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Glad I saw this thread. Seems that I recall someone else posted a similar question not too long ago.

We spent several weeks in New Zealand last year when my son in law gave a talk at a biology conference. It is, indeed, the most spectacularly gorgeous place we have ever visited, and we have traveled to many countries. We spent most of our time on the South Island (Christchurch, Queenstown, Milford Sound) and loved every minute. Christchurch is very British-feeling (even has a River Avon!!!) and charming.

We drove from Christchurch to Queenstown, and ended up in the middle of a snowstorm, which closed the mountain roads; we got to know a little town called Omarama much better than we’d planned!

The people were incredibly friendly, and, at least as travelers, we were able to find very reasonably priced lodging and food. (Any kind of ethnic cuisine you can imagine - and it was all terrific!) We saw the original bungee jumping venue near Queenstown (those people are NUTS!) and visited a sheep ranch on Lake Wakatipu, a truly gorgeous place.

Certainly plan a trip there to check it out (brace yourself for the LONG plane trip, though.) There are active Catholic parishes, with pro-life groups, youth groups - all the usual parish organizations. New Zealand is, generally speaking, quite a liberal place, politically.
 
***Wow, dixie…maybe I will pack tonight. :o Gosh, that sounds great!

I love the U.S. I do…but, I think it’s Florida. There are pluses, my job, hubby’s job, my kids’ schools…we like where we moved to…we finally found a parish we feel good about…but the cons are:
  1. phony people
  2. transient people
  3. bugs
  4. one season for 10 months
Now, I knew #3 and 4…when we decided to move here, but having lived in Orlando when we were first married, I don’t remember the transientness (is that a word?) of Florida. I go to south florida sometimes…to visit my sister…ugh, I can’t for the life of me figure out why she stays there. But, my sister being here is a good thing…that’s a plus.

Leaving the country would be dependent on what happens with our government. But, my husband and I both would like to check out some other places. He too has looked into Oregon, and also Seattle, Washington. But, Seattle seems I dunno…rain all the time, from friends who live there.

Thanks for posting this info for me dixie…I appreciate it.🙂 I will have to discuss this with hubby…***
 
rpp said:
Oregon is a beautiful place indeed. The cost of gas is a bit higher here, but most everything is similar to the Southeast. I think it is slightly lower than Florida, but my info comes before the housing bubble burst.

Oregon is really two states, western Oregon and central and Eastern Oregon. The climates and people are radically different. Interestingly enough, The two diocese in Oregon actually follow this division as well. The dividing line if the Cascade Mountains, a chain of volcanic mountains, some of which are still active, like Mt. St. Helens just to the North in Washington state.

Western Oregon is where about 80% of most people live. Politically it tends to be radically leftist where a mainstream Democrat would be considered conservative. People here seem to delight in defying conventional morality. A popular bumper sticker here reads “Keep Portland Weird” There are some wonderful parishes here, but in general they are not as ornate as many back east. All of western Oregon is in the Archdiocese of Portland in Oregon.

It rains about 8 months of the year in Western Oregon with Portland having 220 overcast days and another 60 or 80 partly cloudy days. Humidity rarely climbs above 25% and we have fewer than 10 days where high temperatures exceed 90 and fewer than 10 days where high temperatures do not rise above freezing. Thunderstorms, like what you have there in Florida, are unheard of in western Oregon. The climate along the coast is much more mild but has about 40-50 more cloudy/rainy days than Portland.

Central and eastern Oregon is mostly unpopulated. An area larger than the entire state of Missouri with fewer than a half-million people. Lots of farms and ranches. Politically, people tend to be conservative to very conservative and “cling to their God and their gun”. People tend to be very friendly and there is very much a “live and let live” attitude that is absent from western Oregon due to the prevalence of leftist ideology. All of central and eastern Orgon is in the Diocese of Baker, and the bishop has his cathedral in Bend.

