Planned Parenthood senior official caught discussing business in fetal organs [CWN]

[Theo520]

LLC records are public, go look it up.

No. If you own the lab, then you can simply donate the body parts to the lab and then pay yourself a cut of profits from the sale of stem cells. Since there is technically no sale of organs involved, there is no crime. But that’s not what they did. They sold the organs to the lab and invoiced for it.

We’ll need to let a full investigation dig into the financial details and possible cross ownership (forensic accounting is not my expertise). While StemExpress probably has some powerful connections, that won’t apply to every clinic. I think the connections were with PP leadership and the payments were to throw a bone to the owners of the individual clinics.

Let’s say you want to kill someone. A smart person will hire a professional hitman through the intermediaries, so they cannot be traced. A normal person will kill the victim themselves, dispose of the body, and keep quiet. A stupid person will kill the victim theselves, record that on video, and send the video to the police. This is what they did.

That woman is either a complete idiot or she was purposedly set up to be the scapegoat to protect a larger operation.

This has been going on for a long time. They could have recorded the same conversation with people working in almost any of the clinics, but they used her because of her seniority. What the woman said was distasteful but I don’t think she admitted to any specific crimes. She talked about grey areas which would be hard to prosecute.

I expect companies like StemExpress will be the ones targeted for any legal action, that’s where the real money is circulating. PP will likely start donating the tissue samples for no compensation beyond actual ‘out of pocket’ costs. Before they were charging for floor space, etc etc…

 

[estesbob]

The reason this is going to be so hard to investigate is funds made from slaughtering babies babies ultimately end up in the pockets of Democrat politicians who do everything they can to protect Planned Parenthood. And Catholics will continue to vote for them because “they care for the little guy”

The message is very easy-if you’re disgusted by the actions of Planned Parenthood quit empowering the people who fund them

 

[estesbob]

I would gladly be an anti-choicer than a supporter of baby murder like yourself.

Better anti-choice than anti-life.

 

[Mark121359]

The reason this is going to be so hard to investigate is funds made from slaughtering babies babies ultimately end up in the pockets of Democrat politicians who do everything they can to protect Planned Parenthood. And Catholics will continue to vote for them because "they care for the little guy"

The message is very easy-if you’re disgusted by the actions of Planned Parenthood quit empowering the people who fund them

Yep. They care for the little guy alright…except for that little guy or little gal still in the womb!

Peace, Mark

 

[Path_Finder]

It appears PP will skate on this but it nonetheless, brought up a practice; what does it matter really, whether they technically broke the law or not? Well, it does but doing these things has been known since Connie Chung did that year 2000 piece saying the same thing. It’s just that what we don’t see doesn’t strike us in the same way.

I see Dr. Carson, Senator Rand Paul, a number of politicians are commenting on this and speaking of action. When Dr. Carson speaks though, that carries weight because of how he was a medical professional and a specialist.

 

[DeniseNY]

I see Dr. Carson, Senator Rand Paul, a number of politicians are commenting on this and speaking of action. When Dr. Carson speaks though, that carries weight because of how he was a medical professional and a specialist.

On his FB page, Dr. Carson called it “barbaric”. It’s difficult though to get people to understand this when they have been conditioned to believe that conservatives are the evil ones

 

[PRmerger]

So you are okay with it?

Absolutely.

Absolutely horrific.

Reminiscent of a German being shown pictures of Auschwitz and responding, “I am absolutely fine with it. After all, we were able to find some cures from experimenting on the Jews there. You’re benefiting from one of those cures right now, in fact, so it’s odd that you would be against the Holocaust.”

 

[_Abyssinia]

Arizona Gov. Ducey calls for review of Planned Parenthood practices

ktar.com/22/1851383/Arizona-Gov-Ducey-calls-for-review-of-Planned-Parenthood-practices

 

[_Abyssinia]

Center for Medical Progress have released another video:

youtu.be/MjCs_gvImyw

 

[estesbob]

Center for Medical Progress have released another video:

youtu.be/MjCs_gvImyw

I don’t see how that he continued to claim the transactions were legal. Legally all you’re only allowed to charge for the transportation of the parts and yet she admits that the representatives of these firms came in to her clinic , picked out the tissues they wanted, and transported them themselves.

I have yet to see a single Democrat candidate for president comment on these videos . I have yet to see a single Democrat politician joining the call for an investigation of Planned Parenthood . And yet I am sure as election season approaches we will be told repeatedly that there is no difference between the parties on abortion . Those who promote this idea should view these videos and realize that they are supporting these activities with their votes

 

[_Abyssinia]

I don’t see how that he continued to claim the transactions were legal. Legally all you’re only allowed to charge for the transportation of the parts and yet she admits that the representatives of these firms came in to her clinic , picked out the tissues they wanted, and transported them themselves.

I have yet to see a single Democrat candidate for president comment on these videos . I have yet to see a single Democrat politician joining the call for an investigation of Planned Parenthood . And yet I am sure as election season approaches we will be told repeatedly that there is no difference between the parties on abortion . Those who promote this idea should view these videos and realize that they are supporting these activities with their votes

Bernie Sanders has said something, here is a report:

At a press conference here, where the 2016 presidential candidate is campaigning, Sanders responded to a question from CNN by saying he had not watched the video, but that he had read coverage of the story.

