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brian_custer
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nothing will come of this. the whole thing will be forgotten in 24 hours
that is the sad state of the church in europe…
that is the sad state of the church in europe…
Over 200 consecrated hosts stolen, desecrated in Spain art exhibit
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Billy112
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Let us all pray for this man.
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_Abyssinia
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Over 95000 people have signed this petition: change.org/p/josebaasiron-pamplonairuna-paren-esta-grave-profanación-pública-es-delito?recruiter=145751750&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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7_Sorrows
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he can say they were consecrated hosts, but they probably weren’t.
he just knows he will enrage people more by saying they are.
he just knows he will enrage people more by saying they are.
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wild_thing
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The Golden Arrow
May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and unutterable Name of God be always praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God, and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.
May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and unutterable Name of God be always praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God, and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen.
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Tim_D
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Way to take a news event and turn it into a tirade about a personal agenda.
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ProVobis
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I’m beginning to think you’re right. It could be some people have way too much time on their hands.
Really? I hate to remind you that before Vatican II it was considered a sacrilege for any laity to touch the Eucharist. Now with the right permissions any one can do it.
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DeniseNY
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I agree
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Tim_D
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There are man “pre-Vatican II” beliefs and practices that have found themselves on the wayside. The Church tried to live in a vacuum for 400 years after Trent. It didn’t help anything.
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Confiteor_Deo
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ChikaisHis
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Amen
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Padres1969
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Probably not. You can get 1000 communion wafers for like $9 on Amazon. More likely that’s where he got them, then took that photo to enrage people.
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7_Sorrows
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that is what I believe also.
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Micosil
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I honestly hope this is the case as well. However, given the picture in the article, I suspect actual consecrated Hosts may have been involved.
As for laity being allowed to administer communion … anyone that wishes to desecrate a Host such as this individual claims to have done, will just dupe the priest instead of an EMOHC and go ahead and commit sacrilege anyway.
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7_Sorrows
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what was it from the picture that makes you believe the hosts were consecrated? is the artist Catholic or a former Catholic?I honestly hope this is the case as well. However, given the picture in the article, I suspect actual consecrated Hosts may have been involved.
As for laity being allowed to administer communion … anyone that wishes to desecrate a Host such as this individual claims to have done, will just dupe the priest instead of an EMOHC and go ahead and commit sacrilege anyway.
I don’t understand how over 200 times he would have been able to not consume the host without being caught.
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Micosil
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There’s some theories that were expounded here; perhaps he had collaborators who went to daily Mass to collect as many hosts as possible; perhaps he went to more than one parish per day during daily Mass; in larger cities it isn’t unusual for there to be multiple daily masses, many at different times. As for the picture (pbs.twimg.com/media/CUblZp9WoAAWKa7.jpg), it looks as though he is walking away from the Eucharistic Minister and about to place it into his hand; though it isn’t clear whether he is putting it into his mouth or about to remove it.
Perhaps only some of them were actually consecrated; the others being simple bread.
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mikekle
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I just saw this thread and am disgusted by it, but I guess it comes down to whether they were truly consecrated or not, if the claim is they were, I have to wonder why God did not take any action against this, surely that would be plenty to get at least some kind of divine warning.
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TCEL
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I don’t think Provobis has tried to live in a vacuum if s/he’s read books on particle physics. For the record, I don’t have a problem with reception in the hand, and that is how I regularly receive. However, Provobis’ point seems practical; concern that the ability to receive by hand makes theft for the workaday person easier.
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Micosil
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While this in and of itself may be true, it isn’t true that it’s a practice “introduced with Vatican II.”
matt1618.freeyellow.com/communion.html
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7_Sorrows
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I wonder who took his picture!? How weird! Thanks for posting the link to this picture.There’s some theories that were expounded here; perhaps he had collaborators who went to daily Mass to collect as many hosts as possible; perhaps he went to more than one parish per day during daily Mass; in larger cities it isn’t unusual for there to be multiple daily masses, many at different times. As for the picture (pbs.twimg.com/media/CUblZp9WoAAWKa7.jpg), it looks as though he is walking away from the Eucharistic Minister and about to place it into his hand;
though it isn’t clear whether he is putting it into his mouth or about to remove it.
Perhaps only some of them were actually consecrated; the others being simple bread.
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