Central and eastern Oregon is a high-desert as the Cascade Mountains form a rain-shadow. Elevation at the valley floors varies from 3500 to 6000 feet. It is sunny 300 days year. Humidity is low 10 - 20%. Annoying insects like mosquitoes simply do not exist in most areas. Highs in the summer often exceed 100, but with very low humidity are quite tolerable. Winter low frequently go below zeros and there are a number of days during the winter where the high does not rise above zero. Obviously, elevation plays a big part in the temperature.

There are several different small mountain ranges in Oregon and many of them were formed differently. The Cascades are all volcanoes, the Blue Mountains are thrust, the Coast Range is an upthrust from tectonic plate collision, Steens Mountain and Hart Mountain are fault-block just to name a few. By the way, I wanted to take a drive into the Cascades this past weekend to take some pictures, but it was snowing too hard.

Oregon also has some utterly unique geological features. Crater Lake National Park, The Columbia River Gorge, Steens Mountain, the rugged Oregon Coast.

Come out and take a look. I love playing tour guide!
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This sounds wonderful…like NZ in the U.S.! 😃

Do you all have good malls? :DThat’s important, I’m sorry, it just is. 😊

My company has offices in Oregon, I’d have to see exactly where. I am wondering how the schools are…my son would be out of high school by the time we’d think about moving, but dd would be a sophomore in h.s.

I have talked with people from our Oregon offices before, and they are so kind…so different from Florida. Now, there are a lot of nice people in Florida, I’m not saying there aren’t…but there is this flashiness…I like to buy nice things, but I’m not flashy, and I just can’t imagine being here beyond our son graduating high school. Back in PA, people had nice homes, etc…but there wasn’t this flashiness…and this transient feeling…like we have had 3 neighbors move in and out across the street from us in less than one year. 😊 That’s crazy.

A CATHOLIC COMMUNITY is important, too. It was so prevalent in PA, where we lived…there was a Catholic church, traditional, on every block it seemed. I’m exaggerating, but it was really great to have such a rich Catholic community in Pittsburgh.

Thank you for this info…if you could answer those questions, I would be forever grateful. You could be a tour guide! Belgarion and you could help dh and I tour the sights! 😃

Oh…do you pay state income tax? That’s a plus in Florida. lol***
 
Belgarion said:
Believe me…it ain’t no different 'ere in Oregon.

(We don’t really talk like that, just to let you know)
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***lol–that’s cute. It can’t be any worse than the Pittsburgh accents…holy smokes.

“How’s the weather up bere?” (bere = there)

“Let’s go dahn-tahn and have a pop n 'nat” (translation = let’s go downtown and have a soda and that)

“Did you take a shah-er yet?” (shower = shah-er)

My husband sometimes says it to bug me…ugh…it irks me. I never picked up that accent, thank goodness! 😃 Belgarion–you’re in high school, right? Or have you graduated? You would be a good person to ask about the schools.***
 
***Oh rpp/Belgarion, by a ‘good’ mall…it has to have the following:

Macys
Hollister
Nordstrom (not a must but nice to have)
Bath & Body works
Aeropostale
Nine West
FYE
Starbucks
  • We live in a suburb about 15 miles north of Tampa Bay, and it takes us 20 minutes to get to a mall like this…it’s important to have a mall, with a movie theater. But, when I drive home …I like nature and quiet. We really have the best of both worlds where we live now…lots of lakes, nature trails, and quiet…but then we are less than 30 minutes from great restaurants and a great mall.***
 
***That’s something for me to think over…the malls in NZ. LOL My dh said to me that if we were to move to Italy, or Spain, or NZ…the way people commute and go about everyday life would take some adjustment for me…he said he would adjust just fine. :o

But, looking at Oregon…those mountains, the weather, the beautiful nature, a strong Catholic community…AND a good mall near nice suburbs? I would definitely consider it.

I really appreciate your time rpp…if you could answer the other questions, that would be great, belgarion, please feel free to jump in.

