Over 200 consecrated hosts stolen, desecrated in Spain art exhibit

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friardchips said:
But this emphasis on temporal strictness is not everything and that was the problem with pre-vat II. It was more about how things were done, not why.

Everything was very enclosed.

Lots of people use Pre-Vat II, - I’m not saying you meant it like this - to excuse a lack of commitment to true Gospel values after a certain time. In fact Vatican II was a gift to the Church and a great blessing, and it wasn’t Vat II that in itself brought about a so-called lack of reverence, it was two background truths that these contrived misconceptions were manufactured to mask:
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In fairness to Vatican II, they did make the wafer larger and stressed the importance of receiving hosts which were consecrated at that same Mass. These were not bad things. But when this “priesthood of the laity” was implied by the “spirit of Vatican II” the liturgy tended to get “banalized and desacralized.” Thus the reason why people begged for a return to the pre-Vatican II Mass and/or the rules associated with it. According to Cardinal Arinze, anyway.
 
ProVobis said:
In fairness to Vatican II, they did make the wafer larger and stressed the importance of receiving hosts which were consecrated at that same Mass. These were not bad things. But when this “priesthood of the laity” was implied by the “spirit of Vatican II” the liturgy tended to get “banalized and desacralized.” Thus the reason why people begged for a return to the pre-Vatican II Mass and/or the rules associated with it. According to Cardinal Arinze, anyway.
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Thanks for this explanation. 🙂 It is a sensitive issue.
 
I have a question: as truly abhorrent as this is, aren’t we to pray for this person’s conversion or something? Surely he can’t really understand what he has done. At this point I should state that I didn’t read the article itself, only the initial quote. I have to say that I feel completely disgusted at what he has done, it’s just that I know that Jesus will forgive even the most hardened sinner, if they were to repent.
 
sudy said:
I have a question: as truly abhorrent as this is, aren’t we to pray for this person’s conversion or something? Surely he can’t really understand what he has done. At this point I should state that I didn’t read the article itself, only the initial quote. I have to say that I feel completely disgusted at what he has done, it’s just that I know that Jesus will forgive even the most hardened sinner, if they were to repent.
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Yes, we surely are.
 
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