Paul Ryan!!

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SeekNFind said:
They absolutely do. While they call Obama “food-stamp president” they fail to also mention that **whites receive the majority of welfare in this country **although the perception is that it’s minorities.
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That’s exactly why calling Obama the “food stamp president” is not racial politics. Only Democrats think that. Republicans know that welfare and food stamps aren’t racial issues. 🤷
 
followyourbliss said:
From a new CNN religion blog (written by a Catholic scholar):

"Polling numbers released Friday by CNN about the White House contraception dust-up illustrate this: Only 11% of Catholics polled said they should always obey official church teachings on moral issues like birth control and abortion.

To put this differently, 88% of Catholics in the poll said that it’s OK for Catholics to make up their own minds about these moral issues. That represents a growing trend. In 1992 only 70% supported the “make up their own minds” argument. In 1999 it was 80%.

Today’s Catholics are picky and even suspicious about political signals from the institutional church."
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troll.
 
rlg94086 said:
That’s exactly why calling Obama the “food stamp president” is not racial politics. Only Democrats think that. Republicans know that welfare and food stamps aren’t racial issues. 🤷
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It’s a silent dog whistle only liberals can hear - Charles Krauthammer
 
SeekNFind said:
They absolutely do. While they call Obama “food-stamp president” they fail to also mention that whites receive the majority of welfare in this country although the perception is that it’s minorities.
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Strawman alert. Whites are the majority in this country and thus the majority receiving food stamps and SS and TANF and and and. DUH!

What you need to look at is the PERCENTAGE of each ethnic group that demonstrates some kind of trend or characteristic. So while I believe 40% of all births are out of wedlock in this country, 70% of African American births are out of wedlock. See the difference?

Obama CLEARLY fosters a culture of dependence. My charitable side wants to believe that he truly cares about the poor. My pragmatic side says he’s buying votes. It’s not simply the percentages of folks on food stamps its the relaxation of the rules, expansion of the program, the built in pimping of various government programs…sign up for one and you get a pile of forms for other programs, marketing school children to convince their parents to sign up for food stamps because schools with a higher percentage of food stamp parents get more money. How about relaxing the work requirement for welfare? Yes I think bed rest and massages count as work don’t you? There is a CLEAR philisophical bent toward government dependence and IMO government control of our lives.

Follow the money and you will see the real story.

Lisa
 
So are some of you suggesting that a Ryan pick will help Romney pick up independent votes? I don’t see this happening.

Romney should have taken a safe choice- say Pawlenty.

That’s why Obama supporters are generally happy with the Ryan choice. I know I am.
 
DeSanto said:
I am sorry but, I am a Catholic and I don’t think those are the only issues. If you truly believe Romney is going to end abortion you are sadly mistaken. Even if abortion was illegal it would still exist. Let’s not stick our heads in the sand. The only true end to abortion is the conversion of souls to Christ not by some political legislation. The fact that the church tells me to vote for a pro-lifer or go to hell, fine…I won’t be voting. I will not vote for Romney just because he lies and says he’s against abortion just to get my vote.
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And you think the Democrats are going to eliminate poverty? By your barometer, that’s the only acceptable goal.

Jesus said the poor would always be with us. He never said anything about mothers and fathers who choose to kill the children in the womb always being with us.
 
Seeker1961 said:
um…I get that you don’t like the current President, but to say that anyone has caused “more harm to this country than Osama ever dreamed of” is a bit over the top.
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He’s right. The long term ramifications of any President’s actions, especially terrible President’s, are far worse the long term affects of Pearl Harbor or 9/11.

But since it isn’t quantifiable. not worth a debate.
 
ringil said:
So are some of you suggesting that a Ryan pick will help Romney pick up independent votes? I don’t see this happening.

Romney should have taken a safe choice- say Pawlenty.

That’s why Obama supporters are generally happy with the Ryan choice. I know I am.
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“Moderate” Republicans and Tea Parties are also generally happy with the pick.

We now have an even starker contrast to “You didn’t build it”.
 
ringil said:
So are some of you suggesting that a Ryan pick will help Romney pick up independent votes? I don’t see this happening.

Romney should have taken a safe choice- say Pawlenty.

