Please help refute this....Sola scripture vs Roman Catholicism

[SaintPatrick333]

Ahs said,
The Bible is Truth and does not contradict itself, yet those relying on SS still come to opposing views which are both fully based on Scripture alone. This is an excellent reason to dismiss SS…no one can be certain that the opposing view is wrong because BOTH views are based on someone’s understanding of scripture.

Ahs, since you have agreed that the bible is truth and does not contradict itself, it must then follow that any doctrine, dogma or tradition of the church must by necessity not contradict the Bible in order to also be true. Anything that contradicts truth cannot be true.

That is why a basic rule of Bible interpretation is: “To understand doctrine, bring all the scriptures together on the subject you wish to know; then let every word have its proper influence; and if you can form your theory without a contradiction, you cannot be in error.” If you find your doctrine contradicting any scripture it should be regarded as erroneous and dismissed.

When you read Matt 5:19 where Jesus says no one should break the least of the commandments or teach others to do so, that should be clear enough for any reasonable man to understand. Add to that Psm 111:8, where the commandments are said to stand fast forever and ever , and you have indisputable evidence that changing or removing a commandment of God is forbidden by God. There are many other verses attesting to the immutability of the commandments, as well
You may argue for a doctrine that allows tradition to violate scripture , but then what you are really saying is that tradition is allowed to contradict truth and therefore does not have to be true.

Ahs said "…no one can be certain that the opposing view is wrong because BOTH views are based on someone’s understanding of what Scripture is really saying. How does SS resolve this issue?

Be careful in your analysis here, for what you are really saying is that no one can be sure of what is really true. But Jesus said if you did His will you would know the truth. (John 7:17 and 8:31-31) Many people want to know the truth without doing His will, and say they love Him without keeping His commandments (John 14:15).Paul says the scriptures can make you wise unto salvation (2Tim 3:15) and Jesus says you will err in not knowing the scriptures (Matt 22:29) These are powerful verses given validity to sola scriptura and that the Lord has made provision for us to know the truth.

If the doctrines of the Catholic church do not violate scripture , why would you be so adamant in your dislike for SS? If your doctrines are pure, SS would be a powerful argument for your beliefs. The only people who would object to SS would be those who cannot validate their doctrines or traditions through the inspired word of God. Sola scriptura is the great truth detector for it compares all doctrine to the Bible, and you have already agreed that the Bible is truth.
When you say “no one can be certain” then you are contradicting Christ’s statements saying we are to know the truth : John 8:32 “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

Phineas said: Knowing the truth depends on your sincerity and depth of study.
Ahs then asked: Says who? Does the Bible say this? Or is this just an opinion? Using SS, please demonstrate this for me.

Sincerity Jerm 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Depth of Study 2 Tim 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Remember, SS is not against tradition in general, but rather against tradition that contradicts the scriptures, for anything that contradicts the truth is a lie…

Kindly go to scripturecatholic(dot)com and look up sola scriptura. It will provide countless scriptural evidence that tears that heresy apart.

 

[Porknpie]

Sorry for the confusion Porknpie. i was talking about Coptic being confused. I said,"So Coptic Christian, after reading all the NT verses on Paul keeping the Sabbath and preaching to the Gentiles on that day, now reads the above completely erroneous statements from professed “church fathers” that Porknpie submitted, and** he** professes to be confused.

i should have worded that long sentence more clearly

Thank you for clarifying.

Someone earlier on this thread had a very insightful quote. i don’t know where it is located but it goes like this:
"The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it. ."

It’s from Bishop Fulton Sheen. He and John Paul ll can be considered 20th century Hall of Famers. Read him and you risk becoming Catholic. I can get more of his quotes out and :hug3: win you over.

In spiritual matters, the majority has proven to be very unreliable.

Examples besides the Sabbath? Who do you include in the majority? Who has authority to understand scripture?

As Christians we use the Bible as the great truth detector…Many so called church fathers were not real shepherds of the flock, but rather wolves in sheep clothing.
Paul warned of these men:
"Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 “Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” .

Specifics? Who is many? What perverse things? How can the Early Church Fathers draw disciples away from themselves, their own Catholic church? Makes no sense.

