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johnnykins
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Fingolfin rides out to do battle with Melkor…
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seekerz
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I agree. The whole ‘back to the past’ thing just doesn’t work for me; neither do the claims to superior values.
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ringil
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uh, oh. Remember what happens to Fingolfin! Though his ending was glorious!!
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7_Sorrows
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the Rasmussen poll is a reliable poll in my opinion.
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bellasbane
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I suppose if he was like Mitt Romney and signed into law a health care plan that provides unlimited taxpayer funded abortion and then shook himself like a etch-a-sketch and pretended he was pro-life - I would definitely question his integrity.
In fact, I’d be the first to start calling him Obamney!
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ringil
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Oh don’t pick on them! He’s all they’ve got!I suppose if he was like Mitt Romney and signed into law a health care plan that provides unlimited taxpayer funded abortion and then shook himself like a etch-a-sketch and pretended he was pro-life - I would definitely question his integrity.
In fact, I’d be the first to start calling him Obamney!
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ringil
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Romney is like the GOP version of John Kerry. Like watching paint dry. . . .
I think he should grow a goatie personally. . . .
Or maybe a mullet. . . .
I think he should grow a goatie personally. . . .
Or maybe a mullet. . . .
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ishii
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Oh, overconfidence works for me. The more overconfident Obama and his supporters are, the lower the turnout will be. Keep it up until election day please.Oh don’t pick on them! He’s all they’ve got!
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ishii
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I think a lot of voters will go for dull and boring if they believe that he might provide some relief from the high gas prices, turn the economy around, and control spending so the next generations don’t get stuck having to foot the bill. Also, given how unpopular Obamacare is, I am sure that Romney’s plan to repeal it will help him.
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ringil
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Oh, I was only referring to the above post. I am not over-confident at all. I am especially concerned that portions, or the entirety of the Affordable Health Care Act will be struck down by the Supreme Court.
Romeny is not an excellent candidate, but he is “good enough” for the great majority of Conservatives I am sure.
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ringil
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Romney’s got no traction on Conservatives and health care, no matter how he spins it. This simply isn’t a strong issue for him.
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ishii
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I disagree. It looks like it might be possible for the GOP to win the Senate. If that happens then they would repeal Obamacare and Romney would sign it. Romney doesn’t need to be have a conservative record on healthcare to get votes. Trust me, conservatives do not want Obama re-elected. They will vote for Romney. They will enthusiastically vote against Obama by voting for Romney.
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Semper_Zelare
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Pray the Rosary for the Supreme Court to declare Obamacare and the HHS mandate unconstitutional. Pray for Justice Kennedy.The attorney general of Virginia said today on The World Over with Raymond Arroyo that he now moved from “cautiously optimistic” to even more optimistic after he listened to the 5 hours of oral arguments. He said he could see 5 votes against the mandate, as well as against the whole law.
Other than that, I’ll trust my political science textbooks over you. The base of the parties turn out less when a moderate is elected. They don’t turn out more or even the same as if a Conservative or Liberal were elected. When a moderate is on the ticket turnout of the respective party’s base is always lower. And you don’t have to trust me on that, trust all the number crunching, data analyzing, thesis writing Political Scientists who publish extensive research on this kind of stuff.
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OrdinaryMelkite
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I personally lean Santorum----believe him to be the best representative of my values and of my faith----------but realistically I have to admit this is almost certainly going to be Romney’s show.
While I have strong reservations about Romney’s personal qualifications for the job -------and also his religion (to be honest), they are NOT enough to hinder my voting for him in November. We cannot have four more years of Obama, period.
Cannot.
Indeed.
While I have strong reservations about Romney’s personal qualifications for the job -------and also his religion (to be honest), they are NOT enough to hinder my voting for him in November. We cannot have four more years of Obama, period.
Cannot.
Indeed.
