Paul Ryan!!

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But it’s not the tea party-ers who will get them the win.

It’s the independents and moderates in the swing states that matter.
Not only did Ryan fired up the conservative base, but there is a very good possibility he will help sway independent voters.

Ryan may make independents take notice
*Former top Dem Rooney warns he could sway critical independent voters.

T.J. Rooney, former chairman of the Pennsylvania Democrats who was at the helm in 2008, called on his party to avoid belittling Ryan and take him as a threat.

“This guy is serious, this is not Sarah Palin,” said Rooney, of Bethlehem. “Democrats need to worry more about what we need to do to win, to reinvent the intensity to the extent we can of four years ago.”

In Pennsylvania, a blue-leaning state Romney would love to make competitive, the choice of conservative Ryan as a running mate may sway the undecided independents that Democrats are counting on him turning off.

mcall.com/news/nationworld/pennsylvania/mc-paul-ryan-pennsylvania-20120811,0,3406657.story

Paul Ryan Pick Makes 2012 About ‘Big Ideas,’ Medicare

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Ryan’s big ideas on how to rein in the budget will appeal to independent voters hungry for big ideas while at the same time rallying a base that has long been concerned about the deficit.

And he can help deliver Wisconsin, according to Walker.

“On one hand he has a tremendous way to inspire and pump up the base, you’ll see that going into the convention,” Walker said. “But at the same time – and we’ve seen it for years here in Wisconsin – he has tremendous appeal to swing voters and independent voters in states like Wisconsin that are battleground states because he’s smart and he’s bold, but he listens. And he relates well to voters all across the political spectrum.”

abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/gop-ryan-pick-shows-courage-dems-hope-medicare/story?id=16990183&page=2#.UCjsCKO-0i1

We shall see…
 
It’s very simple, when it comes to abortion and contraception, it is the only issue for a Catholic. If both candidates are pro-life, then we can move on to a discussion about other issues. But number one above all else, according to the constant Teaching of our faith is the life issue. If a candidate is pro-abortion and you vote for him/her, you are committing a grave sin. End of story. The Church has spoken.

God bless.

-Paul
I am sorry but, I am a Catholic and I don’t think those are the only issues. If you truly believe Romney is going to end abortion you are sadly mistaken. Even if abortion was illegal it would still exist. Let’s not stick our heads in the sand. The only true end to abortion is the conversion of souls to Christ not by some political legislation. The fact that the church tells me to vote for a pro-lifer or go to hell, fine…I won’t be voting. I will not vote for Romney just because he lies and says he’s against abortion just to get my vote.
 
Why yours? This is an opinion Forum, and I don’t think that anyone here is a Congressman, whose actions would actually count. We are mostly hard rightists, a number of conservatives, and a sprinkling of liberals. One can predict what folks on the Forum will say before they say it. 🤷
*I was a revolutionary with strong Marxist tendencies in my younger days. At the time I was not attending the Church but later came back to the Catholic Church. As I began to learn more about my faith and read apologetics I became extremely excited at the beauty and truth of the Catholic Church. One could say that I became more orthodox in my thinking - I am uncompromising in my Faith.

In the meantime I found myself becoming more conservative politically. I follow American politics because America does have wide influence. One finds that among Democrats there are more pro-choice people, people who compromise their faith. Look at Nancy Pelosi, Kathleen Sebelius and of course Joe Biden (he recently declared he favours same-sex marriage). How can these people call themselves Catholics is beyond me! Anyway I find myself favouring Republicans more although I still criticize some of them. So I am “Repubublican” in “America” and when I follow the UK politics I find myself favouring Labour more! I would say that once you have been a leftist something stays with you even though you change your politics.

So I do not think one can predict anything insofar as political ideas are concerned!

Cinette*
 
Well … Joe calls him Thomas ***AMERICA! *** :takeoff:

*Jan. 31, 2007 – Biden announces his presidential bid – and calls Obama “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
*

:whacky::love::bounce: -* First one!*
*You should read about how Clarence Thomas was double-crossed by Joe Biden - read his book. Joe Biden is a hypocrite and certainly not a good Catholic. I sometimes suspect that some Catholics remain in the Church because of the beautiful setting for weddings and funerals!! The photographs are enhanced by the beauty of the Churches!!! Look at the funeral of Edward Kennedy and the weddings of the other Kennedys. They are mostly pro-choice and Democrats!

