with ‘employees’ was different than it is now.

Here is an interesting article that discusses some of the history

pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html
 
I studied a bit of the history of slavery and was astounded to learn of the many American slave owners who were themselves Black former slaves…
 
I hope there might be some folks on here that have studied colonial American and US history more than I have. There is a question that is bothering me. How did the American colonies develop such a brutal system of slavery?
The earliest form of slavery in the Americas arrived with Christopher Columbus. The brutal treatment of the natives by the Columbus crew can be found easily enough. He even sent some of them back to Europe on a trans Atlantic voyage. Many of them died during the trip.
 
Indentured servants were different from the slave ships sent by Cromwell.

I don’t know anything about black slaves becoming slave owners, but surely you realize that was unusual. I’m asking about white owners of black slaves and how slavery became such a uniquely American tragedy. This topic is uncomfortable, but the parallels in modern society are important and it’s worth considering from the standpoint of how a culture falls into such a cesspool of injustice. What happened back then set us up for centuries of anguish between the races.
 
Catholic Farmer? Who was Anthony Johnson? .
A free black man that owned property in Virginia. Though it was decided that since he was a “negroe” that he was an alien and didn’t have the right to own property. The state of Virginia seized his land when he was acquiring new land in Maryland They also ruled that all people that were not Christians in their native countries would be slaves and were to be held as property.
 
Not all slaves were treated inhumanely. During Sherman’s March to the Sea, one of my ancestor’s plantation was burned. After the war, the slaves stuck around and even helped rebuild.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not proslavery, but not every slave was a whipping post.
 
There was also religious excuses, the Mark of Cain and, as the previous poster mentioned, they weren’t really Christians. Many also thought they were not fully human, only somewhat above animals.

Basically, it came down to Blacks were easily identifiable as different, therefore easier to treat differently than people that looked like oneself, easier to isolate.
 
Catholic Farmer, I am not sure why it was so brutal in US history.
What I do know know about slavery in the Caribbean, it was just as brutal but this was attributed to absenteeism. Often, there was an overseer and not necessarily the land-owner/slave-owner that was in charge. So a plantation owner living in England for eg. would not visit for years upon years (as long as the money was coming in). The overseer was less likely to treat the slaves (or even indentured workers) as well as the slave owner would.
Maybe there is some parallel to this in US history, that could probably explain why it was so brutal? (I am not as familiar with history of slavery in the US).
 
Well in general slavery is and was about greed. Not only where the Black enslaved, but so where the Irish, Chinese, and frankly women. And let’s not forget the American Indians being out-right slaughtered.

If you want to get a good handle on the cause of slavery look at who stood to profit from this practice at that time…here and abroad. Probably only a very few in reality, but they had to be in positions of power and wealth to start with.

Now we have human trafficking for sex. It seems to never end.
 
Something to ponder: George Washington had slaves. So it is no wonder it flourished here.
 
I hope there might be some folks on here that have studied colonial American and US history more than I have. There is a question that is bothering me. How did the American colonies develop such a brutal system of slavery?
Hey Farmer, this is my first post here! Anyway, your questions are quite dynamic and I don’t know that there are any simple answers to them. I have been reading Thomas Keneally’s The Great Shame about the forced migration of mostly Catholic Irish in the 1800s. We tend to think of those who fled during the bad years of famine in Western and Southern Ireland, but as you likely know, many thousands were sent as prisoners to Van Dieman’s Land in present day Australia for various penal infractions, some serious, some ridiculously inhumane. Those who survived the passage were essentially indefinitely indentured and were forbidden from returning to the Emerald Isle. Husband said goodbye to wives, children lost mothers. It was one of the worst tragedies in recent history. That said, my understanding of the colonial slave trade, as it was with Portuguese, Spaniards, Dutch and English and eventually Americans, was that these governments tapped into a vary vibrant - if you can call it that - slave trade that had existed in West Africa for centuries and was brought upon by Arab Muslim conquerers. Even in the 1870’s King Leopold of Belgium was able to find a culture quite familiar with slavery in the Belgian Congo. When you look at the march of human history, you see that the abolition of slavery is quite a new thing. After all, the Jews were enslaved by the Pharaoh. Several years ago my wife and I visited the Burren in Western Ireland. Many of the structures still standing were built in pre-Christian Ireland by slave labor. Heck, even Saint Patrick was taken as a slave from England, I guess. Sadly, slavery exists in some areas of the world, although it is less recognizable. Communist North Korea is perhaps the biggest slave holding nation with as many as 500,000 people interned in labor camps. The former Soviet Union, under Josef Stalin essentially ran a Gulag system to extract as much labor from prisoners, working them to death. And let’s not forget the “guest workers” Albert Speer procured for the German War effort in World War II. Many slavs and other undesirables were reduced to nothing and never returned. Anyway, that’s sorta my easy answer to your question. I have a book on the slave trade I should read.
 