You and Coptic keep bringing up Adventism and Ellen White. Why? What do they have to do with the truth of the scriptures I present to you?.

i strongly suspect that since you cannot refute the plain word of God i present to you, you hope to discredit me by linking me to some organization or personage that you think you can discredit, and thereby call my credibility into question. Sort of like discrediting the messenger because you can’t discredit the message. I hope that is not the case, but if it is, then such subterfuge is unbecoming a Christian.

Why don’t either you or Coptic tell us what Adventism or Ellen White has to do with sola scriptura and traditions that contradict scripture; or with the truth or falsity of anything I have posted? Maybe others as well as I may be interested in the relevance of your introduction of such unrelated subjects here on this sola scriptura thread.

Let’s move off the Sabbath. I’m now going to church on Saturday again.

 

[Patavium]

Phineas,

Could you please write that You don’t believe that Ellen White is a prophet or that she was a false prophet?

 

[CopticChristian]

**Phineas:
QUOTE]Sorry for the confusion Porknpie. i was talking about Coptic being confused. I said,"So Coptic Christian, after reading all the NT verses on Paul keeping the Sabbath and preaching to the Gentiles on that day, now reads the above completely erroneous statements from professed “church fathers” that Porknpie submitted, and** he** professes to be confused.

i should have worded that long sentence more clearly

Someone earlier on this thread had a very insightful quote. i don’t know where it is located but it goes like this:
"The truth is still the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is still a lie even if everyone believes it. ."

In spiritual matters , the majority has proven to be very unreliable.

As Christians we use the Bible as the great truth detector…Many so called church fathers were not real shepherds of the flock, but rather wolves in sheep clothing.
Paul warned of these men:
"Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Acts 20:30 “Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” .

You and Coptic keep bringing up Adventism and Ellen White. Why? What do they have to do with the truth of the scriptures I present to you?.

i strongly suspect that since you cannot refute the plain word of God i present to you, you hope to discredit me by linking me to some organization or personage that you think you can discredit, and thereby call my credibility into question. Sort of like discrediting the messenger because you can’t discredit the message. I hope that is not the case, but if it is, then such subterfuge is unbecoming a Christian.

**Why don’t either you or Coptic tell us what Adventism or Ellen White has to do with sola scriptura and traditions that contradict scripture; or with the truth or falsity of anything I have posted? Maybe others as well as I may be interested in the relevance of your introduction of such unrelated subjects here on this sola scriptura thread./**QUOTE]Phineas,

It may come as a surprise to you but this is a Catholic Forum where lots of Catholics congregate. It is called Catholic Answers, not “Come Evangelize the Catholic”…so in regards to your question about Ellen, take note that this thread is about Sola Scriptura and the Roman Catholic Church…you are sitting behind a fence throwing rocks as follows.

First you designate yourself as Protestant in your posting and yet…look here…

There are many traditions in both Catholic and Protestant churches that contradict scripture…Here are just a few:

You hurl stones at Protestants designating yourself as a Protestant:shrug:

Then you hurl stones at Catholics and their beliefs…

Catholics have always labeled Protestants as heretics for their willful separation from the “true” church. But this accusation applies rather to them. They are the ones who interposed a priestly hierarchy between Christ and man and made to non-effect two of the commandments of God by substituting man-inspired tradition for God inspired commandments.

If tradition of the fathers contradicts scripture, who are we to believe? Does Scripture take precedence over tradition ?

Do you think the declaration that forgiveness of sins can only be obtained through the intercession of a priest is not putting the church hierarchy between Christ and man???

I never said that the Bible is the only source of truth. I said it was the basis for all truth and reform. It is the great truth detector in regard to religious doctrine .

The opinions of learned men, the deductions of science, the creeds or decisions of church councils, as numerous and discordant as are the churches which they represent, the voice of the majority—not one nor all of these should be regarded as evidence for or against any point of religious faith.

You then refer to some understanding of an Eschatologic point of view that points to a milliniarist point of view…

Daniel 7:25 warns us that men would even think to change times and laws.

And here you designate two groups that are exempt from you rock throwing…

Has not both Catholicism and most Protestant denominations (excluding 7th day Baptists and 7th day Adventists) changed the day of the 4th commandment to Sunday . Has not the Catholic church even removed the second commandment and split the 10th into 2 parts?

