Pat Robertson challenges creationism, cities dinosaurs

[Azygos]

Try reading what he says.

You are just going to twist yourself in knots if you seriously think the Pope is wrong and God is allowing this to happen.

What if you are wrong? Do you want to remain wrong?

And seriously look at my previous questions:

• Where does the Bible get it’s authority from? AS you know it;s not from itself, but from the Church, so how could the Bible pronounce the Church wrong?
• If the bible is literal why aren’t you following Levitical Law?

What if you are wrong? Do you want to remain wrong? In fact Official Doctrine teaches literal Genesis.

 

[ishii]

1 Corinthians 3
18 Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own ruses,”

20 and again: “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.”
**
If I am foolish it is for God.**

1 Corinthians 1
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom (Including Scientist)

Is the Earth flat or round?

Ishii

 

[Azygos]

What does foolish mean here?

It means I’m going to believe God over Human Wisdom because Humans are foolish compared to the Wisdom of God. Go on believing the Godless scientist if you want to but know this. They do not have the Spirit of Truth. They claim God doesn’t exist which is an obvious lie. If they were to lie to you about that whats to stop them from lying to you about Evolution and the Age of the Earth.

 

[oldcelt]

1 Corinthians 3
18 Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own ruses,”

20 and again: “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.”
**
If I am foolish it is for God.**

1 Corinthians 1
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom (Including Scientist)

You didn’t answer Ishii’s question…you simply regurgitated a bunch of biblical verses.

 

[triumphguy]

What if you are wrong? Do you want to remain wrong? In fact Official Doctrine teaches literal Genesis.

I don’t claim to be right or wrong: I’m lucky enough to be able to trust in Pope Benedict.

Who do you trust?

And don’t say the Bible 'cos as a Catholic that gets you back to the Church which means Pope Benedict.

 

[oldcelt]

It means I’m going to believe God over Human Wisdom because Humans are foolish compared to the Wisdom of God. Go on believing the Godless scientist if you want to but know this. They do not have the Spirit of Truth. They claim God doesn’t exist which is an obvious lie. If they were to lie to you about that whats to stop them from lying to you about Evolution and the Age of the Earth.

Says you.

 

[Azygos]

I don’t claim to be right or wrong: I’m lucky enough to be able to trust in Pope Benedict.

Who do you trust?

And don’t say the Bible 'cos as a Catholic that gets you back to the Church which means Pope Benedict.

I trust in the Word of God and Official Church Doctrine. Not to mention I do my research and everything I believe has been confirmed by Science.

 

[oldcelt]

What if you are wrong? Do you want to remain wrong? In fact Official Doctrine teaches literal Genesis.

If that is the case, I’m certain you can provide the Church teaching to show this.I’ll be waiting patiently.

 

[triumphguy]

It means I’m going to believe God over Human Wisdom because Humans are foolish compared to the Wisdom of God. Go on believing the Godless scientist if you want to but know this. They do not have the Spirit of Truth. They claim God doesn’t exist which is an obvious lie. If they were to lie to you about that whats to stop them from lying to you about Evolution and the Age of the Earth.

Your whole language is that of a fundamentalist not a Catholic.

You seem to have been influenced by an anti-Catholic school of thought.

Seriously Azygos: read what our Church actually says, and do your argument a favour and stop with the godless this, and the foolish that. It’s just a bunch of cliches.

 

[Azygos]

You didn’t answer Ishii’s question…you simply regurgitated a bunch of biblical verses.

His question is not worthy of an answer and it is an attempt to mock me. Very unchristian to attempt to mock a brother.

 

[oldcelt]

I trust in the Word of God and Official Church Doctrine. Not to mention I do my research and everything I believe has been confirmed by Science.

What science…the links you’ve been providing?

 

[triumphguy]

I trust in the Word of God and Official Church Doctrine. Not to mention I do my research and everything I believe has been confirmed by Science.

OK - show me where the rubber meets the road.

Show Church teaching and real (not bogus) science.

Maybe start with our recent Popes, they’ve written extensively on this topic.

