Perry orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls

[astegallrnc]

some research estimates a many as 90% of people carry it - the most conservative estimate that I know of is about 50%

The stats are staggering regarding infection. “At least 50 percent of sexually active men and women acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives and by age 50, at least 80 percent of women will have acquired genital HPV infection”. However, current research finds that most HPV goes away on its own.

everyone who carries the virus will develop genital herpes

HSV-1 and HSV-2 cause genital herpes.

everyone who develops cervical cancer will have the HPV virus.

Although genital HPV is linked to 99.7% of cervical cancers, your statement that “everyone who develops cervical cancer will have the HPV virus”. I have a friend who just has a hysterectomy after testing negative for HPV.

Vaccination programmes are not really about protecting the individual. They are more about what is called herd immunity. This is where if we greatly reduce the chances of about 80% of a population from carrying a germ, then that germ

Mandatory vaccine progams for entering US schools were developed to protect students from diseases transmitted through casual contact. Obviously, the mandatory vaccine programs have evolved.

 

[astegallrnc]

Although genital HPV is linked to 99.7% of cervical cancers, your statement that “everyone who develops cervical cancer will have the HPV virus”.

Incomplete thought there… sorry.

Although genital HPV is linked to 99.7% of cervical cancers, your statement that “everyone who develops cervical cancer will have the HPV virus” may not be accurate.

 

[hasikelee]

OK, I said I was not going to post because I do not know anything about Catholics, But I am from Texas, and this contraversial subject I know about! It makes my blood boil! I work in the legal field and know a little about the law. This drug has not been proven to be safe, the testing methods were suspicious, there have been no long term studies to determine its affect on these girls or the affect it will have on any of their future offspring. There was a push to have this fast tracked. Because of its approval being processed in this manner if anything goes wrong with your child you have no legal recourse. Plain English, You cannot sue, Merck cannot be held legally responsible. The FDA want all 11 year old girls to receive this vaccine. The fact is statisticly speaking, 99% of the population of the United States will NEVER get cervical cancer.

Another fact, it has already caused great harm. A reactive aluminum containing placebo was used in the trial studies, what can happen is the placebo may artificially increase the appearance of safety of an experimental drug or vaccine in a clinical trial. Gardasil contains 225 mcg of aluminum and, although aluminum adjuvants have been used in vaccines for decades, they were never tested for safety in clinical trials. The FDA and Merck never disclosed this, The FDA are the ones that gave MERCK their blessing. You have to ask, Why would they risk the lives of those little girls? Normally saline is used in the placebos, it does not cause nerve damage like aluminum and does not give unfair test results.

Little girls as young as the age of 9 were given this vaccine. I would never a nine year old of mine to be a guina pig. EVERY single child given this vaccine did report side affects, from as mild as swelling, fever, irratation, to more serious side affects reported, such as Juvenile arthritus, Lupus, and 17 DEATHS!!! It was discovered that when given in combination with other vaccines, the risk was ven higher for more serious side affects. Top doctors in both pediatrics and gynocology asked that this not be approved. Reality is, until there is a long term study done, No ONE CAN give a finding.

Amen, Auriel! This is exactly my point of view! This vaccine has been pushed through so quickly and all the results are so tainted that I would 100% stay away from any support of it or ever let my DD get it.

Whenever people have to manipulate science and facts, they are not presenting something good to you!

 

[2shelbys]

There appears to be a lot of talk here, most of it rubbish. You only have to have sex once to catch HPV; a person does not have to be promiscuous. People make mistakes.

HPV is a virus that is very common; some research estimates a many as 90% of people carry it - the most conservative estimate that I know of is about 50%. Not everyone who carries the virus will develop genital herpes, so many many people do not know that they carry it. Also, yes many people with HPV will not develop cervical cancer, but everyone who develops cervical cancer will have the HPV virus. So removing the HPV virus will remove cervical cancer.

Vaccination programmes are not really about protecting the individual. They are more about what is called herd immunity. This is where if we greatly reduce the chances of about 80% of a population from carrying a germ, then that germ will disappear for ever.

This vaccine is an opportunity to remove cervical cancer for ever. In the way other diseases such as polio have been erradicated.

I am sorry Cecelia, but you are very mis-informed. First, Polio was not wiped out by the vaccine. Nor was measles or most (if not all) of the other diseases that vaccines get the credit for. If you look at the facts you find that polio had run it’s course and all but vanished BEFORE the vaccine became available. When the vaccine went into use the number of cases and deaths actually INCREASED for a time before returning to the same rate as before the vaccine became available.

The HPV vaccine is not even remotely close to being an oportunity to “remove cervical cancer”. First, HPV is not the only cause of cervical cancer. The presence of it in someone with the cancer does not mean it was the cause and you are wrong in saying that everyone who gets the cancer has HPV. Also, there are over 100 strains of HPV and 13 of them are linked to cancer. This vaccine is only “thought to treat” 4 of them. There has been no testing to verify whether or not the vaccine will offer immunity beyond 2-4 years if it offers any at all and there has been no real investigation into possible harmful side effects. You have fallen for the drug company line. They have not proven that this vaccine is safe but they have proven that it is not going to do away with anything. Sorry, but for us and our daughter, when you do not know how harmful it may be and you also do not know whether or not it will work for for long or if it will even work at all, it is not even close to worth the risk. If you do some research into the true track record of vaccines as far as the risk/benefit comparison is concerned you will understand why we feel this way. Here is a good place to start:

whale.to/vaccines.html

 

[astegallrnc]

Also, there are over 100 strains of HPV and 13 of them are linked to cancer. This vaccine is only “thought to treat” 4 of them

Please know that I am don’t mean to nitpick, but I can’t help myself.

There are approximately 40 (some sources report 30) strains of HPV that infect the genitals. The vaccine may prevent only** 2 (16 & 18) of the 13 high risk strains**. The other two strains (6 & 11) are associated with 90% of genital warts. The vaccine is not a treatment for genital HPV.

 

[2shelbys]

Please know that I am don’t mean to nitpick, but I can’t help myself.

There are approximately 40 (some sources report 30) strains of HPV that infect the genitals. The vaccine may prevent only** 2 (16 & 18) of the 13 high risk strains**. The other two strains (6 & 11) are associated with 90% of genital warts. The vaccine is not a treatment for genital HPV.

You are absolutely right that the vaccine is not a treatment for genital HPV, much less for cervical cancer, but apparantly the research you have seen is even more damaging than that which I have seen.

 

[astegallrnc]

I should add that strains 16 & 18 are linked to ~70% of cervical cancers and ~60% of the 600,000 cervical pre-cancerous.

 

[2shelbys]

I should add that strains 16 & 18 are linked to ~70% of cervical cancers and ~60% of the 600,000 cervical pre-cancerous.

Those are very similar to the numbers I have seen. Now, if they continue to test this vaccine and are able to prove that it is safe and that it does indeed provide not only immunity but lasting immunity to these strains (none of which has been proven so far) then they can start talking about reducing the number of cases of cervical cancer which would be a wonderful thing, but talk of wiping it out will still be dishonest.