You claim the question about Ellen White has nothing to do with anything and then attack the Papacy.

Catholics claim their authority from Peter supposing that he was designated as head of the early church. But the New Testament gave no one apostle priestly authority over other apostles, and Peter himself said all believers were as priests :

1 Pet 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1 Pet 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light

Catholicism made the Pope ( by tradition only and without Divine authority), the Vicar of Christ on Earth, and his subjects even began to call him “Your Holiness” and bow down and kiss his ring, but Jesus said::

Now if Ellen White is not a prophetess, then shall I claim that Samuel and Tacy Hubbard, Stephen Mumford and Edmund Dunham are heretics. Are you Ok with that?

 

[stewstew03]

…then such subterfuge is unbecoming a Christian.

Dodging the SDA questions posed to you by Porknpie and Coptic can also be characterized as subterfuge, no?

Leaders of our respective faith communities (whether St. Peter or Matrin Luther or Ellen White or Joseph Smith) are relevant to the discussion.

 

[KathleenGee]

The Sabbath…I saw an Adventist TV program that began with this big number 7 next to the front door…

Ms White was into numerology which is superstition and Sacred Scriptures condemns this form of witchcraft.

After Christ’s resurrection and glorious ascension into heaven, Christ draws all men to Himself, including the pope. The Lord is bigger than Catholics and He is not afraid of them and loves them like He does the Adventists.

The Gentiles evolved differently than the Galilean Christians, Jews who were baptized in the Lord. For awhile, St. Peter and other apostles had continued to attend the synagogue with the Orthodox Jews. St. James the Lesser was the first head of the Church of Jerusalem.
The Jews put a malediction on the door refusing entry for the Galilean Jews.

So they left and in protest, began their worship on Sunday as well as end the 40 day fast.

The Gentiles came about differently, attending in the homes of rich Christians. They worshipped at night that ended at dawn, but then moved to Sundays. Sunday in the Lord is the 8th day.

We spend the time in remembrance of our Lord’s Resurrection, and keep the day holy by not doing unnecessary servile work. Many people do extra Scripture readings or do alms in giving to the poor in the Lord’s name to this very day.

The Good News of Jesus Christ did not end in Revelation. He gave us His Church, and in doing so, gave it the power to bind and loose and to forgive sins through Him.

The Church began, as Fr Barrows says, as a small seed and grew, especially when it went beyond Israel and into many places and cultures. The Holy Spirit is at work, unifying us and working through those called to be the Lord’s ministers. This all goes back to Pentecost, the beginning of the Church.

 

[KathleenGee]

How much time every week at SDA sabbath do you hear your preacher denouncing Catholicism…or how many times do we come up in your weekly gatherings???

I see the Watchtower magazine put out by the JW’s…and every single one spends time denouncing the Catholic church and showing people praying before statues of Mary implying Mary worship…

Just wondering…I think we spend more time focusing on Christ…so far, I have been going to Mass for about over 63 years, and I think my earliest years had to be the same as the ones when I started to remember…and continued the same…meaning, I don’t ever recall hearing a priest denounce any other Christians who are not Catholic at Sunday Mass, nor hear any denunciations about any Protestants during the week…

For real.

I remember my former pastor, now with the Lord, who came out one time holding a crucifix…He showed the back side of the cross without the corpus of Christ and told us this was men…and on the other side, he showed the full crucifix and said 'Who do you follow?

Ok. I am done.

 

[Patavium]

Phineas,

I see you continue to read this thread, and you continue to ignore anything that you don’t like . I am seriously starting to believe that perhaps you don’t have any answers, except insisting on Saturday for Church attendance.

 

[CopticChristian]

Phineas,

I see you continue to read this thread, and you continue to ignore anything that you don’t like . I am seriously starting to believe that perhaps you don’t have any answers, except insisting on Saturday for Church attendance.