Here’s a good one to start with: vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2008/october/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20081031_academy-sciences_en.html

My predecessors Pope Pius XII and Pope John Paul II noted that there is no opposition between faith’s understanding of creation and the evidence of the empirical sciences.

And this is going to be my last post on this.

 

[oldcelt]

His question is not worthy of an answer and it is an attempt to mock me. Very unchristian to attempt to mock a brother.

Playing the victim now are we? Still waiting on that Church doctrine for a literal Genesis.

 

[Azygos]

I can’t believe I’m trying to prove Creation to a bunch of Christians…
DNA is the best proof that evolution could have never of taken place.

creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences39.html

There is no counter argument for this. DNA needs a creator that had to make it’s existence instantaneously. Why is that so hard to believe… Because the Godless taught you their theory of evolution.

 

[oldcelt]

I can’t believe I’m trying to prove Creation to a bunch of Christians…
DNA is the best proof that evolution could have never of taken place.

creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences39.html

There is no counter argument for this. DNA needs a creator that had to make it’s existence instantaneously. Why is that so hard to believe… Because the Godless taught you their theory of evolution.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/04/120419-xna-synthetic-dna-evolution-genetics-life-science/

Synthetic DNA Created, Evolves on Its Own

So, man has created it…I guess that “proves” that man is the creator of DNA

 

[waanju]

I was hoping that your were arguing for four pages just to argue…but that hope has been dashed. You really are saying that people like those in that DVD are to be taken more seriously than Pope Benedict and a plethora of other learned people.

Goodbye again… I’ll only step in again if I feel I HAVE to.

 

[oldcelt]

Goodbye again… I’ll only step in again if I feel I HAVE to.

Be well

 

[Azygos]

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/04/120419-xna-synthetic-dna-evolution-genetics-life-science/

Synthetic DNA Created, Evolves on Its Own

Your article is not even worth reading because DNA has never evolved and it always tries to repair itself. They are probably going to claim a mutation as evidence but that is hardly evidence of the Creation of DNA. You don’t know what you do here. You willingly support the Godless lies because they sound sense-able to you. How you can believe Jesus rose from the dead on the third day and appeared to over 500 people at the same time but you can’t believe God created man instantly. What is wrong with this picture and why are you holding on to false beliefs?

I read it anyways but what they don’t tell you is that they haven’t created real DNA. Whatever their synthetic compound is it will not be able to support life and it doesn’t prove anything unless they can actually make life out of it. If I build a computer that holds knowledge that is hardly proof of a brain.

 

[ishii]

His question is not worthy of an answer and it is an attempt to mock me. Very unchristian to attempt to mock a brother.

No, I actually know folks who believe the Earth to be flat. I was wondering what you thought about that - since you obviously take the minority view that the Earth was created only thousands of years ago, I was wondering if you also think the Earth is flat. I don’t know why you won’t answer the question. I am not looking to mock you, but rather just want to know where you’re coming from.

Is the world flat?

Ishii

 

[oldcelt]

Your article is not even worth reading because DNA has never evolved and it always tries to repair itself. They are probably going to claim a mutation as evidence but that is hardly evidence of the Creation of DNA. You don’t know what you do here. You willingly support the Godless lies because they sound sense-able to you. How you can believe Jesus rose from the dead on the third day and appeared to over 500 people at the same time but you can’t believe God created man instantly. What is wrong with this picture and why are you holding on to false beliefs?

I read it anyways but what they don’t tell you is that they haven’t created real DNA. Whatever their synthetic compound is it will not be able to support life and it doesn’t prove anything unless they can actually make life out of it. If I build a computer that holds knowledge that is hardly proof of a brain.

This brings up an interesting point. Since you are a self-professed biblical literalist, then why does creation even matter? Under the literalist view we can chuck almost the entire bible, put our faith in Jesus, and be done with it.

I support the godless because they’ve actually gone through the slow, difficult process of discovery…of course, by your definition, Pope Benedict, John Paul II and many others are godless. I’m in good company, and completely unworthy of the honor.

John