That’s why Obama supporters are generally happy with the Ryan choice. I know I am.
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I, a conservative, was happy with the Biden choice. Many other conservatives were, too. So? I think the polls (for what they are worth) suggest that “independent” voters are more fiscally conservative than socially. If Ryan can help Romney frame the fiscal debate/issues, (which he should be able to do), then the independents should be drawn in. Will that happen? Who knows. Pawlenty? Yeah, “safe” is one word for it. Dull. Boring. Not very popular among the conservative base (just like Romney). Also, less experience with federal government issues. Those issues are the important ones.
 
salusanimarum17 said:
I, a conservative, was happy with the Biden choice. Many other conservatives were, too. So? I think the polls (for what they are worth) suggest that “independent” voters are more fiscally conservative than socially. If Ryan can help Romney frame the fiscal debate/issues, (which he should be able to do), then the independents should be drawn in. Will that happen? Who knows. Pawlenty? Yeah, “safe” is one word for it. Dull. Boring. Not very popular among the conservative base (just like Romney). Also, less experience with federal government issues. Those issues are the important ones.
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Exactly. Every poll indicates independents are fiscally conservative and socially indifferent (or even slightly more liberal). But the passions lies in the realm of economic security.

Ryan may be socially conservative, but he is known for his fiscal conservatism and plans to fix the budget. He’s a very appealing pick as a VP, moreso than Palin, Biden, or even Lieberman.
 
He_Man said:
Exactly. Every poll indicates independents are fiscally conservative and socially indifferent (or even slightly more liberal). But the passions lies in the realm of economic security.

Ryan may be socially conservative, but he is known for his fiscal conservatism and plans to fix the budget. He’s a very appealing pick as a VP, moreso than Palin, Biden, or even Lieberman.
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I think the other characteristic Ryan exhibits is COURAGE. How many mealy mouthed, finger in the wind politicians would NEVER have had the courage to put forth a budget and concepts regarding entitlements. He’s willing to lead and willing to face direct and somewhat hateful criticism. The nasty cracks on this list are nothing compared to some of the remarks and comments from the DNC and its troops.

Contrast this strength with Obama who I noted from DAY ONE was a weak, vascilating and timid legislator. When a controversial vote came up he voted “present.” He has no heart…not a heart filled with love nor a heart of courage…remember the base of courage and heart are the same. We have a weak, effete, petty and thin skinned President. Compare that to the strong, clear thinking, willing to endure the slings and arrows Ryan. He never stood down in the face of WICKED and false criticism of his plan. We need someone willing to be a leader and Ryan clearly has the chops. He is a serious man willing to deal with serious problems. But he has an amazing affibility and charm with the most lovely young family. I see this as the whole package and I’m delighted with the pick.

Lisa
 
I’ve seen a few times on EWTN (‘The World Over’), and I think he is an excellent choice.

A lot better than the current ‘catholic’ who is vice president!

GO ROMNEY-RYAN! 👍
 
Marie5890 said:
But it’s not the tea party-ers who will get them the win.

It’s the independents and moderates in the swing states that matter.
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Ryan won 7 terms in a democrat district which Obama won in 2008. He has a record of winning the votes of moderates. 1 in 5 Obama voters voted for Ryan won 65% of the vote in his election
 
_Abyssinia said:
Ryan won 7 terms in a democrat district which Obama won in 2008. He has a record of winning the votes of moderates. 1 in 5 Obama voters voted for Ryan won 65% of the vote in his election
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And, we’ll see how that works out in November. Partisans of both men have many reasons why their man can’t lose and will win. I myself will await the count.
 
gilliam said:
"60 Minutes": Romney, Ryan answer critics of Medicare position

cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57491634/60-minutes-romney-ryan-answer-critics-of-medicare-position/
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Why wasn’t the text I have made bold included in the clip? Why did they leave this out of the clip and edit in the 3 last lines? Was the full quote in the 60 minutes show?
My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida. Our point is we need to preserve their benefits, because government made promises to them that they’ve organized their retirements around. In order to make sure we can do that, you must reform it for those of us who are younger. And we think these reforms are good reforms. That have bipartisan origins. They started from the Clinton commission in the late '90s
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