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dvdjs
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I think the request is pointless. The idea of expressing hatred has been overused and over imagined to the point of meaninglessness. Hate here has come to mean little more than “words-I-don’t like”
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dvdjs
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Are you suggesting that calling someone Cheeto is evidence of hate?Well we have members who think it’s ok to call Trump ‘Cheeto
Do you really think that? Can you really not discern the inherent difference?I guess by that standard it would be acceptable to give Obama a nickname referencing his skin color?
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Jeanne_S
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However you are the one making accusations of hatred shown to,Obama by members on the forum,not I
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PoliticoIAm
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To many commenters here.
Wow. You all have your opinions. Am sorry we are in disagreement. Man-child Trump is the person who is dividing our country to the hilt…
Pres O accomplished many, many things in his first year of office. In case people don’t remember, the GOP obsrructed Pres. O for 8 years and still do. He did a pretty darn, good job even w/o their help. Perhaps some people here should research his many accomplishments? Pres. O was not like Trump in that he did not have to brag about all he accomplished. Now that is a leader! We know that Trump is the class “braggart in chief” amongst many other names which I wont say here. Since Trump now has free rein with no one to report too not even his adm. how would that be for other presidents if they acted as Trump is doing. Trump disgraces our allies but praises dictators and thugs. That has to come from the time he was married to Ivana in which she said in divocre cout that Trump read many book about Hitler and other dictators. He kept them by his nightstand and read those books most nights.
Healthcare, which now we have learned most recently,most majority of people like what they have at present and do not want their healtchare to changed.
Agreed. It has been said that Pres. O had “lied” (strong word) to re: “You can keep your doctor.” That is also not the true facts. GOP siezed upon a snippet and an evolving process at that point. As some remember, the GOP hated Pres. O so much they would attack him for no reason at all just for talking points. That wordage was taken out of context. If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the insurance companies. That is what originally happened to put it in a nutshell. No matter, the media just ran with that narrative.
7 Sorrows…Do not get where you called Pres Obama a “bully.” That was quite the opposite.
Aside…Mostly today, America is very embarassed how Trump has handled his show of ignorance on the world stage – London.
Thank you.
PIA, Friday the 13th
Wow. You all have your opinions. Am sorry we are in disagreement. Man-child Trump is the person who is dividing our country to the hilt…
Pres O accomplished many, many things in his first year of office. In case people don’t remember, the GOP obsrructed Pres. O for 8 years and still do. He did a pretty darn, good job even w/o their help. Perhaps some people here should research his many accomplishments? Pres. O was not like Trump in that he did not have to brag about all he accomplished. Now that is a leader! We know that Trump is the class “braggart in chief” amongst many other names which I wont say here. Since Trump now has free rein with no one to report too not even his adm. how would that be for other presidents if they acted as Trump is doing. Trump disgraces our allies but praises dictators and thugs. That has to come from the time he was married to Ivana in which she said in divocre cout that Trump read many book about Hitler and other dictators. He kept them by his nightstand and read those books most nights.
Healthcare, which now we have learned most recently,most majority of people like what they have at present and do not want their healtchare to changed.
Agreed. It has been said that Pres. O had “lied” (strong word) to re: “You can keep your doctor.” That is also not the true facts. GOP siezed upon a snippet and an evolving process at that point. As some remember, the GOP hated Pres. O so much they would attack him for no reason at all just for talking points. That wordage was taken out of context. If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the insurance companies. That is what originally happened to put it in a nutshell. No matter, the media just ran with that narrative.
7 Sorrows…Do not get where you called Pres Obama a “bully.” That was quite the opposite.
Aside…Mostly today, America is very embarassed how Trump has handled his show of ignorance on the world stage – London.
Thank you.
PIA, Friday the 13th
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robertmidwest
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Trump is the person who is dividing our country to the hilt…
Trump is dividing France?Good. Keep donald out of my counrty, France.
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robertmidwest
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@peepsAre you suggesting that calling someone Cheeto is evidence of hate?
@dvdjs what do think?
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Ridgerunner
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His persecution of the Little Sisters of the Poor was all it took to turn me against him forever.Seriously, I don’t think anything would give me fond memories of Barack Obama. He is history like G. W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
That begs the question. I asked the other poster to cite a specific post where the writer claims to hate Obama. No one has provided one. Questioning citizenship or criticizing hair color may be juvenile or simply stupid, but they are not hate.Apparently you don’t. On many threads on this forum we have gone 'round and 'round on what constitutes hate.
The only conclusion that can be drawn is: what the hate-accuser says it is. I am afraid that the battle to make is something “rather specific” has been lost.
Criticize what? His promiscuity. Duly criticized. His foul language about women and others? Absolutely condemned.I don’t see Trump supporters criticizing Trump and nobody can dispute that there are plenty of things he can be criticized for.
His policies? On balance, pretty good.
Two entirely different things.
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dvdjs
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Please show me where I have done that. If you look you will find that you are mistaken.However you are the one making accusations of hatred shown to,Obama by members on the forum,not I
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dvdjs
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I agree. I think the charges against forum member for hating Trump are rubbish.Questioning citizenship or criticizing hair color may be juvenile or simply stupid, but they are not hate.