Oh…and how about nightlife? Hubby and me sometimes like to go to jazz clubs sans the kiddos…any cool nightlife like that?***
 
whatevergirl said:
***lol–that’s cute. It can’t be any worse than the Pittsburgh accents…holy smokes.

“How’s the weather up bere?” (bere = there)

“Let’s go dahn-tahn and have a pop n 'nat” (translation = let’s go downtown and have a soda and that)

“Did you take a shah-er yet?” (shower = shah-er)

My husband sometimes says it to bug me…ugh…it irks me. I never picked up that accent, thank goodness! 😃 Belgarion–you’re in high school, right? Or have you graduated? You would be a good person to ask about the schools.***
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LOL
That’s crazy!

And I’m homeschooled, currently working on graduating a little late (Did some college stuff early…distracted me for a bit)
But I am quite knowledgable about the various high schools in the Eugene/Springfield area. I know some others around the state…but I only visited to play football.
But don’t worry, I have plenty of friends and family that know better 🙂
whatevergirl said:
***Oh rpp/Belgarion, by a ‘good’ mall…it has to have the following:

Macys
Hollister
Nordstrom (not a must but nice to have)
Bath & Body works
Aeropostale
Nine West
FYE
Starbucks
  • We live in a suburb about 15 miles north of Tampa Bay, and it takes us 20 minutes to get to a mall like this…it’s important to have a mall, with a movie theater. But, when I drive home …I like nature and quiet. We really have the best of both worlds where we live now…lots of lakes, nature trails, and quiet…but then we are less than 30 minutes from great restaurants and a great mall.***
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YES, its much like that!!

We have two malls here in this area. Gateway, and Valley River. (I’m going to play tour guide now!" Valley River is definitely the better mall. Its pretty classy, actually.

It has a REALLY nice Regal Movie theater (New one, too, with stadium seating)
It has a MAcy’s, JCPenny, Aero, and plenty of other stores!
I’m not even sure about all of those you listed, but I’m virtually certain there are stores just like it, or even the same stores around here.

I DO know that there are tons of Starbucks around town…Two even across the street from each other…

Valley River has some pretty nice coffee shops, too.
It also has:
a Cutlery shop (Swords!! Got one from there)
Game Stop (Video games)
Children’s Place (Kids clothes)
Sports Authority
…Gosh…tons more PLUS whatever is at Gateway Mall…which isn’t bad either.

To veer a little off the mall subject…

The coast is just a little more than an hour away. Florence is the closest coastal city, I believe. Its got some SWEET spots there. Including Old Town Florence. A couple hours north of there (Maybe less) is Newport (think “Free Willy” It was filmed there) and shortly after is Lincoln City which has some awesome Factory Outlet stores.

Newport also has the Oregon Coast Aquarium (Awesome) Ripley’s believe it or Not (Even more awesome)
The Wax Works (Also awesome)
And The Undersea Garden (Pretty awesome)

Hmm…What else can I say??..Parishes!

My Parish here is St. MAry’s in Downtown Eugene. Its a wonderful church, very beautiful.
Wonderful music, amazing choir and at least one REALLY good priest…for now…The Pastor is nice…he tries sometimes…but he’s a little out of touch in others. The Archbishop is a lot like that, too…Sometimes they ask for money…it gets annoying that they CAN’T wait until AFTER MAss to do it…they do it right in the middle…during Homily time…
But its a great parish with wonderful people…a few bad eggs…but for the most part you won’t notice them.

Can I advertise my state a little more? Any particular thing you want to know?
I know more about my city, and my vacation spots 😛
Maybe I’ll tell you about Bend later…
 
I will come back tomorrow, Belgarion, I have to run…but wanted to say a quick thanks for your posting there! You and rpp could open up a business together…😃
 
Well since half of New Zealand’s population has moved to Australia there’s plenty of room…😃
New Zealand is to Australia what Canada is to America.
 
