Our Son refused by the priest.

[FAB]

As a deacon, shouldn’t you post the entire message of Jesus? Instead of picking and choosing the quote that suits your needs?

We are called to judge. In fact, are we not called, as a spiritual work of mercy to “admonish the sinner.” How are we to do that if we cannot call out sin?

No where have I seen in the OP’s responses where she is AT ALL interested in the Catholic church. No where did I see her indicate AT ALL that she had any interest in joining the church.

Her current live in lover wants his daughter Baptized. So, to include everyone and because her son is starting school at a Catholic School, she wants to have him “Christened.” How can a Deacon of the Catholic Church, not see that as a problem???

In admonishing the sinner we must also show mercy, be willing the help the person out of thier sinfulness, pray, work and guide them. Jesus healed, forgave sins and told them to sin no more. He didn’t first call them a sinner, admonish them for the dead and then heal them. He guided them to His truth through healing first.
I work with juvenille offenders, I pray and counsel with them. I never admonish them, they know they have done wrong, if I were to call them out as sinners first, I would get no were. Instead I accept them were they are, show them the love of Christ, work with them to understand there is a better way.
We work with people to bring them to the truth, they will repent given the chance knowing that a loving God is there to accept them.

As far as you last question of why I don’t see it as a problem. It is the children we are baptising, and since the boy, is entering Catholic school he will be recieving instruction in the faith and there is our hope that he is being raised in the faith. I am also not worried as to the teminolgy shen is using. Both her and her partner have the great opportunity to know the truth, there are four souls here in which we are concerned. If we show the love of Christ to those who come to use the rest will follow.

 

[jilly4ski]

In admonishing the sinner we must also show mercy, be willing the help the person out of thier sinfulness, pray, work and guide them. Jesus healed, forgave sins and told them to sin no more. He didn’t first call them a sinner, admonish them for the dead and then heal them. He guided them to His truth through healing first.
I work with juvenille offenders, I pray and counsel with them. I never admonish them, they know they have done wrong, if I were to call them out as sinners first, I would get no were. Instead I accept them were they are, show them the love of Christ, work with them to understand there is a better way.
We work with people to bring them to the truth, they will repent given the chance knowing that a loving God is there to accept them.

As far as you last question of why I don’t see it as a problem. It is the children we are baptising, and since the boy, is entering Catholic school he will be recieving instruction in the faith and there is our hope that he is being raised in the faith. I am also not worried as to the teminolgy shen is using. Both her and her partner have the great opportunity to know the truth, there are four souls here in which we are concerned. If we show the love of Christ to those who come to use the rest will follow.

Yes, I am sure your approach is very comforting to those who were baptized Catholic but were not brought up in the faith, actually have a conversion of heart, and then find that they are barred from the sacraments because of an invalid marriage. (Married a divorced person).

 

[EvelynEVF]

So the question seems to be… the value of baptism for a child, irrespective of the errors of the parents. Is it better for a child to not ever be baptized, because of the errors of his parents, or not? Is the child culpable at 1 or 2 or 3 years old, for his parent’s errors?

I’m kind of figuring that any parent who wants baptism outside of practice of the faith, for sort of magical reasons, would be wiser to have the baby baptized somewhere else. There are two issues here-- baptism itself, but then also the fact the baptism in a Catholic church makes a person Catholic, and there are way more obligations attached to that.