Pat,

Ellen may not be the source for Phineas. It may be that there is an alternate source like this one…

seventhdaybaptist.org/sites/default/files/Foreword.pdf

FOREWORD
from the
SEVENTH DAY BAPTIST HISTORICAL SOCIETY
James Bailey has often been considered the father of the Seventh Day Baptist Historical Society for he was the first to systematically collect and organize the history of the General Conference at the urging of Conference. But his purpose went beyond the mere archiving of records; he recognized the value of fact over mere tradition in the advance of the gospel message. As stated in his obituary, “From his boyhood, Brother Bailey was possessed of the true missionary spirit; he always longed above all things , to see the borders of Zion enlarged, and the devoted all other things, to see the borders of Zion

and Phineas may be drawing inspiration from here…

seventhdaybaptist.org/

A THUMBNAIL SKETCH OF SEVENTH DAY BAPTISTS
1650 - PRESENT

Seventh Day Baptists are a covenant people based on the concept of regenerate membership, believer’s baptism, congregational polity, and scriptural basis for belief and practice. Seventh Day Baptists have presented the Sabbath as a sign of obedience in a covenant relationship with God and not as a condition of salvation. They have not condemned those who do not accept the Sabbath but are curious at the apparent inconsistency of those who claim to accept the Bible as their source of faith and practice, yet have followed traditions of the church instead.

The silence of Phineas is a response.

 

[Hamlet123]

I thought this thread was regarding Sola Scritura. I continue to read about the Seventh Day Adventis

 

[Patavium]

Sola scriptura was disproved several pages ago, and it has become a thread about Saturday Church attendance.

 

[CopticChristian]

I thought this thread was regarding Sola Scritura. I continue to read about the Seventh Day Adventis

Hamlet,

It is about a particular element of Sola Scriptura proposed by Phineas whose silence has created your confusion. What is it you are trying to figure out that you became confused about?

 

[Phineas]

My first post on this thread was a question about what does one do when tradition contradicts scripture. Then I was told that Catholic tradition does not contradict scripture and that they are both on a par with each other.

Then someone asked me to give examples of some contradictions if I could. This led to the question of the Sabbath commandment being changed. I noted the Catholic doctrine of Sunday worship/Lord’s day and I gave scriptural evidence to support my claim that such tradition contradicted the word of God. Many were upset with my claim and came back with a wide variety of objections , such as:

1. The Sabbath was for the Jews
   2.The Sabbath was part of the Mosaic Law nailed to the cross
2. Jesus rose on the first day so it is now the Lord’s day and the new Sabbath
3. The apostles abandoned the old Sabbath and now worshiped on Sunday
4. The law changed with the New Covenant

When scripture showed that these arguments were not scriptural at all, then the claim arose that since Peter and the church were given the keys and could bind and loose, that meant that the early church fathers could change the Sabbath commandment and the Lord’s day at their own discretion. but Jesus rebuked those who broke the commandments and taught others to do so. fFnally the loudest objectors agreed the Saturday was indeed the Sabbath.

That is a rough summary of what has transpired between us.

But there is resentment toward me for using scripture to cast doubt on long held and cherished traditions of the Catholic church. In fact Coptic said," You hurl stones at Catholics and their beliefs…"

Let me correct you Coptic, I hurled scripture at you, not stones It only felt like stones to you because you had accepted a tradition of your church without “searching the scriptures to see if it was so.’ You could not defend your tradition from the word of God so you hoped to attack my credibility by pinning a church denominational label on me and then hurling stones at it in order to discredit me.”

This thread is about sola scriptura and its role , if any, in forming church doctrine, dogma and tradition… It is not about my personal affiliation or preferences. Look at all the posts on this thread attacking Adventism. and Ellen White. Who can see any relevance about what Adventists believe on a sola scriptura thread? If I am wrong, show me from scripture where I err. If you think Adventists are wrong you are obliged to go to their websites and correct them.

This is a Catholic website and Catholic doctrine is being challenged by the word of God- sola scriptura. Defend your beliefs. Show me where I am wrong. Give me scripture to back up your beliefs. Show me from the word of God the reason you hold your beliefs. Stop all the juvenile posts railing against some woman and her church and defend from scripture your own cherished doctrine that the scriptures alone, and not I, have called into question.

 

[CopticChristian]

My first post on this thread was a question about what does one do when tradition contradicts scripture. Then I was told that Catholic tradition does not contradict scripture and that they are both on a par with each other.

