Pennsylvania: Nearly 60,000 Mail Ballots Unaccounted For In Trump-Heavy County

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Yet more potential voter fraud going on . . . .

Pennsylvania: Nearly 60,000 Mail Ballots Unaccounted For In Trump-Heavy County​

Posted at 8:30 pm on October 10, 2020 by Scott Hounsell

In Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, a county that Trump won by over 30 points in 2016, has had a “snafu” in the distribution of ballots. The ballots, which were supposed to be sent out this week to voters, never arrived. . .

. . . . County officials blamed the lost ballots on an independent contractor responsible for distributing the ballots, saying that the ballots were not lost, rather they were never sent out. County officials stated that the issue was resolved . . . .

. . . We all know that if this were a Democrat-heavy county this would have made national news. Trump won Pennsylvania by about 45,000 votes so a 60,000 vote alleged mistake could decide the outcome of the election for the State of Pennsylvania. There should be more scrutiny placed on the mail vendor, Mid-West Direct, to ascertain exactly what may have led to the problem in the first place. It is not clear if Mid-West Direct only processes the ballots for mailing as provided by the county or whether or not they produce ballots and mail them . . .
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I agree that misplaced ballots are not examples of fraud. Incompetence by a subcontractor, yes. Unless someone was personally losing ballots for a nefarious reason, this is simply a matter of tracing where they are then redelivery.

However, putting up non authorized mailing ballot boxes is fraud and is being investigated as such.
 
PattyIt . . . .
I agree that misplaced ballots are not examples of fraud.
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What if they were not “misplaced”?

Recall. There was 60,000 of them in an overwhelming pro-Trump county.

Is there at least the POTENTIAL for fraud a possibility here PattyIt?
 
I would answer that until we know what happened, we are speculating and assuming everything from nefarious to completely accidental reasons. Until we know more, it’s uncharitable In my mind to speculate. Right now, I would only say it’s interesting. I tend to not jump to evil conclusions when incompetence is every bit as likely. I’ll wait and see.
 
PattyIt . . .
I would answer that until we know what happened, we are speculating . . .
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But you already did!

You ruled out POTENTIAL for fraud and assumed they were “misplaced”.
 
I ruled out nothing. I don’t know! You don’t either. Do you prefer it to be fraud because it’s Trump country? If it was in Biden country would you also jump to fraud? Perhaps you see fraud as more likely no matter what or where it happens? I tend to want to give the benefit of the doubt…until I know more…to human incompetence as it’s the more probable of outcomes usually. Why jump to malicious intent when humans are more widely known for incompetence and errors?

Why, it almost sounds like you would prefer fraud! Is that what you want me to buy into, too?
 
You said they were “misplaced”.

Yet the article said . . . .
County officials blamed the lost ballots on an independent contractor responsible for distributing the ballots, saying that the ballots were not lost, rather they were never sent out.
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Agsin. As to the “misplaced” . . . .
the ballots were not lost, rather they were never sent out
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I want to know WHY the ballots were never sent out.

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The contractor also told the Government that they had been sent out when they weren’t.

Then even after they said they have been sent out a second time, citizens were still not receiving their ballots.


Sixty THOUSAND is a lot of vote ballots to “snafu”.

For me I would have to be credulous not to call for an investigation. I think an investigation needs to be done.

Why? Because of either fraud, or potential for fraud.

I stand by everything I posted.
 
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Pattylt said:
fraud
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You have to admit that it’s quite interesting that the Democratic Party appears to prefer voting methods that are susceptible to higher levels of fraud: mail-in ballots, open borders, voting without identification…
 
Not to mention early voting.As with all thing the left proposes,it just gets out of control.Early voting,initially was two weeks prior to Election Day,now it three months ahead in many states.How convenient for the Dems,think this latest scandal re JB and his son🙄
 
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While ballots are mailed early this trying to assure those that are supposed to get them, do get them, there is no requirement that they be mailed in that early. Usually the cutoff date for mailing them is several days before voting. Some states may require a bit earlier than that but I don’t know of any that require they be mailed months before election. Those that vote that early must be sure that they won’t be changing their minds.

We’ve had mail in voting here for years. It shows no increased level of fraud. Just because people can sit around and think of ways to commit fraud doesn’t mean it happens.
 
Jeanne_S said:
A Dem mantra is Vote Early and Often !🤨
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Yet the majority of fraud has been performed by the Repubs. No need to imply that the Dems want fraud any more than Repubs do. No one WANTS fraud. That’s just silly.
 
Car3 to cite where the republicans have been fraudulent re the elections.?
 
Most recent is Steve Watkins.
Watkins, a GOP congressman from Kansas, was charged this week with three counts of voter fraud.

Also…
Just days before Watkins was charged, a West Virginia postal carrier pleaded guilty to mail and election fraud, confessing he switched the political affiliation on several ballots from Democrat to Republican.

• In 2018, when current Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp was secretary of state, he threw out 53,000 voter registration applications, mostly from Black voters, because the names weren’t an “exact match” with other records. It was a tactic straight out of the Jim Crow era, when white officials used an array of technicalities to prevent African Americans from voting.

• To corrupt the 2018 general election, North Carolina Republicans hired a felon, Leslie McCrae Dowless, who assembled a team that went door-to-door to mostly Black voters in a rural county to “help” them with their ballots — then allegedly forged signatures, wrote in candidate choices and trashed some ballots.

• Wisconsin Republicans prevented postponement of this year’s primary election and extension of mail-in voting despite the COVID-19 pandemic, then rigged the system so that only five of 180 polling sites were open in Milwaukee. Black and Hispanic voters were disproportionately affected, but turned out in strong numbers in defiance of the GOP.

• Last year in Ohio, two Republicans were charged with distributing phony sample ballots that officials say were designed to trick voters into believing they’d already cast genuine ballots.
 
Duly noted…Look like a few republicans have adopted the habit from the Dems.They have been doing it for decades😳
 
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Jeanne_S said:
For the most part .Yes I think the republicans are far more trustworthy than the Dems who have a history of stealing elections.Think Mayor Daley,etc
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That Mayor Daley (the elder) has been dead since 1976. He was a product of old time inner city “machine politics” that don’t really exist anymore. Also, he was a conservative Catholic. His approach to protestors is probably much more in line with what Donald Trump would want than what modern day liberal mayors would approve. Daley had no qualms about cracking skulls.
 
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