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Alright everyone. I understand what your telling me. Now, tell me if you don’t mind. What are good ways to make her into a good friend? Yes, I did say friend. I guess I’ll always have that attraction for her, just normal for 16 yo’s huh? 🙂 I not bad at making friends with people, but a little friendly advice on how to make good solid friendly relationships certainly won’t hurt. Thanks.👍
 
Alright everyone. I understand what your telling me. Now, tell me if you don’t mind. What are good ways to make her into a good friend? Yes, I did say friend. I guess I’ll always have that attraction for her, just normal for 16 yo’s huh? 🙂 I not bad at making friends with people, but a little friendly advice on how to make good solid friendly relationships certainly won’t hurt. Thanks.👍
First thing you gotta do is talk to her. Say hi every now and then, but be sure not to go by her house more than a couple times more than you usually would 😉
 
Real funny spirithound:rolleyes: Anyway, today I got to hang out with her a little more, we watched our local church league All Star game, it was fun. I learned a few more things about her. She wants to be an art therapist, what the heck is that:shrug: . She said her friend told her about it and that she doesn’t really know what they do, geez what’s up with that:shrug: Anyway how can I take things I learn about her, like this for example, and build on that to make a good friend? Thanks:thumbsup:
 
]Real funny spirithound:rolleyes: Anyway, today I got to hang out with her a little more, we watched our local church league All Star game, it was fun. I learned a few more things about her. She wants to be an art therapist, what the heck is that:shrug: . She said her friend told her about it and that she doesn’t really know what they do, geez what’s up with that:shrug
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Beats me!

My wife’s aunt sent her poodle to a therapist. She made the dog neurotic and then sent it to therapy. The aunt had a couple of short circuits herself. Anyway, nothing surprises me anymore, so art therapy will probably be the next american craze, whatever it is. Next time you see her tell her you are starting a new group, artaholics annonymous. Ask her if she wants to join. If she says yes you will be the only two members and you can spend lots of time together dsicussing neurotic art. You never know what a budding art therapist will go for.

On the other hand there are probably a whole lot of cute 15 and 16year old girls who have more normal interests, like pizza and 16 year old boys who just got their driver’s licenses.

I can just imagine the excitment of spending an evening on a date with a girl talking about Picasso or some other wigged out artist.

Trust me on this one. The minute a cute 16 year old girl comes along with a nice smile and pretty eyes, you will be over Crystal so fast that you will wonder what you ever saw in such an old woman.
 
Real funny spirithound:rolleyes: Anyway, today I got to hang out with her a little more, we watched our local church league All Star game, it was fun. I learned a few more things about her. She wants to be an art therapist, what the heck is that:shrug: . She said her friend told her about it and that she doesn’t really know what they do, geez what’s up with that:shrug: Anyway how can I take things I learn about her, like this for example, and build on that to make a good friend? Thanks:thumbsup:
Thanks, I crack myself up…someone’s gotta do it! 😉
But ya know, that’s what friends do…talk. Have you asked her about her plans for college?
 
blinks A lot of y’all jumped on the age pretty quick. What’s this about disliking it if the genders were reversed?

I was 16 when I began to date my then 19 year old boyfriend. No one threw a fit over it, never even thought of that as a problem really. Now I’m 18 and he’s 21, we’re still together. 3 years isn’t that much of a difference, I have friends who are a few years younger and friends who are a few years older- my boyfriend happens to be a bit older. But I’m a bit more mature than the guys my age, so it suits me just fine.

I’m gonna have to back up Ironman here. It’s not impossible, but he’s a good guy. He’s intelligent, he loves God and has a nice plan with all this. He wanted to become her friend first anyways, so by the time they actually start dating, he may be a bit older and wiser.

As for too young to date seriously- you shouldn’t date flippantly at all. So you imply he shouldn’t be dating. But a mere generation or two ago, people married at 17 and 18. And yes, that was then, this is now, but they were still 18 or so and our grandparents made it work.
 
blinks A lot of y’all jumped on the age pretty quick. What’s this about disliking it if the genders were reversed?

I was 16 when I began to date my then 19 year old boyfriend. No one threw a fit over it, never even thought of that as a problem really. Now I’m 18 and he’s 21, we’re still together. 3 years isn’t that much of a difference, I have friends who are a few years younger and friends who are a few years older- my boyfriend happens to be a bit older. But I’m a bit more mature than the guys my age, so it suits me just fine.