😃 *
 
We know according to the scriptures, the early Christians distributed wealth according to need and not only according to business savvy.
Some did and some didn’t. We do know there were wealthy Romans, for example, who aided in the support of the early Church. As far as we know, they remained wealthy.

And Jesus did not say the Good Samaritan was obliged to divide his goods among all the people in the world, or even among those in Israel. He provided for the person in most proximate need, and then only to the extent of the injured man’s need.
 
I am sorry but, I am a Catholic and I don’t think those are the only issues. If you truly believe Romney is going to end abortion you are sadly mistaken. Even if abortion was illegal it would still exist. Let’s not stick our heads in the sand. The only true end to abortion is the conversion of souls to Christ not by some political legislation. The fact that the church tells me to vote for a pro-lifer or go to hell, fine…I won’t be voting. I will not vote for Romney just because he lies and says he’s against abortion just to get my vote.
“Birther” stuff. Totally based on one person’s subjective suspicions. There is no more reason to believe this than there is to believe Obama intends to open the ports of L.A. and San Francisco to troop transports from China. Probably there are some people who believe he will, but just because they believe it, it doesn’t mean it’s true.
 
The Tea Party started as a reaction to Bush’s TARP and out of the ashes of Ron Paul’s 2008 presidential campaign. Alot of people believe that the Tea Party started as a resistance reaction to Obama, but the roots were laid during the Bush Admininstration, and both Obama and McCain were onboard with TARP, it opposed them too. They didn’t start organizing and supporting rallies until 2009, when they adopted the "TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party after Rick Santelli’s rant on the floor of the Chicago Climate Exchange.
*If you are “Catholic in Faith only” then you must be in full communion with the Church, faithful to her teachings and with a good knowledge of Catholic history.

Would you kindly give me a short explanation of what the Tea Party is all about?

Thank you

God bless
Cinette:) *
 
*If you are “Catholic in Faith only” then you must be in full communion with the Church, faithful to her teachings and with a good knowledge of Catholic history.

Would you kindly give me a short explanation of what the Tea Party is all about?

Thank you

God bless
Cinette:) *
I think its wrong to say the tea party has one view point on things. All they really are is a collection of people who are tired of government over spending and tired of the way government is treating us. It is a mix of all kind of people. Pro choicers Pro Lifers, Dems GOP Independent, Libertarians, not so many liberals. But the tea party has never taken up any offical stances really other than stop increasing the size of government.

plus we should look at someones view points and not the party they are involved with.
 
I don’t think what he says in a later interview was out of convenience…
Call me a cynic if you will, but the timing of that rejection after ALL that praise is just a little too convenient for me. Especially since it coincided with his name being floated as one of the new rising young stars in the GOP. He and his handlers knew they had to clean up the Ayn Rand love so that the Christian right would not reject him. And then, what an amazing thing! An interview comes out with him putting Thomas Aquinas in her place!! Who would have ever thought? :eek:

I’ve been following this guy for a while, and I do NOT like what I have seen. I also have friends in Wisconsin who will be very happy for him to leave their state should the ticket win.

As always, your mileage may vary. 😉
 
*If you are “Catholic in Faith only” then you must be in full communion with the Church, faithful to her teachings and with a good knowledge of Catholic history.

Would you kindly give me a short explanation of what the Tea Party is all about?

Thank you

God bless
Cinette:) *
The intial purpose of the Tea Party was a reaction to the government bailouts that started under the Bush administration, when he said “I violated free-market principles to save the free market.” Like…:confused: It would be like saying “I cheated on my wife to save my marriage.”

All of us in what would become the Tea Party understood what Barack Obama was all about. He was raised by communist sympatizers, studied the works of socialist/communists (Saul Alinski), and surrounded himself with communists and socialists as advisers. There was little doubt that his policies, in spite of his populist message of unity and "new politics’ knew exactly what he meant when he said he would fundamentally change America. It would be deficit spending to an extent that the world has never seen before and an expansion of entitlements of similar scope. His allies in the House and Senate, with control of both chambers and no compunction about spending money we don’t have as political payback for its pet groups, did exactly as expected. That is why they were thrown out of the House wholesale in 2010.

