Padre Pio saw Martin Luther in Hell?

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This is a private revelation (not to mention a really bad translation.).

If it is true, this is nothing to gloat about. Jesus died a horrible death for our salvation, and the loss of even one soul is an immense tragedy.

In our religion, we pray for the living and the dead.
 
I think it would be VERY wise to exercise caution in this type of instance. For one, this is a “he said-she said” kind of thing. There was no public declaration by Padre Pio, as far as I am aware, about the state of Martin Luther’s soul. Two, I believe the teaching of the Church indicates that it is potentially a sin to make definitive and public statement about a person being in Heaven OR Hell. Three, how could Padre Pio know the sate of Martin Luther’s soul at death? One may claim that God told Padre Pio, and perhaps so, but that is a case of private revelation, which we are not obliged to believe.

Not saying it can’t be true, just saying that a healthy dose of caution in the “He/She is in Heaven/Hell” is warranted.
 
This friar belongs to the Franciscans of the Immaculate who are at odds with the Vatican.
 
As far as I know only a nun, sister Maria Serafini, saw Luther in Hell.
 
The Church has never stated with definitive assurance that anyone is in hell, not even Judas. If anyone has stated so I personally would not trust it.
 
They were appointed a commissioner. Things seem to have calmed down.
 
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To our Protestant brothers and sisters: The teaching office of the church (the “magisterium” of the bishops), the Scriptures, and Apostolic Tradition are our chief sources of Catholic teaching.

And in Catholic teaching, a Protestant is NOT automatically condemned to hell simply for being Protestant. In fact, the Catholic Church largely regards Protestants as having valid Baptisms, which means they are at least incorporated to the Body of Christ, if not perfectly united.
 
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My takeaway from this is this quote:
On this point, Padre Pio, with simple words, which were terrible, said that those who believe they can communicate with God directly, are on the way to Hell.
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The article then launches into a story of a woman, already beatified, who apparently communicated with God.

???

Are they condemning the beatified woman for communicating with God? It seems disjointed, incoherent. What is the point?
 
There’s a lot of things about Padre Pio I find suspect. I’ll leave it there.
 
That story was debunked. Martin Luther’sentence was commuted to serving 15 years at the Delta terminal at JFK.
 
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Padre Pio saw Martin Luther in hell during one of his visions.
 
If he did, it was a private revelation. The Catholic Church has NEVER stated that anyone particular is in hell. Catholics do not have to believe in private revelations. Best to pray for everyone that they may be saved.
 
DENNYINMI said:
The Church has never stated with definitive assurance that anyone is in hell, not even Judas.
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Limoncello4021 said:
The Catholic Church has NEVER stated that anyone particular is in hell.
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I offer Sigismondo Pandolfo Malatesta as a possible exception: “In a unique ceremony, he was canonized into Hell with the curse, “No mortal heretofore has descended into Hell with the ceremony of canonization. Sigi shall be the first deemed worthy of such honor.””

I know, it’s wikipedia; I haven’t been able to confirm this beyond what I linked to in this thread…
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As the Church confirms Saints are now in Heaven, has it ever confirmed someone to be in Hell? Traditional Catholicism
I have no idea of the truth of this, but I present the wikipedia page for Sigismondo Pandolfo Malatesta for consideration. It says: Pope Pius II, who considered him guilty of treachery towards Siena arising from his long-running feud with Federico da Montefeltro, Duke of Urbino, excommunicated him, declaring him a heretic and attributing to Sigismondo a series of sins (incest, sodomy against his son Roberto and others) which smeared his reputation for centuries. In a unique ceremony, he was ca…
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I’ve read a lot about St Pio and the best account of his life I found was “padre Pio, the true story by C.Bernard Ruffin” not that I’m promoting it. A lot of other books are full of all sorts of amazing claims about dear Padre Pio and I suspect that many are ‘embellished’ somewhat. Having said that I am a fan of his I must admit, very much so.
I don’t remember him saying that he’d seen Martin Luther in hell.
 
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