“Obviously, I think Cecile Richards apologized for the tone of that video,” Sanders said, referring to the group’s president. “I think her apology was exactly right. I think that the staffer, the tone was terribly wrong.”

edition.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/planned-parenthood-video-bernie-sanders/

 

[estesbob]

Bernie Sanders has said something, here is a report:

edition.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/planned-parenthood-video-bernie-sanders/

He didn’t comment on the actions at all. He merely commented on the tone used by the doctor explaining the actions . I would like to see Bernie Sanders or any Democrat canidate explain their position on the practice of selling tissue from aborted children

 

[Path_Finder]

Another video has been released with a Dr. Gatter being interviewed.

I know Heavy.com is probably not the first news source to go to but there “5 Fast Facts You Need to Know” on various stories does seem to streamline reading comprehension on stories:

heavy.com/news/2015/07/mary-gatter-planned-parenthood-video-center-for-medical-progress/

Is there a comment about paying for it with a “Lamborghini” or something??

Alternatively, one can go to liveaction or other such websites, this story is just coming out now and so has not received wide-attention yet.

liveactionnews.org/breaking-planned-parenthood-medical-director-caught-on-video-haggling-over-fetal-tissue-price/

Legal or not, this practice needs to be closely examined. It’s worrisome to think that perhaps, a private practitioner might be able to do something like this as well.

What would be hard to catch though is as outlined here, if the abortionist carries out the process in a way to facilitate the tissue or organ harvesting, then, it may well be illegal.

 

[Theo520]

I don’t see how that he continued to claim the transactions were legal. Legally all you’re only allowed to charge for the transportation of the parts and yet she admits that the representatives of these firms came in to her clinic , picked out the tissues they wanted, and transported them themselves.

I have yet to see a single Democrat candidate for president comment on these videos . I have yet to see a single Democrat politician joining the call for an investigation of Planned Parenthood . And yet I am sure as election season approaches we will be told repeatedly that there is no difference between the parties on abortion . Those who promote this idea should view these videos and realize that they are supporting these activities with their votes

The whole industry is due for a shake up. PP is exposed but what about the middlemen that pick up the samples for $30-100 and resell at huge markups. Any idea if the law also applies to them? I’ve very curious about their owners and how they may be interconnected to PP leadership.

 

[zz912]

He didn’t comment on the actions at all. He merely commented on the tone used by the doctor explaining the actions . I would like to see Bernie Sanders or any Democrat canidate explain their position on the practice of selling tissue from aborted children

And to reiterate for those who may believe otherwise:

A Catholic cannot support or vote for someone who supports this evil.

 

[sarah_j]

And to reiterate for those who may believe otherwise:

A Catholic cannot support or vote for someone who supports this evil.

Right.

That brings up an issue that a pro-abortion coworker of mine mentioned recently :
that if abortion is to be outlawed, birth control has to be widely provided.

I know the Church is against birth control and I don’t
expect the Church to change it’s stance on birth control.

But can we (personally) agree that birth control would be a far less evil than abortion?
To say to these pro- abortionists that we don’t want birth control, either,
would make them close their minds to the evils of abortion, I think.

 

[JimG]

Right.

That brings up an issue that a pro-abortion coworker of mine mentioned recently :
that if abortion is to be outlawed, birth control has to be widely provided.

I know the Church is against birth control and I don’t
expect the Church to change it’s stance on birth control.

But can we (personally) agree that birth control would be a far less evil than abortion?
To say to these pro- abortionists that we don’t want birth control, either,
would make them close their minds to the evils of abortion, I think.

Artificial contraception leads to more abortion. First, it unlinks children from marriage, then it enables widespread extramarital fornication and adultery; contraception fails, abortion is needed as a backup. I would recommend a reading of Eberstadt’s “Adam and Eve After the Pill.”

 

[zz912]

Right.

That brings up an issue that a pro-abortion coworker of mine mentioned recently :
that if abortion is to be outlawed, birth control has to be widely provided.

I know the Church is against birth control and I don’t
expect the Church to change it’s stance on birth control.

But can we (personally) agree that birth control would be a far less evil than abortion?
To say to these pro- abortionists that we don’t want birth control, either,
would make them close their minds to the evils of abortion, I think.

Planned Unparenthood’s business model is based on widespread use of contraception, because they know of the failure rates from normal people using them. Over 50% of the women they perform abortions on were using contraception.

Yes, we can acknowledge that contraception is a lesser sin than killing a child, but it is still a GRAVE evil.

 

[Theo520]

Right.

That brings up an issue that a pro-abortion coworker of mine mentioned recently :
that if abortion is to be outlawed, birth control has to be widely provided.

I know the Church is against birth control and I don’t
expect the Church to change it’s stance on birth control.

But can we (personally) agree that birth control would be a far less evil than abortion?
To say to these pro- abortionists that we don’t want birth control, either,
would make them close their minds to the evils of abortion, I think.

Since abortion is one method of ‘birth control’, I think you are referring to contraceptives.

Abortion is practiced globally and won’t disappear. But we could minimize the demand as a society. I wouldn’t expect the Church to acquiesce on using any form of birth control.

 

[estesbob]

Right.

That brings up an issue that a pro-abortion coworker of mine mentioned recently :
that if abortion is to be outlawed, birth control has to be widely provided.

I know the Church is against birth control and I don’t
expect the Church to change it’s stance on birth control.

But can we (personally) agree that birth control would be a far less evil than abortion?
To say to these pro- abortionists that we don’t want birth control, either,
would make them close their minds to the evils of abortion, I think.

The first thing you should realize is that contraception does NOT lead to fewer abortions. It should also be noted that many contraceptive methods are , in fact, abortificants. Pope Paul VI predicted the horrors the contraceptive society would bring about in his Encyclical Humanae Vitae. Since the contraceptive society came about divorce, child abuse, abortion and single motherhood have all increased.