I’m gonna have to back up Ironman here. It’s not impossible, but he’s a good guy. He’s intelligent, he loves God and has a nice plan with all this. He wanted to become her friend first anyways, so by the time they actually start dating, he may be a bit older and wiser.

As for too young to date seriously- you shouldn’t date flippantly at all. So you imply he shouldn’t be dating. But a mere generation or two ago, people married at 17 and 18. And yes, that was then, this is now, but they were still 18 or so and our grandparents made it work.
Well heck, lemme just ask ya this. You’re 18 no? Would YOU date a 15 year old boy? LOL.
 
Well heck, lemme just ask ya this. You’re 18 no? Would YOU date a 15 year old boy? LOL.
Like the phrasing here 😃

I have knows guys who are mature in that age-group and might warrant my attention, were I single, yeah. Now, not every guy who is 15-16, mind you, but there have to be a few out there statistically.

But ya got me, I’d rather be looking for an older guy, than a younger one, this is true. But it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
 
Like the phrasing here 😃

I have knows guys who are mature in that age-group and might warrant my attention, were I single, yeah. Now, not every guy who is 15-16, mind you, but there have to be a few out there statistically.

But ya got me, I’d rather be looking for an older guy, than a younger one, this is true. But it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
If you were thinking of having a career as a lawyer, or military officer, and taking the first steps in one of those directions, and wanted to know how to achieve your goal and what a successful career in the field is like, who would you ask for advice? Would you ask someone in law school or boot camp, or would you ask a person who practiced law or had been in the military
for a few years?

Do you know any people around your age that have courted for a couple of years where the boy is three years younger than the girl? Do you know any who courted for four or five years and ended up married?

I have been watching this mating game go on for decades, have been to a lot of weddings,kids weddings and kids friends weddings and probably have met hundreds of married couples in my life. I have never met any that got together and dated through adolescence where the woman is a few years older than the man. There may be some out there, but I never have known of any. Do any of the posters out there know any?

Do you honestly know any girls your age who have gone out with boys three years younger? Among your girl friends have you ever known an eighteen year old who told you she had a crush on a fifteen year old boy, told you she thought that a high school sophmore was really cute and wanted to go out with him?

There is a reason the situation is often reversed.

Previous posters have commented that girls mature earlier than boys. Girl’s bodies and brains develop faster. They are adults younger. They are sexually mature at a younger age and they have a limited time of fertility. They are interested in boys earlier than boys are interested in girls and generally one who is a little older and more mature and is closer to being ready to support a family.

What 15 year old boy do you know right now that you would be interested in romantically? Conversely, what percentage of young women do you know who are interested in guys a couple of years or so older?

My guess is that most of the adult posters would say serious dating, courtship, should be postponed until a bit later, for both sexes. The attraction may be there at 16, but people in this day are not prepared to marry and take care of a family until later when they finish school and become employable.

Why start your engine if you can’t go anywhere? Its difficult for normal healthy people to control their hormones the more time spent together (years) being in a romantic relationship. That includes you. The temptation is to get sexually started early and statistics say when that happens, things generally do not work out well. Most, the majority of teenagers who date for a couple of years, including church goers are sexually active with all its risks. That is what the the numbers say.

You are right that generations ago people got married at 18. That is not practical today. Early to mid 20s is, so why start courting or dating when marriage is impossible for years?

Being young and in the courtship stage of life can be pretty exciting. It is also a dangerous time of life. There are lots of pitfalls and we can see many broken lives and marriages and children hurt by divorces, many unwed mothers, kids with no fathers, stds and abortions. This is serious damage and it all starts with dating. People get hurt badly. Adults who have been through this period, some with bruises and wounds, try to reach back and help young people who are going through it, to get through those years safely and without too much damage and pain.

Serious dating when marriage is not possible for years is not advisable. That goes for you also. It poses a lot of risk and temptation. Sexual self control is difficult for most people at an age when hormones are powerful. The longer the courtship period the more difficult it becomes.

I have four daughters. My wife and I discouraged them from starting romantic relationships until they were out of high school. They kept busy with sports, hobbies, school and church. They had lots of friends of both sexes and did not spend all their time tied up with one person. Most of them went to the world youth days and met a lot of people and some made lifetime friends from all over the country. They were free to grow and learn about themselves and life and develop their own interests for a few in between years until they were ready for adult life.

