Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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gilliam said:
WASHINGTON—
A U.S. official says Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea.

After Bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world’s most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea.

The official, who spoke Monday on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security matters, did not immediately say where that occurred.

latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-bin-laden-buried-20110501,0,7069834.story?track=rss

I guess we will find out if this in fact happened. If so, that pretty much eliminates a problem of a shrine being built for him.
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Or any proof that it happened.

But yeah cool. I’m not saying anything because I’m not psycho…I’ll just sit here … with my thoughts.

I’m still not voting for that dude. Ever again.
 
this is fishy, i hope they took dna to be independently verified against his relatives.

the burial at see sounds weird cause i guess they dont want his followers digging him up and showing that it isnt him.

too many crazy conclusions to draw without more info though.

the death picture thats been circulating has shown to be a fake too.
 
Announcing in the same breath that he’s been killed and buried ASAP is leaving the floodgate wide open for the conspiracy theories. Sigh.
 
I certainly hope the the president is reviewing our “friendship” with Pakistan today.
 
iamrefreshed said:
I certainly hope the the president is reviewing our “friendship” with Pakistan today.
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In Pakistani papers before the announcement, this intriguing story turned up:
Chopper Crashes, Three Blasts Heard Near PMA Kakul
The most significant fact to emerge from bin Laden’s death so far is that he was not living in a smelly cave in the tribal badlands but in a mansion in the heart of the Pakistani establishment round the corner from the Military Academy on the Kakul Road.

Mr Sohaib Athar from Abbottabad:
I’m the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it…
nationalreview.com/corner/266174/early-report-mark-steyn
 
Charlotte408 said:
A U.S. official says Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea.
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  1. It is obligatory to bury a dead body in the earth in such a way that its smell does not come out and the beasts of prey also do not take it out, and, in case there is a danger of such beasts taking it out, the grave should be made solid with bricks.
  2. If it is not possible to bury a dead body in the earth, it may be kept in a room or a coffin, instead of burying it.
  3. The dead body should be placed in the grave resting on its right side so that its face should be towards the Qibla
  4. If a person dies in a boat and there is no possibility of the decay of the dead body and there is also no hindrance in the way of its being kept in the boat, it should be kept in it and buried in the earth after reaching the land. Otherwise it should be bathed, embalmed, shrouded and prayers should be offered for it, and thereafter, on the basis of precaution, if it be possible, it should be covered with a mat and after tying the ends of the mat lowered into water. Furthermore, so far as possible, it should not be lowered into water at a place where the animals may eat it up at once.
  5. If it is feared that the enemy may dig the grave and exhume the dead body and amputate its ears or nose or other limbs, it should be lowered into water, if possible, as stated in the foregoing article.
  6. The expenses of lowering the dead body into water and of making its grave solid, if necessary, should be met from the real property of the dead body.
    From Islamic Laws of Ayatullah Khoei, Chapter 12. Also see the Islamic Laws according to the Fatawa of Ayatullah al Uzama Syed Ali al-Husaini Seestani
I am hardly an expert at Muslim jurisprudence, but it seems that it is only acceptable to bury a person at sea if he dies at sea and can’t be returned to land in time (623). The only exception to that is if there is a real and present danger that his body would be desecrated (not venerated, desecrated).

Of course, you realize that their treatment of the body will be perceived as a desecration by Muslims everywhere.
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Abyssinia said:
Exactly, which makes the point I was trying to make, that people should not be crediting Obama for the capture of Osama. If you want to thank anybody, thank the military that was in control and/or the elected civilian leader.
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Presidents get bashed a lot. No matter what they do, a lot of folks have something bad to say about them. That’s politics, right? I try to remember that every president honestly does his best in the job, even when I disagree with the decisions that are made.
 
LemonAndLime said:
Announcing in the same breath that he’s been killed and buried ASAP is leaving the floodgate wide open for the conspiracy theories. Sigh.
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Yes, my heart sank when I heard about the burial at sea. With no body to be confirmed by outsiders, al-Qaeda loyalists (as well as run of the mill conspiracy theorists) are likely to say that he is still alive… no doubt schmoozing with Elvis and Tupac at their secret hideaway.
 
iamrefreshed said:
I certainly hope so. I know of 3000 families that could not bury their loved ones.
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I do not think this attitude is Christ-like. I mean seriously. Should we not show thatwe are better than our enemies, instead of stooping to their level?
 
I thought Muslim custom was burn them and hang them from an overpass, or drag the body through the streets behind an angry mob.
 
Charlotte408 said:
I’ve heard two different stories from two different networks this morning.
  1. They dumped his body in the ocean very quickly, because it would have caused danger - people gathering trying to view the body, trying to find a country that would be willing to take it…etc…
or
  1. They gave him a sea burial as per Islamic tradition.
I have no idea which it is but my first thought was 'oh how convenient, no body and right after this Trump situation so if I even so much as bring up the notion wether or not it happened I’m going to look psycho’
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The Islamic tradition that was upheld is that he was buried within twenty-four hours. I don’t think they ever indicated that burial at sea was an Islamic tradition.
 
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