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ishii
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Wow, you’re really asking a lot - you want me to take your word that your interpretation of some poli sci textbooks have it all figured out. Gee, thanks for enlightening me! Now I know where to go to get all the correct political information. I am sure that Dick Morris, Ed Gillespie and all the other political pundits go to academic textbooks to draw their conclusions. Not.
Question for you: What is the historical precedent for this election? When has there been an election in which a committed secular leftist ideologue (Obama) has gone up against a “moderate” who is running as a conservative? I can think of a few examples: Bush 1 vs. Dukakis. Bush was basically a moderate running as a conservative against a liberal (not as liberal as Obama). Bush won, of course. In '72, you had a moderate to liberal Republican (Nixon) going up against the leftist McGovern. Nixon won in a landslide. So it would seem that a moderate GOP candidate has indeed won an election. I would go back and re-read those poli-sci books more closely, or perhaps buy better ones.
The base will turn out for Romney because the base can’t stand the thought of Obama winning. There is more at stake this election than before so your examples from your textbooks don’t apply.
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Bocephus
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I think you have to look at your textbooks and current environment as well. Don’t be like those pesky engineer’s, they can’t do anything without a calculator…ducks…
The attorney general of Virginia said today on The World Over with Raymond Arroyo that he now moved from “cautiously optimistic” to even more optimistic after he listened to the 5 hours of oral arguments. He said he could see 5 votes against the mandate, as well as against the whole law.
Other than that, I’ll trust my political science textbooks over you. The base of the parties turn out less when a moderate is elected. They don’t turn out more or even the same as if a Conservative or Liberal were elected. When a moderate is on the ticket turnout of the respective party’s base is always lower. And you don’t have to trust me on that, trust all the number crunching, data analyzing, thesis writing Political Scientists who publish extensive research on this kind of stuff.
Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that the anti-Obama turnout will be motivated. Romney’s not the best candidate, but when it comes to motivation Obama’s the best candidate to be running against for a second term in this political environment. Romney won’t bring out the base, Obama will.
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ssa_fellow
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Whatever, Political Scientists know a lot more than a Romney supporter. There’s nothing to say you aren’ being idealistic. There’s a lot to say that Political Scientists aren’t idealistic, they study it for a living and have to be fair in their research or else it won’t be peer reviewed.
Furthermore, I would think that McCain v Obama has more bearing on the current race than Bush Senior v Dukakis the online dictionary doesn’t even know who Dukakis was. (it thinks it’s spelled wrong).
The only time in the past 120 years that the Republicans have defeated an incumbent Democratic President they ran a conservative- Ronald Reagan. Every other incumbent Democrat was re-elected (besides Kennedy)
And when it comes to McCain and Mitt Romney, well… McCain did beat Romney, then there’s this:
It was either that or a bunch of boring data showing how McCain was a much stronger front runner than Romney. Romney is statistically the weakest frontrunner I think ever in a Republican primary. He’s the only frontrunner to win only 1 out of the first 3 states. All other GOP frontrunners have won 2.
Furthermore, I would think that McCain v Obama has more bearing on the current race than Bush Senior v Dukakis the online dictionary doesn’t even know who Dukakis was. (it thinks it’s spelled wrong).
The only time in the past 120 years that the Republicans have defeated an incumbent Democratic President they ran a conservative- Ronald Reagan. Every other incumbent Democrat was re-elected (besides Kennedy)
And when it comes to McCain and Mitt Romney, well… McCain did beat Romney, then there’s this:
It was either that or a bunch of boring data showing how McCain was a much stronger front runner than Romney. Romney is statistically the weakest frontrunner I think ever in a Republican primary. He’s the only frontrunner to win only 1 out of the first 3 states. All other GOP frontrunners have won 2.
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ishii
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Well said, Bocephus. You said in one short sentence what it took me two paragraphs to say .
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7_Sorrows
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i agree. CANNOT! CANNOT! CANNOT!
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JMJ2013
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Absoultely CANNOT! Romney 2012
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