Hi again–I have to share this…quickly…my son just said that he read that NZ was the first country to take a strong stand for women’s equal rights!

[SIGN]That’s awesome![/SIGN]
 
whatevergirl said:
Hi again–I have to share this…quickly…my son just said that he read that NZ was the first country to take a strong stand for women’s equal rights!

[SIGN]That’s awesome![/SIGN]
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Is that good?

😛

JUST KIDDING!!

Its good!

And I believe they call grilled cheese sandwichs “Toasties”…I’m not sure about that though…
 
I went on a 3 week vacation in New Zealand in the early 1990s and I have a very good friend (of some 20 years) who lives there.

New Zealand is a very long ways away from everywhere else (its a 14 hour plane trip from California) – and contrary to the popular opinion in the USA, you CANNOT take a ferryboat from New Zealand to Australia for a day trip.

New Zealand is a beautiful country, and it is a very small country; you can drive from Te Anau (in the South of the South Island) to Christchurch (in the North of the South Island) in about 6 hours. The roads are mainly two-lane blacktop and you slow down to 30 mph to go through every Middlesex village and farm, but I enjoyed that. They drive on the Left, so the cars are right-hand-drive, and all the small cars are stick shift. (You can’t take your American car.) It doesn’t take too long to learn to drive that way but you have to concentrate – no playing with your Binkie while driving or you’ll end up dead. Especially when crossing bridges, which are frequently only wide enough for one-way traffic and interesting pictorial road signs will tell you if you have the right of way or not. The people are almost all descended from Great Britain, except for the town of Akaroa which is French, and you see the same basic face everywhere you go (it’s a little creepy until you figure it out). Everyone is very friendly and nice, much more polite than they are here. The seasons are reversed.

New Zealand is socialist, much like Eastern Canada, which means the taxes are very high (you will even pay tax on postage stamps) so they can hand out “free” goodies to keep the population friendly, and the amenities are about 20 years behind those available in the States. The houses and apartments are generally small and expensive. Things have improved with a conservative government taking over after the country went bankrupt in the early 1990s and a lot of the government factories, businesses, Air New Zealand etc. were sold to the private sector. The post office was privatized and is now doing so well that one day a year there is free mail anywhere in New Zealand (but you never know which day it will be). If you are sports minded, this is the country for you. There is every sport you can think of available an easy drive away; major sports are rugby and futbol. Teevee may not be 24/7, depending on where you live. CNN is available, although it is CNN International and is surprisingly anti-American.

Backpackers and casual labour are freely available if you are young and don’t mind working, everywhere from organic farms to resorts will hire you without being too fussy about paperwork.

When I was there I stayed in a hotel in Rotarua on the Gold Plated Floor with the special elevator for $93 per night US, and $45 per night was considered extravagant for a motel in a resort area. But that was some time ago, mind you.

I did a thorough car exploration of both islands and I enjoyed it very much; however, I did find it claustrophobic compared to Canada, and the uniformity of the population creeped me out.
 
Appleby said:
I went on a 3 week vacation in New Zealand in the early 1990s and I have a very good friend (of some 20 years) who lives there.

New Zealand is a very long ways away from everywhere else (its a 14 hour plane trip from California) – and contrary to the popular opinion in the USA, you CANNOT take a ferryboat from New Zealand to Australia for a day trip.

New Zealand is a beautiful country, and it is a very small country; you can drive from Te Anau (in the South of the South Island) to Christchurch (in the North of the South Island) in about 6 hours. The roads are mainly two-lane blacktop and you slow down to 30 mph to go through every Middlesex village and farm, but I enjoyed that. They drive on the Left, so the cars are right-hand-drive, and all the small cars are stick shift. (You can’t take your American car.) It doesn’t take too long to learn to drive that way but you have to concentrate – no playing with your Binkie while driving or you’ll end up dead. Especially when crossing bridges, which are frequently only wide enough for one-way traffic and interesting pictorial road signs will tell you if you have the right of way or not. The people are almost all descended from Great Britain, except for the town of Akaroa which is French, and you see the same basic face everywhere you go (it’s a little creepy until you figure it out). Everyone is very friendly and nice, much more polite than they are here. The seasons are reversed.

