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Mitt Romney stated he wants to close down Planned Parenthood. Of course, husbands and wives don’t always agree on such things: George and Laura Bush, Ronald and Nancy Reagan, for example.
I think what Mitt has said is that he wants to pull all federal funding from Planned Parenthood. That is what he and his wife said in a recent interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday. It wouldn’t be his role to close Planned Parenthood down.

You are correct regarding wives and husbands. They also mentioned in the interview that there are things they don’t agree on, but his wife would not say what they were (smart woman…doesn’t fall into traps).
 
Mitt Romney stated he wants to close down Planned Parenthood. Of course, husbands and wives don’t always agree on such things: George and Laura Bush, Ronald and Nancy Reagan, for example.
Meltzerboy, I think he said he wanted no more public funding of Planned Parenthood. I don’t think he said bar the doors.

With respect to Planned Parenthood, while I imagine Mrs Romney had no idea about their abortion epmhasis at the time of her contribution, I am sad to say that PP is able to fool and bamboozle a lot of people that their donations are going for health screenings or Title 10 Clinics for the poor. Look at the Susan G Komen debacle this year. PP continued to claim that funds raised do NOT go for abortions. Of course it is a simple accounting trick but I do not think for one second that Mrs Romney supports abortion. She spoke recently of the heartbreak in their family when she had a miscarriage. This is a mother of five living children and not exactly the pro abort type.

Lisa
 
not too impressed with Obama’s policies. I’m worse off than I was 3 years ago.
I’m better off. Should I attribute that to Obama then or to my own efforts? And, if I were worse off, who should be blamed - Obama or me? 🤷
 
How? Is the campaign trumpeting her alleged donations in an effort to get votes from the pro-abortion side? I haven’t even heard the campaign mention it. 🤷
Actually his wife’s position on abortion isn’t the issue. I’m sure Romney will get votes from his own “former” position of pro-choice, which he made very clear in his videos. This is where politics gets real ugly, when politicians get away with talking from both sides of their mouths just to win elections.
 
I’m better off. Should I attribute that to Obama then or to my own efforts? And, if I were worse off, who should be blamed - Obama or me? 🤷
In my case, it’s due to rising fuel and food prices, not getting a raise for 3 years. The bank cut our line of credit.

I chalk a lot of that up to this administration’s energy policies.
 
In my case, it’s due to rising fuel and food prices, not getting a raise for 3 years. The bank cut our line of credit.

I chalk a lot of that up to this administration’s energy policies.
The Arkansas State government has had surpluses all along, and so was able to pass some of that to us bureaucrats. So, it wasn’t Obama nor I who did it for me, I guess.
 
In my case, it’s due to rising fuel and food prices, not getting a raise for 3 years. The bank cut our line of credit.

I chalk a lot of that up to this administration’s energy policies.
You know I think this is a real winner for Romney and something I hope he continues to spotlight. Obama’s hostility to any below the ground energy is clear. He went to the extent of defying a court order to resume drilling after the gulf spill and has blocked the Keystone Pipeline, promoted impossible fuel standards and those exploding battery powered cars. He’s pushing the complete demise of the coal industry.

All of this translates to high fuel prices…talk about a burden on the poor and the working family! Oh and the ethanol susidies have taken corn out of the food industry raising prices there as well.

Yet another reason to send Obama and his greenies packing!

Lisa
 
Why is that? What would Mitt’s wife’s past contributions to Planned Parenthood have to do with this election?
I don’t know, I just heard about it and find it a little damaging to his pro-life stance. I know you and others on this forum want to just take RR at their word but, I’d rather go by their past records.
 
… Our friends at fact Check have made a few comments I’d like to share. …
Our friends? Not mine. I’m not impressed with all of the “tu quoque” responses there. It doesn’t dispute what Ryan said, just responds with “yeah, but he did such-and-such, too.” Weak. Ryan did not “ask for” stimulus funds. He sent form letters in support of constituents who asked for funding. It’s the difference between applying for a job and writing a letter of reference. The Janesville GM plant story is way off in this “fact check.” The plant continued production into spring, 2009. But, the timing is actually irrelevant to the issue: Obama promised to keep it open, even when he knew its closure was planned, and now it’s closed. Obama led people to believe that if he was elected, the plant would stay open. They voted for him. Plant closed. That’s the point.
 