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MonteRCMS
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Interesting … how polls are taken.
omitted a few things:
2% economic growth … extremely low with no hope for growth … annual GDP growth never hit 3% under Obama, prompting economists to dub the era a “low-growth” environment
cash for clunkers … poor people need those older cars
obama care with no choice … people need choice
repeated foreign policy fiascoes … setting the middle east of fire … playing into Iran’s policy
leading from behind
killing khadaffi … he was working for us and was bringing water to the desert
guns to mexico
shuttle cancellation … we needed it for a while , instead we have to pay Russia
solyndra and other similar scandals
military deterioration
“Clinton Cash” scandal … Uranium One, etc
payments to Iran … pallets of CASH
too many tony personal vacations paid for by the taxpayer
much more here:
Here’s how it worked: Obama buddies Marty Nesbitt and Harreld Kirkpatrick III formed a private equity investment firm called Vistria, right around the time Obama was re-elected in 2012.
Nothing wrong with that, except, as Schweizer notes in his book, “A curious pattern began to emerge. Obama and his administration would attack industries with government power, which led to substantially lower valuations for these companies. Nesbitt and Vistria, or others close to Obama, could then acquire those assets for pennies on the dollar.”
As an example, Schweizer cites the case of for-profit higher education schools like University of Phoenix, ITT Technical Institute, and DeVry University. In 2013, Obama blamed the schools for taking advantage of students by saddling them with massive amounts of student debt, ruining their credit and making a profit on it. He ordered the Federal Trade Commission to go after them.
In the case of the University of Phoenix, its parent Apollo Education Group was suspended after a Federal Trade Commission investigation in 2015. The following year, three companies, including Vistria, swooped in to buy what remained of Apollo at a price 90% below its share price before the investigation.
As Vistria’s education investment portfolio bulged, a number of Obama Education Department officials, including Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, ended up taking high-level jobs with Vistria.
omitted a few things:
2% economic growth … extremely low with no hope for growth … annual GDP growth never hit 3% under Obama, prompting economists to dub the era a “low-growth” environment
cash for clunkers … poor people need those older cars
obama care with no choice … people need choice
repeated foreign policy fiascoes … setting the middle east of fire … playing into Iran’s policy
leading from behind
killing khadaffi … he was working for us and was bringing water to the desert
guns to mexico
shuttle cancellation … we needed it for a while , instead we have to pay Russia
solyndra and other similar scandals
military deterioration
“Clinton Cash” scandal … Uranium One, etc
payments to Iran … pallets of CASH
too many tony personal vacations paid for by the taxpayer
much more here:
Here’s how it worked: Obama buddies Marty Nesbitt and Harreld Kirkpatrick III formed a private equity investment firm called Vistria, right around the time Obama was re-elected in 2012.
Nothing wrong with that, except, as Schweizer notes in his book, “A curious pattern began to emerge. Obama and his administration would attack industries with government power, which led to substantially lower valuations for these companies. Nesbitt and Vistria, or others close to Obama, could then acquire those assets for pennies on the dollar.”
As an example, Schweizer cites the case of for-profit higher education schools like University of Phoenix, ITT Technical Institute, and DeVry University. In 2013, Obama blamed the schools for taking advantage of students by saddling them with massive amounts of student debt, ruining their credit and making a profit on it. He ordered the Federal Trade Commission to go after them.
In the case of the University of Phoenix, its parent Apollo Education Group was suspended after a Federal Trade Commission investigation in 2015. The following year, three companies, including Vistria, swooped in to buy what remained of Apollo at a price 90% below its share price before the investigation.
As Vistria’s education investment portfolio bulged, a number of Obama Education Department officials, including Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, ended up taking high-level jobs with Vistria.
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MonteRCMS
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Worth repeating.His persecution of the Little Sisters of the Poor was all it took to turn me against him forever.
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stinkcat_14
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As long as you are fine with crony capitalism and leaving a debt to our grandchildren. Other than that his policies are fine.His policies? On balance, pretty good.
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Jeanne_S
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Post#95…
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tuscany
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Pres. Obama is the greatest president in my lifetime? Let me remember his greatness…
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F_Marturana
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We aren’t going to compare gaffes are we?
If Obama’s gaffes are mentionable, what about our current gaffe prone fellow?
If Obama’s gaffes are mentionable, what about our current gaffe prone fellow?
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qui_est_ce
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This thread isn’t about Trump’s greatness.We aren’t going to compare gaffes are we?
If Obama’s gaffes are mentionable, what about our current gaffe prone fellow?
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tuscany
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I was reminiscing on Pres. Obama’s greatness, that was the topic correct?
When someone talks about Pres. Trump’s greatness, I will post my remberances of those too.
When someone talks about Pres. Trump’s greatness, I will post my remberances of those too.
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ProVobis
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Probably not because it’s more likely that the money came from the $5 trillion worth of QE purchases by a former Fed Chair after stock buybacks and dividend payouts.
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