Wrong. The standards will be lowered so that women can keep up.
That’s just feminist talk at the expense of unit cohesion and moral. In your world view, training and qualification standards must be lowered, and the male infantryman better play nice and accept this atrocious new policy; or they’re in trouble. All this so a girl who wants to play soldier has the “right” to do so.
Please don’t tell me what my worldview is.
Are you under the impression that the basic training standards are the same for men and women now?
No. But are you aware that physical standards are different even between men based on height and age?
Wrong. There is no current combat mos open to women.
It’s even more vital. Do you know the average load out for a 12b on a dismounted patrol?
They are* for soldiers entering non-combat MOSs.
The “men only” ideology is archaic and ignores reality. Women find themselves in combat situations in Iraq and Afghanistan whether we or our enemies want them to or not. They’re already participating in combat; this is just a formality.
Captain Mike although I haven’t been in the military I have had close contact with a lot of our troops during the Iraq and Afghanistan, both male and female. The females are constantly telling me they are not only harrassed and in danger of assault by males…there are many contractors and locals who provide a lot more risk along with the occasional troop who gets out of line. Further imagine a female troop captured by the Taliban…Oh and not to be too graphic but my female military friends said one of the biggest issues is eliminating while on patrol. Apparently the promoters of this idiotic idea don’t realize that the delays and risks associated with a woman having to take off her uniform and squat beside the road. In fact our female troops LOVED a particular type of funnel that helped them urinate without going down both legs…but they still had to unpack and undo their uniforms and gear…not all that easy along a “road” in Iraq.
Technically true. But women, like men, do find themselves put in to combat even if that’s not their stated role.
How is his comment “technically” true?
Were you ever deployed? I’ve been to many bases and life there isn’t all that different than in a suburban housing development. OTOH living in a BHut or a tent out in EBF Afghanistan is a little more challenging.
It is certainly no formality. While there are women mp’s and s&s units that do come under fire; the mission, environments and physical requirements for 11b or 12b for example; are completely different.
The physical requirements for basic training are different for men and women. A simple example - men are required to perform a certain number of pull ups, women simple have to meet a “hang time” (assuming if she hangs around long enough someone will pull her up).
I doubt our enemies care what our physical requirements are. They’re going to, and have, attacked convoys and such whether or not women are present and regardless of which gender we think is best to fight them. I wonder if the survivors of those attacks would say they were appalled that a woman had their back. Women are already in combat situations so suddenly saying that they’re allowed to be is meaningless.
That means it is true.
I thought “true” meant it was true. I guess your comment was truly true.
Absolutely true.
was storming omaha beach anything like being in a convoy? didn’t think so.I doubt our enemies care what our physical requirements are. They’re going to, and have, attacked convoys and such whether or not women are present and regardless of which gender we think is best to fight them. I wonder if the survivors of those attacks would say they were appalled that a woman had their back. Women are already in combat situations so suddenly saying that they’re allowed to be is meaningless.
Being in a “combat situation” is a lot different than kicking down a door and facing armed opposition. Indeed women have taken fire both in convoys and even on base. One huge Iraq location was known for the “Friday Mortars After Mosque” that occurred routinely. But again, it’s a lot different being on base and dodging the occasional mortar and being in a firefight.I doubt our enemies care what our physical requirements are. They’re going to, and have, attacked convoys and such whether or not women are present and regardless of which gender we think is best to fight them. I wonder if the survivors of those attacks would say they were appalled that a woman had their back. Women are already in combat situations so suddenly saying that they’re allowed to be is meaningless.