That may not be for everyone, but by being romantically entangled and spending most of your time with the same person through most of high school you miss out on a lot.
 
blinks A lot of y’all jumped on the age pretty quick. What’s this about disliking it if the genders were reversed?

I was 16 when I began to date my then 19 year old boyfriend. No one threw a fit over it, never even thought of that as a problem really. Now I’m 18 and he’s 21, we’re still together. 3 years isn’t that much of a difference, I have friends who are a few years younger and friends who are a few years older- my boyfriend happens to be a bit older. But I’m a bit more mature than the guys my age, so it suits me just fine.

I’m gonna have to back up Ironman here. It’s not impossible, but he’s a good guy. He’s intelligent, he loves God and has a nice plan with all this. He wanted to become her friend first anyways, so by the time they actually start dating, he may be a bit older and wiser.

As for too young to date seriously- you shouldn’t date flippantly at all. So you imply he shouldn’t be dating. But a mere generation or two ago, people married at 17 and 18. And yes, that was then, this is now, but they were still 18 or so and our grandparents made it work.
Your last paragraph is very true…but at 16, one is still a minor no? I wouldn’t want my 19 yr old son dating someone in high school for a variety of reasons, but if something goes wrong with the relationship, the girl can accuse him of all sorts of things. Simply put, he shouldn’t have been dating a 16 yr old girl at 19. If it worked for you–that’s great, but, I don’t think it’s wise for high schoolers to date people out of high school. Just my thoughts.
 
Hey, wait up guys. You seem to think I like her purely because she’s pretty. That’s not the case, yeah she’s pretty, but she is pure in heart. That is why I like her. Now, I never intended at the start to get into anything serious. And by no means was I even thinking about sexuality, I like the romance part. The sexual part scares me to death. Grandfather’s right, some people have a hard time controling their sexuality, I can honestly say If I was put into a situation where my self control would be tested, I would pass with flying colors.👍

But I did want to be her friend first, and I still do. I don’t remember who said it, but they were right when saying it was selfish of me to want to get her to stay. Pro-life teen is right in saying this isn’t impossible, but bamarider is right when saying this is very improbable. Perhaps before she leaves (if she leaves) I’ll tell her my feelings, and then I will regret nothing. Broken heart, or reciprocated love, doesn’t matter (well kinda) just as long as I know her side. Oh yeah check it out I’m a prayer warrior now!👍
 
Now hold up Grandfather, just wait up a minute. Now your starting to get on my nerves. You called me naive when I said that in the case where my self control would be tested that I would pass. Now wait up there, you went to far. I know myself better than you, despite how old you are. I know that I would never want to sin against God to such an extreme, even something lesser I wouldn’t try. I love God and I’m too afraid of hell to go that far. It’s not your place to say what I could and could not reject. I asked for advice not for some old guy to talk down to me. And quite frankly your sarcasm is getting annoying.

I want to be friends with this girl. I meant to say that if by some chance she actually took interest in me then why not give it a try? I had a romantic interest at first, I realized that it MIGHT not work, And now instead of going straight for her as a girlfriend I am going straight for her as a friend. And like I said before, if by some off chance she feels the same way then why not try it? I do apologize if you take offense to this, but to tell you the truth I’m not happy with you.
 
Hi ironman;

So, your reason for friendship is to hopefully, become more than a friend, or are you generally interested in a true friendship? I ask, because many people who like members of the opposite sex say they will be friends with people they desire to be more than friends with, and when that person starts dating another–suddenly the ‘friend’ is jealous. I have read threads on here that seem to speak to this, also.

My question is…are there no girls your own age that you find at all interesting? This isn’t the only girl out there. :o If my teenage son was obsessing and strategizing this much over one girl who he never dated a day, who is out of high school especially, I would start to worry about why he is spending so much of his time on something like this. Not that I’m worried about you–but be careful that you don’t allow this to become an obsession…friendship or not. I think if you want to be her friend, so be it, but do it *without alternative *reasons. Ask yourself, if she is dating someone else, if you will feel jealous as her friend, etc…If you would be jealous, you might not be able to be a genuine friend to her, because it’s not really friendship that you’re seeking. Know what I mean?

Just my 2 cents.
 