Catholic Farmer - good question. I am from South Carolina and the answer to your question is quite simple - racism. Unlike in other areas of the Americas the US was unique because it was mostly Protestant, which for the most part prohibited if not frowned on intermarry because of the beliefs that blacks were less than human. In fact this attitude remains to this day in the US, especially the Southeastern US and can easily be witnessed by the fact that there are many segregated Protestant churches in the South, if not the outright majority.

On the other hand since the Latin part of America was mostly Catholic there was no prohibition against intermarriage and thus there was little dehumanization due to racism of the Africans because the majority of the slave owners would have been mulatto. This is not to say there isn’t racism in Latin America, there is, but is definitely less in it’s degree of racism overall.
 
I studied a bit of the history of slavery and was astounded to learn of the many American slave owners who were themselves Black former slaves…
👍 The history of slavery in America is far more complex than the simple paradigm of evil white guys and innocent black victims. While race was a major factor, it was not the only factor.
 
It has to do it the ideology which flourished after the Revolution and with the intensification of Bible - centrist that led white Americans to believe that they had been uniquely assigned the task of spreading true Bible religion throughout the world, which subjugation to England had made impossible. Under this belief, England had vanquished papistry but had not achieved the true freedom of the Gospel. As part of the predestination of the US to this task, it followed that slavery was in reality God’s gift: the African slave must have been part of this special providence to assist the new chosen nation. Slaves who sought freedom or mitigation must be rebels against the status that God had created them for. Because God Himself had given the Anglo-Saxon masters the power, it followed that they were using it for the slaves’ good; and to refuse such a good must show that there was a particular re probation in the soul of the one resisting. Not to submit eagerly and at all times wad a rejection of the goodness of the master and of The Master. Such wickedness could only be cured by high-minded severity. This of course spawned other rationalizations - since slaves were fitted for menial work, they felt pain less keenly, etc. The brutality in short was born of a deformed idealism itself bred from a traditionless reading of Scripture & history.
 
Indentured servants were different from the slave ships sent by Cromwell.

I don’t know anything about black slaves becoming slave owners, but surely you realize that was unusual. I’m asking about white owners of black slaves and how slavery became such a uniquely American tragedy. This topic is uncomfortable, but the parallels in modern society are important and it’s worth considering from the standpoint of how a culture falls into such a cesspool of injustice. What happened back then set us up for centuries of anguish between the races.
Almost 30 million slaves are in the world today. Your posit “a uniquely American tragedy” is way off the mark. Stop making it “bad” white Americans as the root for a view (progressive ideology) that capitalism and America must be lessened. I suspect the topic points to a redistribution for the errors of the past. If that is an intent, then to white and black northerners, have “to pay a fair share”.

How does it parallels modern society? Please elaborate, because I see no parallel and would like to see another POV. The Great Society and seeded by a New Deal created generations of mostly black raced people (just reporting facts based upon statistics) who are well below the “defined” poverty line.
 
Indentured servants were different from the slave ships sent by Cromwell.

I don’t know anything about black slaves becoming slave owners, but surely you realize that was unusual. I’m asking about white owners of black slaves and how slavery became such a uniquely American tragedy. This topic is uncomfortable, but the parallels in modern society are important and it’s worth considering from the standpoint of how a culture falls into such a cesspool of injustice. What happened back then set us up for centuries of anguish between the races.
When considering the history of slavery in America it is important to note that the United States was the only country in the history of the world to fight a war to end slavery. Hundreds of thousands of white men died for that cause including my ancestors from New York.

To this date, no black person has ever thanked me. But, by the tone of your statements, I get the feeling I am somehow to blame for slavery. :confused:
 
…]Hundreds of thousands of white men died for that cause including my ancestors from New York.

To this date, no black person has ever thanked me. But, by the tone of your statements, I get the feeling I am somehow to blame for slavery. :confused:
Don’t take it too personal. I don’t get the impression you are being blamed.
 
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