New Zealand is socialist, much like Eastern Canada, which means the taxes are very high (you will even pay tax on postage stamps) so they can hand out “free” goodies to keep the population friendly, and the amenities are about 20 years behind those available in the States. The houses and apartments are generally small and expensive. Things have improved with a conservative government taking over after the country went bankrupt in the early 1990s and a lot of the government factories, businesses, Air New Zealand etc. were sold to the private sector. The post office was privatized and is now doing so well that one day a year there is free mail anywhere in New Zealand (but you never know which day it will be). If you are sports minded, this is the country for you. There is every sport you can think of available an easy drive away; major sports are rugby and futbol. Teevee may not be 24/7, depending on where you live. CNN is available, although it is CNN International and is surprisingly anti-American.

Backpackers and casual labour are freely available if you are young and don’t mind working, everywhere from organic farms to resorts will hire you without being too fussy about paperwork.

When I was there I stayed in a hotel in Rotarua on the Gold Plated Floor with the special elevator for $93 per night US, and $45 per night was considered extravagant for a motel in a resort area. But that was some time ago, mind you.

I did a thorough car exploration of both islands and I enjoyed it very much; however, I did find it claustrophobic compared to Canada, and the uniformity of the population creeped me out.
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…That actually sounds less appealing than Oregon… :o
 
***Thank you, Appleby. Hmmm…sounds like maybe living there wouldn’t be what I’m looking for. 😦

Belgarion, Oregon is sounding better by the minute. 😃 My husband and I discussed this last night when he arrived home from work…and he seemed open minded to exploring it, again, when our son graduates we will be less limited. Our daughter will be a freshman by then in high school, and she said she wouldn’t mind moving if we decided that. (I am not ready to move now anyways) I have enjoyed living in Florida, but again, Florida is too transient for me. It isn’t what it used to be, rude people everywhere…ugh. I think it’s because people are fearful of getting attached to others, so they keep people at arm’s length or something…for fear that the person will move. My son made a few friends last year, that he was getting close to, and they moved out of the area, already. 🤷
Not saying no one ever moves anywhere else, but in Florida, it seems way too transient for my tastes. I feel like a tourist who happens to work here. 😃

My dh’s concern is the weather…he said, I don’t want to deal with harsh snow 6 months out of the year, like we did in PA…is it like that? My son seemed very open to going to college out there, truth be told, he has never ever liked Florida. He misses snow. My kids used to snow board, growing up in the snow as a kid, makes it hard when you move to climate where it never snows. ***
 
Whatevergirl, if you do not like snow, Western Oregon is for you. It does snow in the Portland area, but perhaps only once or twice during the winter. Many winters we get no snow at all. When it does snow it usually melts in a day or two. We do get ice storms every couple of winters or so.

Of course in the mountains, that is a very different story. Timberline Lodge on Mt Hood, about 75 minute drive from Portland, is at 5400 feet. It is snowing there now as I write this and they have about 200 inches of snow. During the course of the year, they typically get about 50 feet of snow. This is a ski area that is open 12 months of the year.