I don’t know, I just heard about it and find it a little damaging to his pro-life stance. I know you and others on this forum want to just take RR at their word but, I’d rather go by their past records.
Romney is weak (the “I’m pro-life with exceptions” stance is actually incoherent, in my opinion) on abortion. But, he’s still better than Obama on the issue. That’s a pretty low bar.
 
I don’t know, I just heard about it and find it a little damaging to his pro-life stance. I know you and others on this forum want to just take RR at their word but, I’d rather go by their past records.
How is the possibility that his wife may have given money to Planned Parenthood have any bearing on Mitt Romney’s pro-life stance? And, why do you accuse me of just taking “RR” at their word? I’ve looked through their past record thoroughly.
 
Our friends? Not mine. I’m not impressed with all of the “tu quoque” responses there. It doesn’t dispute what Ryan said, just responds with “yeah, but he did such-and-such, too.” Weak. Ryan did not “ask for” stimulus funds. He sent form letters in support of constituents who asked for funding. It’s the difference between applying for a job and writing a letter of reference. The Janesville GM plant story is way off in this “fact check.” The plant continued production into spring, 2009. But, the timing is actually irrelevant to the issue: Obama promised to keep it open, even when he knew its closure was planned, and now it’s closed. Obama led people to believe that if he was elected, the plant would stay open. They voted for him. Plant closed. That’s the point.
I’ve noticed these various “fact checks” have turned into opinion sites that stray far from just checking the facts. They lose all credibility when they do that.
 
I don’t know, I just heard about it and find it a little damaging to his pro-life stance. I know you and others on this forum want to just take RR at their word but, I’d rather go by their past records.
Great-if we go by past records Romney wins by a landslide!
 
I’ve noticed these various “fact checks” have turned into opinion sites that stray far from just checking the facts. They lose all credibility when they do that.
Yeah. The “FACT CHECK” (all caps when I see it at Yahoo!, for example. Why is that?) idea has jumped the shark. I’m done with it. I don’t care who they’re talking about.
 
How is the possibility that his wife may have given money to Planned Parenthood have any bearing on Mitt Romney’s pro-life stance? And, why do you accuse me of just taking “RR” at their word? I’ve looked through their past record thoroughly.
Robert-
You are a righty, therefore you do not think. Remember we’re anti-intellectuals. 😉
 
You know I think this is a real winner for Romney and something I hope he continues to spotlight. Obama’s hostility to any below the ground energy is clear. He went to the extent of defying a court order to resume drilling after the gulf spill and has blocked the Keystone Pipeline, promoted impossible fuel standards and those exploding battery powered cars. He’s pushing the complete demise of the coal industry.

All of this translates to high fuel prices…talk about a burden on the poor and the working family! Oh and the ethanol susidies have taken corn out of the food industry raising prices there as well.

Yet another reason to send Obama and his greenies packing!

Lisa
actually…US oil production is at it’s highest since Obama, but I’m sure there’s a way to deny him that achievement. either way we must not ignore that eventually we must go to renewable energy…it has to happen, why wait till it’s too late? Please read this link to explain the facts about high food prices and peak oil…thank you.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
 
I’ve noticed these various “fact checks” have turned into opinion sites that stray far from just checking the facts. They lose all credibility when they do that.
This morning NPR must have been LIVID!!! They couldn’t report on anything Ryan said last night without interjecting opinions and “facts.” Threw in little “hehe’s” and innuendo. It was way beneath them.
 
actually…US oil production is at it’s highest since Obama, but I’m sure there’s a way to deny him that achievement. either way we must not ignore that eventually we must go to renewable energy…it has to happen, why wait till it’s too late? Please read this link to explain the facts about high food prices and peak oil…thank you.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
True, but not enough to meet demand. That’s a problem.
 
I’ve noticed these various “fact checks” have turned into opinion sites that stray far from just checking the facts. They lose all credibility when they do that.
I’ve found them to be pretty factual and non bias. As far as oil production rising in the US isn’t necessarily due to Obamas policies and they don’t hide the facts about it.
 
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