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Indeed, so I’m well placed to judge on the success or failure of the wager. It fails.*Candide
And so you are precisely the kind of person Pascal’s wager is addressed to.
Nope I’m feeling pretty happy and enthusiastic thanks. As for the value of religion… On the contrary, I think religion is very comforting to some people, and people find comfort to be valuable, so that means that to some people at least religion is valuable. Obviously that doesn’t make it any more likely to be true.*It’s obvious that you don’t think any religion is worth anything. But that is a cerebral judgment. According to Pascal, you should let your heart in on the action, becasue it has reasons the intellect cannot fathom. One of those reasons is that hope springs eternal in the human heart. When you douse the flame of hope, you become somewhat less than fully human. Ask anyone who feels hopeless about anything.*
Well I can’t speak for most atheists as I haven’t asked them. But I don’t think that religion is a delusion exactly. It’s just not correct. Many people have been wrong about loads of stuff throughout human history. So nothing new here.*I have been there. I know what it means to be an atheist, and I know what it means to chuck that for something better … vastly better … something that does not presume to know for a fact that God is a delusion for the mentally challenged, as most atheists clearly believe.*
Nope, that’s one of the reasons why I say nothing of the sort.When you say or imply that all religions are delusional, this even presumes a bias on your part against all religion, since you cannot possibly have studied all religions and judged them all to be delusional.*
Incorrect, I was a practicing Christian for many years. The reason I ceased to be was because I kept studying and reading and finding gaps, eventually it became apparent that the gaps were pretty much all there was and I realised I really wasn’t a Christian any more.*My guess is that you haven’t studied Christianity at all … except maybe from a cerebral distance.*
So when the atheist dies and stands before Christ to be judged, what will be his plea?
“Lord, you didn’t make a convincing case.”
His answer will be the same as it was to Thomas.
If I end up standing before some form of deity to be judged then I think I should have nothing to fear in saying“Blessed are those who believe and have not seen.”
“you gave me absolutely no evidence for your existence, so I held to my honesty, reason and intellectual integrity and did not believe in you”
If I get punished for that then he should also punish me for not having believed in Thor, Allah, Zeus and the Flying Spaghetti Monster too.*