Parents Oppose Ash Wednesday

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you mean I don’t have the luxury to live without shame of belonging to God?
 
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you mean I don’t have the luxury to live without shame of belonging to God?
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Try and find kindred souls in people like Pope St John Paul II who spent the first few years as a seminarian studying in an underground seminary in Poland pretending to not be Catholic in public. Or the Chinese Church who’ve produced many wonderful Catholic faithful who have sacrificed to love God. It’s a great grace to be constant and faithful when under opression.
 
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The entire point of the ashes is to show we belong to God and are not ashamed of those beliefs.
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No, the entire point of the ashes in my opinion is to remind us hat we are dust, and to dust we shall return.
 
Mother Angelica advised wearing them for a little while, at least and not to wash them off right away.

However, as long as you live under your parents roof, you must obey their rules.
 
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you mean I don’t have the luxury to live without shame of belonging to God?
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No. I mean you don’t have the luxury of demonstrating your Catholic traditions, etc. You don’t seem to be understanding that when you aren’t paying your way, you don’t get to do what you want. If you do, then that is gravy.

We see this here sometimes. Young people who feel entitled to live the way they want, and how they want, but on some else’s dime. I know that sounds harsh, but it is the reality. I moved out of my parents home right around your age because they wanted me doing certain things/ not doing certain things in their home that I wasn’t in agreement with. There is a reason most adults don’t live at home with their parents.

Should parents be understanding, welcoming, etc? Of course. Are they? Maybe, if you are lucky. Do they have to be? Absolutely not.

Put the shoe on the other foot. If they were practicing a religion you didn’t like in your home that you were working hard to pay for, would you appreciate or allow that? What if it was something you found incredibly objectionable? It is no different than a devout Catholic family wanting their adult child to embrace Catholicism when he or she doesn’t, but is living under their roof. The good advice is always, tow the line if you expect to live in harmony with those who are providing for you.

There is no need to live in shame at all. Nobody can get inside your head but you, unless you let them.
 
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I’m worried about a slippery slope effect. my dad added on that in this house we won’t have “Catholic symbols” and if ash reminding us of something that he and I both agree on (that we are from dust and will return again), is causing such commotion, what else will I not be able to do at home?
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Would that include these?
Crucifix, Cross, The Lamb, Sacred Heart, IHS, XP, Alpha and Omega, The Fish, Fleur de Lis, The Dove, Crossed Keys, Papal Cross, Religious Medals, Statues or Icons of Holy People and Angels, a Rosary, other prayer beads, scapulars.
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kurt1, I know what “I” would do. What you do will be based on your family situation.

However, if the ashes are “provocative”, tell him that Christ has always been provocative. Christ came to divide families, He did not bring peace, but a sword! (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:53) Now these are not licenses to go around offending everyone. What they are, is evidence that Christ was, is and always will be a polarizing figure.

Am guessing that dad is a member of one of the various Baptist denominations? If so look up John Smyth, who “invented” the Baptist congregation in England in 1609 or thereabouts.

How can that be the Church which Christ founded?
 
no need to get all on the offense. I’m not acting entitled at all. if you don’t have constructive answers to give, I’d really rather not hear it. thanks.
 
yeah he’s one of those “independent Baptists”, they only follow their pastor, no meetings or councils with other similar churches. and researching John Smythe is partially what made me rethink the Baptist faith at first haha
 
I’d say that that is the meaning of the ashes, but the purpose in wearing them is a sign that we belong to Christ. but hey, feel free to find your own meaning in them 🙂
 
Have patience. You will be an adult in a flash, with job and an apartment. Then you never have to obey them again. Right now, the Church teaches obedience to authority.
 
When it came to religion even Jesus stayed behind to teach in the synagogue while his parents were worried and didn’t know where He was.
 
The Church does not say that you have to obey your parents when they are going against your religion.
 
He was supposed to be with them and instead stayed in the temple … what would you call that?
 
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He was not prohibited to be where He was. His parents should have looked there. He must have wanted them to find Him there eventually. They worried, and did not know that they should not worry for Him.
 
I will leave this be at it is up for interpretation … several books I have read through the years interpreted it as disobedience … the one and only time Jesus did disobey His parents.
 
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