Pictures Of Deceased

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Does your family take pictures of deceased loved ones? It seems my father’s side of the family takes pictures the deceased at the funeral viewing.
If your family practices this, is it ethnic or simply an old custom?
 
When cleaning out my grandfather’s things after he passed away in 1988. We found pictures of Grandma(who passed on 1979) in the coffin from several angles. My mom screamed, she was so shocked at the moment. No one knew these photos existed. I found them to be a bit creepy, I prefer pictures of her alive and smiling.
 
I always thought it was a mortal sin to photograph the dead but then I saw pictures of JPII after his death.

Shannin
 
I don’t know whether it is ethnic or not. I personally find it distasteful. I don’t care to see pictures of dead people. But I also find it distasteful for people to show pictures of their children being born. Both are completely normal events. (So are some other activities that I would not care to see documented in photographs.) Some things are best left up to the imagination, or not documented at all.:twocents:

Shannin raises a good point. I didn’t find pictures of the Pope lying in state to be distasteful. And I know it used to be common (in the 1700s and 1800s) to make “death masks”.
 
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kaymart:
I prefer pictures of her alive and smiling.
I agree. I don’t want to see pictures of my deceased relatives. I’d rather think of them when they were alive.
 
Kaymart. It’s shocking to get pictures,like that, or find them! I just got five of them,in the mail, from my aunt’s funeral and there was no warning. Simply a letter I gapsed pretty loudly…i wish I had a warning those were in there.
I suppose it’s an old fashioned practice. 😦
La Chair, I think it’s an old fashioned ethnic Slovac practice. It’s very
…upsetting to get those.
 
This was a big Victorian custom…

Families kept what they called “Books of the Dead” full of pictures of dead loved ones; children, parents, and other relatives.

amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0262181649/104-7748765-8031106?v=glance

deathonline.net/remembering/mourning/victorian.cfm#photos

Victorians also took clippings of hair and wove the most beautiful jewelery out of their deceased relative’s hair.

hairwork.com/remember.htm

Though their traditions for mourning and burying their dead may seem bizarre to us, they were filled with meaning and care.

If one doesn’t mind the seemingly disturbing topic- this history is quite fascinating.

As an amateur genealogist, I spend much of my free time examining the lives of the dead. These types of histories helped shape the lives of the people who came before us.
 
La Chiara:
I don’t know whether it is ethnic or not. I personally find it distasteful. I don’t care to see pictures of dead people. But I also find it distasteful for people to show pictures of their children being born. Both are completely normal events. (So are some other activities that I would not care to see documented in photographs.) Some things are best left up to the imagination, or not documented at all.:twocents:
Taping a birth is in bad taste. Our friends were one of the first to viedo tape the birth of their daughter. The husband had taped right as his daughter was being born.:eek: My husband and I were shocked at this. We though we were going to watch early days of the baby in hospital ect. My husband has never been able to look the wife in the eye again. poor taste
 
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Kaymart. It’s shocking to get pictures,like that, or find them! I just got five of them,in the mail, from my aunt’s funeral and there was no warning. Simply a letter I gapsed pretty loudly…i wish I had a warning those were in there.
I suppose it’s an old fashioned practice. 😦
La Chair, I think it’s an old fashioned ethnic Slovac practice. It’s very
…upsetting to get those.
In the mail :bigyikes: Oh, whoever did this has to learn some tact, even if a old fashioned ethnic pratice, call ahead and ask if you would like some photos (I personally would decline) You poor thing I know how you feel.
 
I think Christopher West quoted a (Catholic?) philosopher who said something to the effect of,
“We are so afraid of ghosts and corpses because they are a perversion of the bodily and spiritual nature of our being.”
They divorce the two aspects of who we are- both physical and spiritual beings. Interesting, no?
I also saw a special once on a mother who had a still-born child. Their second child was also still-born, but was miraculously revived. In the documentation, they showed pictures of her and her husband holding the dead second baby. She explained in the interview that they really regretted not taking pictures of their first baby, that’s why they had pictures of the second before his heart started beating.
I much prefer pictures of the living. We took pictures of my uncle in the coffin. :rolleyes:
 
When my cousin’s 8 moth old daughter died they layed her out in her christening dress. When I was at the veiwing I had to look twicw. she was so pretty and looked like a porciline doll…not what i expected. Someone asked her later if she had taken pictures. I thought that was odd.

On another note. A dear friend of mine gave birth to a still born daughter a little over a year ago. She lives out west and I was not there for that event but when I went to pay my respects to her parrents they showed me pictures of her. Though they were done in good taste (they were made to look like she was sleeping) I was shocked and it actually gave me nightmares for quite some time. For them however, I think it was a way for them to be able to say this was our grandchild, she really happened and we’ll never forget her. A different cousin and another friend of mine also took pictures of their babies that were stillborn but they both choose not show them to to many people.

I think that in the latter situations it is understandable but I can’t imagine taking a picture of my child in a coffin.
 
