Perry backs constitutional change for school prayer

[gilliam]

(CNN) - Texas Gov. Rick Perry called Sunday for a constitutional amendment to allow prayer in public schools.
Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican presidential hopeful went a step further than his previous calls for the Supreme Court to reverse its 1962 decision that banned organized prayer in public schools.

Perry said he would support “a constitutional amendment that would allow our children to pray in school any time that they would like.”
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[oldcelt]

Perry said he would support “a constitutional amendment that would allow our children to pray in school any time that they would like.”

That would be lovely…bet there would be plenty of time for class work. Prayer would quickly become the way out of everything.

Pandering to his base is not going to help him…Perry is done.

John

 

[Soulstorm]

That would be lovely…bet there would be plenty of time for class work. Prayer would quickly become the way out of everything.

Pandering to his base is not going to help him…Perry is done.

Agreed, I really hope Newt Gingrinch becomes the winner of the primaries. This along with Perry’s “Strong” commercial have essentially lost him every vote outside of the fundamentalist crowd.

 

[CMatt25]

(CNN) - Texas Gov. Rick Perry called Sunday for a constitutional amendment to allow prayer in public schools.
Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican presidential hopeful went a step further than his previous calls for the Supreme Court to reverse its 1962 decision that banned organized prayer in public schools.

Perry said he would support “a constitutional amendment that would allow our children to pray in school any time that they would like.”
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/11/perry-backs-constitutional-change-for-school-prayer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_politicalticker+%28Blog%3A+Political+Ticker%29

I watched the FOX News interview today where Perry was questioned about a campaign ad. Chris Wallace wondered exactly how Barack Obama has declared a war on religion because of no organized prayer in public schools when it was a SCOTUS decision made half a century ago. I thought it was wise for Wallace to point out there have been Republican Presidents in the last half century as well.

 

[Nec5]

No amendment was ever necessary until 9 people decided they had to power to twist the constitution to say something it never did. Therefore, no amendment is needed now, just the removal and stripping down of the judicial branch overreaching.

 

[Cider]

No amendment was ever necessary until 9 people decided they had to power to twist the constitution to say something it never did. Therefore, no amendment is needed now, just the removal and stripping down of the judicial branch overreaching.

exactly

 

[havana1]

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

 

[CMatt25]

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

Exactly

 

[Gift_from_God]

He honestly wants to put in the Constitution prayer in public schools? There have been so many constitutional amendments proposed and very few have passed, not to mention it is very difficult to amend the US Constitution, so it’s very unlikely that it would ever pass in the first place. Praying in school isn’t even something that should be in the Constitution anyway. That’s a matter of policy, not constitutional law

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

Precisely. I wouldn’t want my Catholic kids to be forced to recite non-Catholic prayers, so I don’t think we should force non-Catholics and non-Christians to recite our prayers. It’s a matter of ideological consistency

 

[new_User1357246]

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

Could not agree more.

 

[Cider]

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

Who said teachers would lead prayers?

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

(CNN) - Texas Gov. Rick Perry called Sunday for a constitutional amendment to allow prayer in public schools.
Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” the Republican presidential hopeful went a step further than his previous calls for the Supreme Court to reverse its 1962 decision that banned organized prayer in public schools.

Perry said he would support “a constitutional amendment that would allow our children to pray in school any time that they would like.”
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/11/perry-backs-constitutional-change-for-school-prayer/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_politicalticker+%28Blog%3A+Political+Ticker%29

We already have a Consititutional Amendment that guarantees the right of every person to express his or her religious convictions, of which prayer is a part.

 

[zjl56]

Agreed, I really hope Newt Gingrinch becomes the winner of the primaries. This along with Perry’s “Strong” commercial have essentially lost him every vote outside of the fundamentalist crowd.

His ad campaigns, atleast for the radio seem to be a bit more intelligent and shall you say thought provocative than before, but, he had two months of time where he was the “anti romney” and sort of blew it in bumbling debate performances. If by a miracle he is able to rebound, he could prove to be the third guy who lengthens the race into February and March before the nomination is completely decided.

 

[BVM_1221]

(CNN) -

Perry said he would support "a constitutional amendment that would allow our children to pray in school any time that they would like

Ummm…children can currently pray in school anytime they want to, as much as they want to. :yup:

The problem is ORGANIZED prayer. One wonders WHY it is so important for some people to have organized prayer. Or is it organized CHRISTIAN prayer? With or without the mention of the Trinity?

 

[Trader]

What if it’s a Muslim teacher leading school kids in Muslim prayer?

What if it’s a Wiccan/pagan teacher leading school kids in pagan prayers?

Such an amendment presumes it’ll be Christian prayer - and what, for that matter, about anti-Catholic Protestant teachers leading school kids in prayers?

The fact of the matter is, school kids (like anyone else) can already pray any time they want.

I agree 100%. We just need to enforce the original meaning of the Constitution instead of listening to extremist educators who think they can punish a valedictorian for thanking God in her commencement speech.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Perry was just endorsed by Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana.

 

[irishpatrick]

I always wondered why people fight a moment of silence (say 2-5 minutes) at the start of each school day. The students could pray quietly to themselves, or do nothing at all, and each student would pray according to their own faith traditions. I have never understood why that is not a solid compromise position.

Most kids would not do anything–some would pray. Either way, losing a couple minutes won’t hurt anything.

 

[SouthCatholic]

I always wondered why people fight a moment of silence (say 2-5 minutes) at the start of each school day. The students could pray quietly to themselves, or do nothing at all, and each student would pray according to their own faith traditions. I have never understood why that is not a solid compromise position.

Most kids would not do anything–some would pray. Either way, losing a couple minutes won’t hurt anything.

They are also free to spend 2-5 minutes in prayer before they leave their homes. Why is it necessary for the school to accommodate something that can easily be done at home?

 

[irishpatrick]

They are also free to spend 2-5 minutes in prayer before they leave their homes. Why is it necessary for the school to accommodate something that can easily be done at home?

Because faith has been a foundation of this nation, and should not be cast aside in public settings so easily. I can understand why some would not want Christian specific prayer since not everyone in public schools are Christians–yet 2-5 minutes of silence hurts no person, and can end-up doing a great deal of good.

“In God We Trust” does actually mean something, and we should never feel ashamed of that.

Further, one needs to ask (honestly), have things in our nation, and in our public schools, gotten better or worse since prayer and the commandments were removed (from a moral pov).

 

[oldcelt]

Ummm…children can currently pray in school anytime they want to, as much as they want to.

The problem is ORGANIZED prayer. One wonders WHY it is so important for some people to have organized prayer. Or is it organized CHRISTIAN prayer? With or without the mention of the Trinity?

Thank you…prayer can never be banned…but those who want to use a public institution to promote their beliefs are not happy with that fact.

John