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Nor have I. I was fully chrismated as part of the baptismal rite of the Coptic Orthodox Church, which includes both baptism (by triple immersion) and chrismation (the two are not separated as they are in the Latin Church).
 
Marybeloved said:
Because I don’t think I’d be obligated, say the church didn’t forbid me (remember those hypothesis brackets are up lest a fourth person misses it again), to let them know I was Catholic if I had necessity and it was not regular.
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If everyone else interpretes this as deception, don’t you think that it might possibly be deceptive?
 
TEPO said:
Oh don’t let them run you off like that Mary. They’re all just very sensitive people, who have nothing better to do to drop a few tears over a hypothetical situation.

Don’t let anyone make you feel like you’ve done anything wrong here because you havent.
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Wow, this is quite disrespectful. I don’t think anyone has shed any tears over this. It is however a very serious manner.

Why am I not surprised that someone who believes it is alright to engage in deception to be part of Communion would have so little respect for the people who disagree with them.
 
Peter_J said:
Thanks. (Unless you’re referring to Cavaradossi’s joke.)
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😃 it was two in a row…:D. I love it! But that clip was so accurate that it brought tears to my eyes it was so funny… Thanks for the good humor, this thread needed it.😃
 
Nine_Two said:
Wow, this is quite disrespectful. I don’t think anyone has shed any tears over this. It is however a very serious manner.

Why am I not surprised that someone who believes it is alright to engage in deception to be part of Communion would have so little respect for the people who disagree with them.
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Yes, of course -I’ve engaged in deception… Right.

So now I’ve sinned twice on this thread because I’m also disrespectful… Lovely. 🤷
 
dzheremi said:
:rolleyes:
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The second quote was an honest reflection of how I felt. I’m sure I’m not the only one to have felt that way. I don’t feel that way anymore though thanks to some of the kind posts by other Orthodox posters here.
 
That’s fine. I’m just saying, calling other people “very sensitive” over this matter after having expressed your own feelings of personal hurt is a little silly.
 
Nine_Two said:
If everyone else interpretes this as deception, don’t you think that it might possibly be deceptive?
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You honestly need to let this go, I don’t agree that it is. I can see it through the authority of a Bishop in his churches and obedience in that regard even if the Bishop is not in the Catholic communion. So it would be a matter of disobedience and not deception, not to me. The effect would be the same, not to commune, so let it be. I just don’t see it the way you (all of you) do. But why do I have to?
 
Marybeloved said:
You honestly need to let this go, I don’t agree that it is. I can see it through the authority of a Bishop in his churches and obedience in that regard even if the Bishop is not in the Catholic communion. So it would be a matter of disobedience and not deception, not to me. The effect would be the same, not to commune, so let it be. I just don’t see it the way you (all of you) do. But why do I have to?
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You most definitely don’t have to, because how any particular individual sees communion is not what matters in the first place. The canons of the respective church you intend to commune in (whether Catholic or Orthodox) are what matters. Catholics in this thread have reminded that, as per RC guidelines, such behavior is not to be engaged in. Orthodox have done the same. The matter is closed; no personal opinions, viewpoints, or feelings are needed or relevant.
 
dzheremi said:
That’s fine. I’m just saying, calling other people “very sensitive” over this matter after having expressed your own feelings of personal hurt is a little silly.
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Perhaps… But actually, i was mostly referring to the Catholics here, who were the ones making the biggest fuss of all. Although sometimes ex-Catholics can be just as bad.
 
I don’t blame them, though (the Catholics who are vocal about how bad this hypothetical is). It reflects poorly on their church when other members of it talk, even hypothetically, of flagrantly disrespecting the rules of other churches.
 
dzheremi said:
You most definitely don’t have to, because how any particular individual sees communion is not what matters in the first place. The canons of the respective church you intend to commune in (whether Catholic or Orthodox) are what matters. Catholics in this thread have reminded that, as per RC guidelines, such behavior is not to be engaged in. Orthodox have done the same. The matter is closed; no personal opinions, viewpoints, or feelings are needed or relevant.
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My bad, I didn’t realize that the canons already settled the question of whether approaching would be disobedience or deception.
 
dzheremi said:
I don’t blame them, though (the Catholics who are vocal about how bad this hypothetical is). It reflects poorly on their church when other members of it talk, even hypothetically, of flagrantly disrespecting the rules of other churches.
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I’m less interested in our reflection as Catholics than I am in building stronger faith in other Catholics. Which I believe the example of pandering to other faiths is counter-productive. If Marybeloved or myself choose to propose a hypothetical situation to the Orthodox, Catholics need to enguage these proposals with caution… For the sake of our own unity within the Roman Church.
 
Marybeloved said:
My bad, I didn’t realize that the canons already settled the question of whether approaching would be disobedience or deception.
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Again, that’s not what matters. What you’d call it doesn’t matter at all. The point is, you are not allowed. Call it whatever you want; it doesn’t change reality.
 
TEPO said:
I’m less interested in our reflection as Catholics than I am in building stronger faith in other Catholics. Which I believe the example of pandering to other faiths is counter-productive. If Marybeloved or myself choose to propose a hypothetical situation to the Orthodox, Catholics need to enguage these proposals with caution… For the sake of our own unity within the Roman Church.
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I’m not sure what this means. Are you saying that advising Catholics who are guests at Orthodox churches to respect the rules of those churches is “pandering to other faiths”? Cos I’m pretty sure the Vatican does that… :hmmm:
 
We need to be careful here. There is no shame in embracing ones faith as superior.
 
dzheremi said:
Again, that’s not what matters. What you’d call it doesn’t matter at all. The point is, you are not allowed. Call it whatever you want; it doesn’t change reality.
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That’s what I just said to Nine Two above, the effect is the same either way. So why are you still instisting on picking a fight over it? What argument do you think you’re having? I think you’re about three pages late.
 
That’s what I just said to Nine Two above, the effect is the same either way so its pointless insisting on the deception. So why are you still instisting on picking a fight over it? What argument do you think you’re having? I think you’re about three pages late.
 
dzheremi said:
I’m not sure what this means. Are you saying that advising Catholics who are guests at Orthodox churches to respect the rules of those churches is “pandering to other faiths”? Cos I’m pretty sure the Vatican does that… :hmmm:
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No, I’m talking about Catholics condemning other Catholics instead of embracing them with compassion. For the sake of Catholic unity.
 
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