Taking pictures of a stillborn is different. There are no photos of this child, he/she will be remembered not only in the hearts by people who loved them but also a photo can give Mom, Dad, and grandparents some comfort. As someone stated earlier they are usually tastefully done, like a sleeping angel.
 
I think that in the latter situations it is understandable but I can’t imagine taking a picture of my child in a coffin.

Just be thankful you never have to.
When my son died I wanted desperately to take pictures. It would be all I would ever have of him. My husband, being a professional photographer, wouldn’t hear of it. All he could imagine was the poor sap at the lab who would have the suprise of his life. I even brought my camera to the funeral home, and considered asking my husband to “get something out of the car” so I would have a minute to myself to sneak in some photos. In the end, I couldn’t do something that would bring even more grief to my husband. Now, we have digital cameras, and I would have taken pictures in a heartbeat.

It is one of my strongest regrets. I have a piece of paper with his footprints, I have my pregnancy test showing positive, I have a ton of sympathy cards, I have his birth certificate, his Baptismal Certificate, and his death certificate. What I wouldn’t give to have pictures.

I do have two awful poloriod pictures that were taken in the hospital. I was so grateful for them. But trust me, they are awful. In the first weeks and months I would look at those photos a hundred times a day. I carried them with me so I could pull them out and see his face any time I needed to. I only showed them to a few select people. But he looked so beautiful at the visitation. I lifted him out of the coffin and held him one last time. It is the only time my husband ever held him. How I wish we had pictures of us holding our son.
 
I too would rather not.
But I know when my Mom passed away, Dad took a couple pictures.
When MIL died last year BIL took pictures.
Also a couple weeks ago when my Grandma passed away, my cousin, my sister and I did take a few pictures of Grandma at the funeral home. (Not sure why?)

In the case of MIL & Grandma, I made a picture collage of them with whatever pictures I had on bristol board and displayed at the funeral home (during wake) and at the gathering after the funeral. Everyone love going through these pictures.
 
Arlene–What a devastating loss you endured. If you had pictures of your baby son in death, they would not be in poor taste. That is altogether a different situation. I was assuming we were discussing an elderly person who had died and presumably had many opportunities for photographs while alive. My sympathies to you and my apologies for not thinking of such a situation.
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
Does your family take pictures of deceased loved ones? It seems my father’s side of the family takes pictures the deceased at the funeral viewing.
If your family practices this, is it ethnic or simply an old custom?
I took pictures of my late first husband because he looked wonderful… after wasting away w/ cancer…we just cound’nt get over how good he looked…(since he went down to skin and bone before he died)…Looking at them now…I wonder what was I thinking!!!:eek:
Then again…I wasn’t thinking…😦
 
In general I don’t think that such pictures are in the best of taste but I think that in the case of a stillborn or newborn child where there are no other pictures or in the case of an older person who who perhaps looks ‘better’ in death than in life it is appropriate.

What I can’t imagine is sending or showing such pictures to someone without first asking the recepients permission. And I think I would store such pictures in a place where someone would not be likely to stumble apon them unexpectedly.
 
I think it depends on the immediately bereaved. Is that what they would like? If so, fine. But they shouldn’t just pop them out on people without first warning them. I can’t imagine getting them in the mail, “Oh, here’s Uncle Zeke’s wake, and hte baby’s first birthday, and here’s one of the new puppy”. And birth photos or videos- no thank you.

We have an aunt in our family who is jokingly referred to as, “Photographer of the Dead”. An open casket sends her scurrying for her disposable, or the nearest drug store.
 
I’ve learned one rule of thumb: if someone looses someone dear to them, esp. a child, never question their actions, unless they or someone else is actually going to be harmed by those actions. If they want to take photos, let them take photos. If they want to hold the baby, let them hold the baby. In my home town in North Texas, we went through a spate of teenagers dying (lightning strikes, car accidents, etc.). The parents naturally came near to loosing their minds with grief. When one mother held a party/picnic on what would have been her son’s birthday and held it by his cemetary plot, no one said a word. When someone suggested to the cemetary association that ballons and stuffed animals and jerseys were kind of junking up the cemetary, they were quickly told to shut their pie-holes.

I think, to some degree large or small, grieving parents are in profound communion or state of empathy with the Sorrowful Mother and She must have a special eye on them.
 
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JKirkLVNV:
I’ve learned one rule of thumb: if someone looses someone dear to them, esp. a child, never question their actions, unless they or someone else is actually going to be harmed by those actions. If they want to take photos, let them take photos. If they want to hold the baby, let them hold the baby. In my home town in North Texas, we went through a spate of teenagers dying (lightning strikes, car accidents, etc.). The parents naturally came near to loosing their minds with grief. When one mother held a party/picnic on what would have been her son’s birthday and held it by his cemetary plot, no one said a word. When someone suggested to the cemetary association that ballons and stuffed animals and jerseys were kind of junking up the cemetary, they were quickly told to shut their pie-holes.

I think, to some degree large or small, grieving parents are in profound communion or state of empathy with the Sorrowful Mother and She must have a special eye on them.
Beautiful! Thank you.
 
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