Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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All the reports I’m reading say that capture was never a consioderation of the actual mssion. It was considered but rejected. The plan was to kill OBL. He was apparently identified on the scene by his Yemini wife as well as by sophisticated face recognition software in real time. Additionally, DNA samples were taken and compared to sample taken from his sister who died of either brain cancer something like that in Boston a couple three years ago. Pretty gruesome. I’m curious why they didn’t attempt to capture him or at least claim that they tried but were forced to shoot him in the firefight. I’m also surprised that they were able to get test results so fast. He was buried at sea in accordance with Islamic traditions. This is according to reports from several news agencies.
What would we have done with him, if we captured him? Put him up for a prolonged trial, and then years of appeals on death row? This would have fed the flames of his supporters. The most expedient solution was his rapid demise. I think it was smart to dispose of the body according to Muslim tradition.
 
Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them, As I live, said the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked

Great conflict comes with this death. The vengeful American heart wants to rejoice, but the Catholic in me is filled with sorrow that a life has been taken and a soul will spend an eternity in the torments of hell.

I say this because we are taught that only God can create life. Even if Satan is able to steal that soul he doesn’t have the power to create a life. Every life, even those infected by evil, were created by God and in his image and only God has the right to take the life He created from us.

DO NOT get me wrong, I thank God that no more innocent lives will be taken at the hands of an evil man. My heart goes out to the families of Bin Laden’s victims, as they now have to relive the horror they have been made to suffer. My prayers and gratitude goes out to any member of any military that are laying down their lives to protect ours…

However celebrating the taking of any life created by God, no matter now good or evil, goes against everything we belive.
What you say is absolutely true and valid.
However, it is not the only perspective that is true and valid. Most people, imo, were not celebrating the stark death of a human, but what it represented – justice, accomplishment of a virtuous national goal, and the possibility of less death and suffering.
But it is still necessary for your comments to be expressed; thank you. This day – which I personally thought would never happen – has to be undertaken in the proper context.
 
What would we have done with him, if we captured him? Put him up for a prolonged trial, and then years of appeals on death row? This would have fed the flames of his supporters. The most expedient solution was his rapid demise. I think it was smart to dispose of the body according to Muslim tradition.
I agree.

Had he been buried somewhere it would have become a shrine.
 
I agree.

Had he been buried somewhere it would have become a shrine.
I have wondered for years if the reason we could never get him was the Bush family’s close relationship with the Saudi royals, and therefore by proxy at least with the Bin Laden family. Maybe this was something that only a new president could do.
 
Didn’t the Navy Seals give the people in the compound the chance to surrender?
 
All the reports I’m reading say that capture was never a consioderation of the actual mssion. It was considered but rejected. The plan was to kill OBL. He was apparently identified on the scene by his Yemini wife as well as by sophisticated face recognition software in real time. Additionally, DNA samples were taken and compared to sample taken from his sister who died of either brain cancer something like that in Boston a couple three years ago. Pretty gruesome. I’m curious why they didn’t attempt to capture him or at least claim that they tried but were forced to shoot him in the firefight. I’m also surprised that they were able to get test results so fast. He was buried at sea in accordance with Islamic traditions. This is according to reports from several news agencies.
Not sure if thats true, because it sounds like the Seals offered to allow him to surrender and he refused.

Granted, the end result would have been ths same either way.
 
Not sure if thats true, because it sounds like the Seals offered to allow him to surrender and he refused.

Granted, the end result would have been ths same either way.
I recall hearing the same thing.
 
I am getting a LOT of grief from friends and family because I am not posting “yay he’s dead” everywhere and I am making it known that I am praying for his soul… this is perfect. thank you
I can only hope that you have prayed for every soul that died at the hands of bin ladin by name as well. to not do that but to pray for Bin Ladin is one of the most unjust things one could do.

yay! he is dead!

I do not presume to know the state of his soul but I can tell you it isnt on earth anymore. Justice is served and that is something to celebrate.

I dont know what went through his head a nanosecond before that bullet, but this man spent a life rejecting Christ and killing innocents.
 
I read that Muslim scholars question sea burial.
Why do you think they didn’t keep BL body?
Now the skeptics will say it never happened, it was
just a ploy to get Obama reelected.
 
I never thought we were ever going to get that fiend. Good job, Mr. President!
 
Has any Catholic on this forum prayed for his soul? If not why?
I think lots of them have. I have not. I feel it hypocritical of me as I should have prayed for each of the war dead and each of the WTC victims BY NAME as they became known. but I was derailed by the riggors of each day, as the years wore on I just read news reports with a passing glance, I watched and participated as the wars became political fodder. I know that I have not prayed for the souls that died too early at the hands of evil. I have not devoted time and attention to them as I should have. I cannot honor thier memories now by praying for the man who stood against Christ until the end. I am glad he is dead and I really could not care what happens to his soul. Only God knows that and I cannot change the reality of where his mangled ugly soul is right now.
My prayers are for the victims, for the innocent and for the ones who never had a say in this cosmic battle. I cannot pray for him, I will not.
 
I think lots of them have. I have not. I feel it hypocritical of me as I should have prayed for each of the war dead and each of the WTC victims BY NAME as they became known. but I was derailed by the riggors of each day, as the years wore on I just read news reports with a passing glance, I watched and participated as the wars became political fodder. I know that I have not prayed for the souls that died too early at the hands of evil. I have not devoted time and attention to them as I should have. I cannot honor thier memories now by praying for the man who stood against Christ until the end. I am glad he is dead and I really could not care what happens to his soul. Only God knows that and I cannot change the reality of where his mangled ugly soul is right now.
My prayers are for the victims, for the innocent and for the ones who never had a say in this cosmic battle. I cannot pray for him, I will not.
What strange logic. You mean unless we pray individually for each of the million babes in the womb killed by abortion in the US each year then we cannot pray for even a single abortionist or pregnant couple considering abortion to have a change of heart? It would barely be possible for a person to offer prayers for a million individuals over the course of a year.