So, what is the Tea Party about. It is about political activism to ensure that the Congress, who are supposed to be doing the “will of the people” actual in fact do that, in particular with regards to fiscal responsibility.
 
Can you imagine had a Romney with Ryan by his side been Commander in Chief and had gotten Bin Laden, we’d never be hearing the end of it.
Sure we would. It was a big deal. The problem for Obama is that he can only kill Osama once, and now Obama is causing more harm to the country than Osama ever dreamed of.
 
Sure we would. It was a big deal. The problem for Obama is that he can only kill Osama once, and now Obama is causing more harm to the country than Osama ever dreamed of.
um…I get that you don’t like the current President, but to say that anyone has caused “more harm to this country than Osama ever dreamed of” is a bit over the top.
 
Call me a cynic if you will, but the timing of that rejection after ALL that praise is just a little too convenient for me. Especially since it coincided with his name being floated as one of the new rising young stars in the GOP. He and his handlers knew they had to clean up the Ayn Rand love so that the Christian right would not reject him. And then, what an amazing thing! An interview comes out with him putting Thomas Aquinas in her place!! Who would have ever thought? :eek:

I’ve been following this guy for a while, and I do NOT like what I have seen. I also have friends in Wisconsin who will be very happy for him to leave their state should the ticket win.

As always, your mileage may vary. 😉
Those 37% who vote against him don’t like him. Not a surprise. Regarding Rand, I don’t see the problem. Put his comments in the proper context. It’s like people saying Dorothy Day was not really Catholic because she had more “socialist” leanings in her economics. So, will you say she was a Marxist/Leninist and not Catholic? I doubt it. I couldn’t disagree with her more on that but I would never question her faith. Rand had an influence on Ryan’s economic and government outlook, not his faith.

If you can *ever *find a time when Ryan was asked those questions (re: Rand and Catholic faith) and he said “I follow Rand, not Jesus.”, let me know.
 
Romney supported Wall Street bailouts–fact
Romney belongs to a cult called Morminism–fact
Romney started mandated health care in Massachusetts–fact
Romney supported Obama and Congress’ decision to give the president the authority to imprison or execute citizens suspected of terrorism without due process–fact
Paul Ryan was heavily influenced by Ayn Rand’s economic views who was an atheist who was critical of JPII (someone who supported free market principles)–fact.

That being said, I’m voting for them because Obama is a huge promoter of the culture of death. Romney and Paul are pro-life. All other issues pale in comparison.
Nice tolerant rant you posted. 👍

You forgot the line about eating kittens for lunch…
 
Those 37% who vote against him don’t like him. Not a surprise. Regarding Rand, I don’t see the problem. Put his comments in the proper context. It’s like people saying Dorothy Day was not really Catholic because she had more “socialist” leanings in her economics. So, will you say she was a Marxist/Leninist and not Catholic? I doubt it. I couldn’t disagree with her more on that but I would never question her faith. Rand had an influence on Ryan’s economic and government outlook, not his faith.

If you can *ever *find a time when Ryan was asked those questions (re: Rand and Catholic faith) and he said “I follow Rand, not Jesus.”, let me know.
I see her philosophy at work in his budget and I do not think it is the best for our citizens. I read her works in graduate school and I found it about as big of a “gospel of Self” as anything I’ve ever read. One of my classmates put it this way: “I’ve got mine who cares about anyone else-ism”

As I said-your mileage may vary.
 
I see her philosophy at work in his budget and I do not think it is the best for our citizens. I read her works in graduate school and I found it about as big of a “gospel of Self” as anything I’ve ever read. One of my classmates put it this way: “I’ve got mine who cares about anyone else-ism”

As I said-your mileage may vary.
As apposed to the current democrat mantra of “I’ve took yours who cares about anyone else-ism"?
 
um…I get that you don’t like the current President, but to say that anyone has caused “more harm to this country than Osama ever dreamed of” is a bit over the top.
OK, it was meant to be provacative. Osama engineered the killing of 3000 Americans on 9/11/01, mostly with his own money. Obama wants to continue the abortion deaths of 3000 Americans every day and he wants to do it with your money and mine. By that measure Obama is 365 times as bad as Osama.
 
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