Yeah, I know what ya mean whatevergirl. And what do you mean I’m obsessing? I am not obsessing. An obsession is something you give all your strenght and energy for, that’s not what I’m doing. My energy is focued on becoming closer to God, then I’ll do everything else. Strategizing? Yes I am, I strategize everything I do, that’s just the way I am, analyzing and taking as much into consideration as possible (save the argument that I’ve left things ou, no ones perfect). Oh sure there are other girls out there, but none (so far) are better than this one. Yes, I am interested in true friendship, who’s not?. I’m just saying, if she expresses her feelings then why not give it a shot. I didn’t say that I was working specifically towards that. Friendship first, anything else later. I suppose I would feel a little jealous if she were dating someone, but then wouldn’t that be normal if you felt an attraction?

You see, I don’t know who it was that gave information about the brain, but it’s true. I think with emotion before I think logically. I think that is visible in this thread. I mean I’ll always have feelings for her, and if the opportunity arises where I get a chance at something more than a friendship, well, then I’m going for it, and in the words of Bamarider You can’t tell me nuttin. But if I never get that chance and being a friend with her for the rest of my life if the only option, well then, I can live with that. 👍
 
grandfather…sometimes your bluntness ‘bugs’ me, but I really like what you have to say here. I personally would throw a fit if my son who is still in high school, was hanging around with guys AND girls out of high school. I don’t think there is anything wrong with a 29 yr old woman, and a 25 yr old guy…they are both adults. But, 19 yr old girl and 16 yr old boy?

Ironman–take some advice from grandfather. He means well and has good advice.👍

What I meant about obsessing…just let a friendship unfold naturally. You don’t need to ‘implant’ yourself in this girl’s life…the reality is, if she is a well adjusted healthy 19 yr old girl, she is not hanging out with kids in high school. Seriously.:o And think about your current ‘friendships.’ Did you strategize and analyze how to become friends with those people–or did those relationships with others just unfold? You might be the most mature 16 yo on the planet, but you are a minor, and you are not in college, like the guys and girls she has now come to meet. It doesn’t mean that she is out of the question for you, but don’t force something to happen…be it a friendship or otherwise to happen. If she is around at church, and you see her…stop over to say hello…ask her how she’s been. Send her a birthday card, but don’t be …what’s the word…intrusive. That’s the word. Just be yourself if/when you see her…but, again, if you have a ‘motive’ for the friendship…and that motive is to become romantic at some point…then, be truthful with yourself. Because girls can sense when someone is just trying to be friends…but they are interested in something more.😉

Stay close to Christ…He will guide to things that are healthy and right for your age. Maybe in a few years, if your paths cross, and she is interested in you and you in her-great. I don’t believe in manipulating circumstances…because a lot of the time, the outcome is really REALLY bad.

I thought I knew it all at 16, too…lol

God bless.🙂
 
grandfather…sometimes your bluntness ‘bugs’ me, but I really like what you have to say here.
Got it. Bluntness is a tool you use when other tools fail. I have tried them all now and gotten nowhere. In my earlier life I was a fireman and also a lifeguard at one point. When people are confused and disoriented or drowning it sometimes helps to be very direct and blunt even if they think they know what they are doing.

There is no way to reach our friend with reason or logic. He does not want advice about his situation. He wants advice on how to get what he wants, how to approach and win the girl.

There is an indigenous tribe in South America that takes fourteen year olds and puts them in a hut and does not let them out until they turn eighteen. They are visited by their families. They figure four years of solitary confinement is better than the trouble adolescents create for themselves. What do you think Whatevergirl? Is four years enough?

I better unsubscribe before I get in trouble.
 
Got it. Bluntness is a tool you use when other tools fail. I have tried them all now and gotten nowhere. In my earlier life I was a fireman and also a lifeguard at one point. When people are confused and disoriented or drowning it sometimes helps to be very direct and blunt even if they think they know what they are doing.

There is no way to reach our friend with reason or logic. He does not want advice about his situation. He wants advice on how to get what he wants, how to approach and win the girl.

There is an indigenous tribe in South America that takes fourteen year olds and puts them in a hut and does not let them out until they turn eighteen. They are visited by their families. They figure four years of solitary confinement is better than the trouble adolescents create for themselves. What do you think Whatevergirl? Is four years enough?

I better unsubscribe before I get in trouble.
LOL–Hmmm…only four years?:eek: 😛
I had you pegged so differently, grandfather. I apologize for my snippiness in that one thread…you know the one. You really are very wise, and just direct. Directness is sometimes mistaken for arrogance on a message board…I’m truly sorry for mistaking that in you.:o

I think you’re right…but you know the saying, sometimes we learn from our mistakes.

We just wish the best for you ironman!!🙂
 
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