Does the ‘Our Father’ mention people to be prayed for by name? Of course not. And that’s probably deliberate, because God knows our limitations, and knows that there are only so many hours in the day that we can devote to thinking of all the people we should pray for (and we should pray for all) by name.

I say as long as you offer plenty of prayers for the victims of 9/11, as I’m sure you do, there’s nothing hypocritical or wrong about sparing a prayer or two for Osama’s soul. And if you don’t feel like praying for him that’s all the more reason that you should do so, and those prayers will be all the more pleasing to God.

It’s easy to pray for people we like and sympathise or empathise with. And as Our Lord said ‘do not the hypocrites do the same’?

The true test of a Christian is to pray for the unlovable, the unsympathetic, the heinous sinners, our enemies. As they are the ones who most need our prayers. Jesus could pray for those who were killing Him while they were in the very act of doing so - we should follow His example. Doesn’t mean we are called on to have warm fuzzy feelings towards them, but I’m sure He didn’t have warm fuzzy feelings towards His crucifiers either, and he nonetheless prayed for them.
 
God is smarter than us, he does not need us to pray for individuals by name in order to know exactly who we mean.

I will add that when I pray for all those who’ve died in violence, that Bin Laden is in there. I don’t feel the need to mention his name if the intent is there. I would rather mention specific names for those I know or have a special prayer for.
 
I see alot of back and forth on this thread. Yes, as Christians, we should not celebrate death. I was not out dancing in the streets last night. But I cannot lie- I said some pretty despicable things and celebrated at home last night. Un-Catholic? Yes, and I will have to examine my conscience and make a true confession for that. I will, one day, include the soul of bin Laden in my prayers. I will not do either of these things today. Today, I see a small clearing in a 10 year nightmare that began when my godmother was among those killed in the South Tower. Will this stop terrorism? No. Did Hitler’s death stop Nazism? No; in fact, it exists even to this day. But it is a huge victory.
My wife asked me last night if my godmother would have been happy with my choice of words in regards to bin Laden’s death. I responded that thanks to him, I would never agin know what would have made her happy. In time, I will be able to forgive and ask God’s forgiveness for how I’ve felt these last 15 hours. But not today-today I reflect on those that died because of him, and smile when I think of the fact that my children will now be able to grow up in a world where ‘Osama bin Laden’ is a name they read in the history books regarding a dark decade for America.
By the way, for those that do pray for bin Laden-I thank God for you all too. Everyone needs our prayers and I am thankful that you stand up and pray for him. I hope to join your ranks one day-please understand that today cannot be that day…
 
We should never let the fear of reprisal keep us from confronting Evil.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Edmond Burk
My comment was about sorrow and grief, but you are correct about confronting evil.
 
What strange logic. You mean unless we pray individually for each of the million babes in the womb killed by abortion in the US each year then we cannot pray for even a single abortionist or pregnant couple considering abortion to have a change of heart? It would barely be possible for a person to offer prayers for a million individuals over the course of a year.

Does the ‘Our Father’ mention people to be prayed for by name? Of course not. And that’s probably deliberate, because God knows our limitations, and knows that there are only so many hours in the day that we can devote to thinking of all the people we should pray for (and we should pray for all) by name.

I say as long as you offer plenty of prayers for the victims of 9/11, as I’m sure you do, there’s nothing hypocritical or wrong about sparing a prayer or two for Osama’s soul. And if you don’t feel like praying for him that’s all the more reason that you should do so, and those prayers will be all the more pleasing to God.

It’s easy to pray for people we like and sympathise or empathise with. And as Our Lord said ‘do not the hypocrites do the same’?

The true test of a Christian is to pray for the unlovable, the unsympathetic, the heinous sinners, our enemies. As they are the ones who most need our prayers. Jesus could pray for those who were killing Him while they were in the very act of doing so - we should follow His example. Doesn’t mean we are called on to have warm fuzzy feelings towards them, but I’m sure He didn’t have warm fuzzy feelings towards His crucifiers either, and he nonetheless prayed for them.
Dont put your guilt on me. I just said how I feel. You want to offer a prayer for his soul go ahead. I honestly doubt that if God saved ladin that I will go to hell for not praying for him.:rolleyes: Perhaps you should pray for my soul too. Look, the only way a prayer for bin ladin would do any good right now anyway is if he is in purgatory, If he is already saved. We should and did pray for him while alive. You could have prayed for his soul then, but now, as Catholics we understand that our prayers can only go so far and that his actions and beliefs now have to carry his soul to his maker. If he came to God at his last breath, great, that is how Gods mercy works but the logic I find starnge is one that thinks that we can pray bin ladin to be sitting right next to his victims.
Your strange logic only would go so far. I think much higher of you than to think you would suggest a priest at a parish in New York with several victims of WTC in His parish would recieve the same speech from you for not puting the prayer for the repose of the soul of bin ladin into the prayers of the faithful. I will pray, in thanksgiving!
Praise be to God that he has allowed this avenue of Justice for us. Thanks be to God and Blessed be the honorable men who were there.

PS on a off note I find it odd that many question the existance of God because of all the evil in the world and then when Justice comes to an evil doer we question God again…

Thank you Jesus that on the day of the beatification of a man who saw and played a part in the justice of defeating communism that we can now see the Justice of a part of defeating the new political threat of our day.
 
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