Then someone asked me to give examples of some contradictions if I could. This led to the question of the Sabbath commandment being changed. I noted the Catholic doctrine of Sunday worship/Lord’s day and I gave scriptural evidence to support my claim that such tradition contradicted the word of God. Many were upset with my claim and came back with a wide variety of objections , such as:

1. The Sabbath was for the Jews
   2.The Sabbath was part of the Mosaic Law nailed to the cross
2. Jesus rose on the first day so it is now the Lord’s day and the new Sabbath
3. The apostles abandoned the old Sabbath and now worshiped on Sunday
4. The law changed with the New Covenant

When scripture showed that these arguments were not scriptural at all, then the claim arose that since Peter and the church were given the keys and could bind and loose, that meant that the early church fathers could change the Sabbath commandment and the Lord’s day at their own discretion. but Jesus rebuked those who broke the commandments and taught others to do so. fFnally the loudest objectors agreed the Saturday was indeed the Sabbath.

That is a rough summary of what has transpired between us.

But there is resentment toward me for using scripture to cast doubt on long held and cherished traditions of the Catholic church. In fact Coptic said," You hurl stones at Catholics and their beliefs…"

Let me correct you Coptic, I hurled scripture at you, not stones It only felt like stones to you because you had accepted a tradition of your church without “searching the scriptures to see if it was so.’ You could not defend your tradition from the word of God so you hoped to attack my credibility by pinning a church denominational label on me and then hurling stones at it in order to discredit me.”

This thread is about sola scriptura and its role , if any, in forming church doctrine, dogma and tradition… It is not about my personal affiliation or preferences. Look at all the posts on this thread attacking Adventism. and Ellen White. Who can see any relevance about what Adventists believe on a sola scriptura thread? If I am wrong, show me from scripture where I err. If you think Adventists are wrong you are obliged to go to their websites and correct them.

This is a Catholic website and Catholic doctrine is being challenged by the word of God- sola scriptura. Defend your beliefs. Show me where I am wrong. Give me scripture to back up your beliefs. Show me from the word of God the reason you hold your beliefs. Stop all the juvenile posts railing against some woman and her church and defend from scripture your own cherished doctrine that the scriptures alone, and not I, have called into question.

Phineas,

Ok…I say that the Bible does not teach the following

1. The Bible does not teach the congregational form of organization, by which the congregation as a whole has the final authority in decision-making locally, and each local church is autonomous with respect to the General Conference (which is a “conference” of churches, not an authority structure). Thus the General Conference operates on the principle of “advice and consent” for cooperative programs, fellowship and spiritual enrichment, while local congregations direct their own activities (including the call and support of ministers).
2. The bible does not teach that Christ’s atoning work was finished on the cross; that it alone, not our own works of righteousness, is the basis for salvation; and that salvation is by God’s grace and is received by faith. The bible does not teach that the gift of eternal life thus gained assures a future free from condemnation (John 5:24). It is wrong to deny that salvation depends upon a person’s confession of every individual sin, and they reject the unscriptural concept of an “investigative judgment.” Salvation is by grace through Faith working in love.
3. The bible does not teach baptism of believers as a “witness to the acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.” Though believer’s baptism is required for membership in a church, church membership is a separate (but related) step of discipleship. The Bible does not teach that those that have been have baptized believers who wish to testify to their faith in Christ, but do not intend to join a church.

Work on those. Ok

 

[KathleenGee]

My girlfriend and her husband were good friends of mine.

They went back east and someone asked them if they believed that the Bible is the Word of God and they said yes. Then the person asked them, well, why do you believe in the Catholic Church when it changed the 10 commandments around and the wording, and moved the Lord’s sabbath to Sunday, etc.

They came to my house to ‘save’ me from the Catholic Church. I listened but didn’t respond. One day my friend, in response to my not going along with her, told me, ‘well, some day you will then see the coming glory of the Lord in the sky,’…implying she would be justified as telling me the truth, and I would be lost.

Later her mother went to visit their community church. The minister was preaching and in front of her Catholic mother, began the usual denouncing of the Catholic Church. The mother was so upset with this man’s talk, she got up and began walking out of the assembly. Going out, he insulted her again about Catholics behind her back.

That is literally sickening. Later, they started falling back on their college degrees, and began studying this religion, SDA…and found out that the woman founder was into numerology…the more they studied its foundation, they came to the conclusion it was not of the Lord and left.

This minister is violating the 10 commandments by not showing honor and respect to this member’s mother.

You can take beliefs and tradition out of the understanding of faith from the apostles and how faith was put into practice, by looking at early church documents and seeing how believers lived out their faith.

Likewise, there is another problem, and it is how such exclusive Word based believers also, likewise, with no theology, literally reduce Christ to minimalism and little belief in the greatness of Christ as both God and Man. Bible book only form of faith has no history of the great testament of faith by Christians who have lived out the Christian life, drawing on the Lord.

There are testimonies of faith, no saints…no witness to the new life of Jesus Christ. Your testimony of faith ends with St. John in Revelation…2,000 years ago…but no testimony of faith of people living out their faith, the same as that given and lived out 2,000 years ago.

The Catholic Church was given the power to bind and loosen. It has authority…by the movement of people, of how faith gradually formed, to it being practiced on Sunday. By the time Constantine became emperor, by the witness of faith and power he saw in the Cross, he signed the Edict of Milan to make Christianity legal and to have all subjects in his kingdom have Sunday as a day of rest.

And likewise, Constantine did not become a Christian until days before his death, so he did not found Roman Catholicism like some recent American protestants are now claiming.

I am reacting in this post to the attitude some Bible only Christians have towards the Catholic faith and our fellow believers, thinking our beliefs and traditions were made up to serve man not God, when our worship of Christ is incomparable to any Protestant bible service.

People should instead focus on Christology first…see how vast our faith in Christ is…and His effects, He Who draws ALL men to Himself. Study what the Mass is. It is represented in Revelations 22. And then secondly, study Christian history with an open mind, not drawing on the bias of their indoctrinators.

 

[JonNC]

Sola scriptura was disproved several pages ago, and it has become a thread about Saturday Church attendance.

Jon

 

[Hamlet123]

Hamlet,

It is about a particular element of Sola Scriptura proposed by Phineas whose silence has created your confusion. What is it you are trying to figure out that you became confused about?

You explanation reminds me of the professor I had back in '74. He told us he did not want is “snake answers”. To which we all gave him the obligatory “what do you mean” look. Than he answered us: For years it had been know that a certain professor’s final exam was always “give a detail description of the anatomy of a frog”. Most students did not attend his class as the final was 90% of the grade.

Now on one occasion after passing out the test the students, to thier chagrin, discovered the question was “give a detail description of the anatomy of a snake”. With this question a student began, " A snakes anatomy is very similar to a frog’s. Now a frog…"

Our profession said, "That is what I mean by a snake answer. And I do not want them’

 

[CopticChristian]

You explanation reminds me of the professor I had back in '74. He told us he did not want is “snake answers”. To which we all gave him the obligatory “what do you mean” look. Than he answered us: For years it had been know that a certain professor’s final exam was always “give a detail description of the anatomy of a frog”. Most students did not attend his class as the final was 90% of the grade.

Now on one occasion after passing out the test the students, to thier chagrin, discovered the question was “give a detail description of the anatomy of a snake”. With this question a student began, " A snakes anatomy is very similar to a frog’s. Now a frog…"

Our profession said, "That is what I mean by a snake answer. And I do not want them’

Hamlet,

I kind of like the Zen saying…he who knows speaks not…he who speaks knows not.

 

[racing59]

Hello there, I am new to these forums but I am struggling between my faith and that of scripture alone. I keep going back and forth, it’s torturous! Anyways I came upon this, so could you refute it, please? It talks about how the church wasn’t built on Peter also he has other thread talking of how Catholics were pagans turned Christians and that’s where we get most of the rituals.

prorege-forum.com/forum_entry.php?id=11558

Faith, comes by believing in what we can’t see. It is dealing in the Super Natural. I would stop looking at sights, read your Bible, and attend Mass at your Parish. Let the Holy Spirit always guide you. If RCC is were your Faith is, don’t even question it by what others have to say. Your relationship is you and God. His Holy Spirit is that still, soft, wisper into our hearts. We need to be very still to hear God. Don’t let others dictate your Faith.Stand fast in what you believe and pray every day.

 

[Patavium]

Phineas,

When are you going to answer our questions? or is this Saturday Church Attendance going to continue many more pages?