Now, central and Eastern oregon does get snow. But because they are in a rain shadow, the snow is not generally very deep (less than 2 feet) except in the mountains.
 
whatevergirl said:
***Thank you, Appleby. Hmmm…sounds like maybe living there wouldn’t be what I’m looking for. 😦

Belgarion, Oregon is sounding better by the minute. 😃 My husband and I discussed this last night when he arrived home from work…and he seemed open minded to exploring it, again, when our son graduates we will be less limited. Our daughter will be a freshman by then in high school, and she said she wouldn’t mind moving if we decided that. (I am not ready to move now anyways) I have enjoyed living in Florida, but again, Florida is too transient for me. It isn’t what it used to be, rude people everywhere…ugh. I think it’s because people are fearful of getting attached to others, so they keep people at arm’s length or something…for fear that the person will move. My son made a few friends last year, that he was getting close to, and they moved out of the area, already. 🤷
Not saying no one ever moves anywhere else, but in Florida, it seems way too transient for my tastes. I feel like a tourist who happens to work here. 😃

My dh’s concern is the weather…he said, I don’t want to deal with harsh snow 6 months out of the year, like we did in PA…is it like that? My son seemed very open to going to college out there, truth be told, he has never ever liked Florida. He misses snow. My kids used to snow board, growing up in the snow as a kid, makes it hard when you move to climate where it never snows. ***
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People in Oregon can be rude for sure…but generally…its easy to avoid. But boy there are some nice people, even if you don’t share the same values. (though I’m quite certain if they KNEW, they might not talk to you, lol)

Now, weather in Western Oregon (Like rpp says) isn’t horrendous.
Its been snowing more during the winters (in Eugene at least) recently, which is cool. But its not bad, its only 6 inches or so. Perfect for sledding on the roads.
However, sometimes it’ll be snowing like crazy at my house (I live in the hills) but it’ll be raining downtown!

If you guys like snowboarding, its just a nice drive up to Mt. Bachelor, Hoodoo resort, or even Mt. Hood. I don’t know the drive time…likely a few hours each way…But it’d be worth it IMHO.

One more thing, it doesn’t rain ALL the time in Oregon. It rains alot. But the summers are nice, too. Getting up into the 90’s sometimes here in Eugene. but very clear and suprisingly non-buggy…unless you live near the lake…My sister lives out in Veneta, and I think its fernridge lake that’s nearby…they get lots of mosquitoes.
We barely get any in the south hills.

Oh yeah, and about schools…(I’m only talking about what I know!! So I’m sorry for not reaching that much beyond my home town!) Eugene is a university town, with the U of O right there! The Oregon Ducks are awesome, and we actually had the 2008 Olympic trials here! Its a big track-town, but also a big football town. You will never be in a louder stadium if you go to a duck football game.
A word of warning, though…my sister went to the U of O…its generally a liberal school…which sucks. But I know many Catholics who go there, and have been just fine.

There are about 4 or 5 high schools in town. South Eugene, North Eugene, Churchill and Sheldon. South is my place, but its liberal…ugh…I’m not sure about the others…but there is a Catholic HS, Marist, which is pretty good. My sis went there, too…but it is a private school…tuition is probably horrendous now.

Anyways…Is there anything else you want to know? The Oregon Informational Society of rpp and Belgarion will be happy to answer!
 
Belgarion said:
People in Oregon can be rude for sure…but generally…its easy to avoid. But boy there are some nice people, even if you don’t share the same values. (though I’m quite certain if they KNEW, they might not talk to you, lol)

Well, if they’re ANYTHING like you and rpp…then, forget it! KIDDING. 😃

Now, weather in Western Oregon (Like rpp says) isn’t horrendous.
Its been snowing more during the winters (in Eugene at least) recently, which is cool. But its not bad, its only 6 inches or so. Perfect for sledding on the roads.
However, sometimes it’ll be snowing like crazy at my house (I live in the hills) but it’ll be raining downtown!

This is good to know.

If you guys like snowboarding, its just a nice drive up to Mt. Bachelor, Hoodoo resort, or even Mt. Hood. I don’t know the drive time…likely a few hours each way…But it’d be worth it IMHO.

One more thing, it doesn’t rain ALL the time in Oregon. It rains alot. But the summers are nice, too. Getting up into the 90’s sometimes here in Eugene. but very clear and suprisingly non-buggy…unless you live near the lake…My sister lives out in Veneta, and I think its fernridge lake that’s nearby…they get lots of mosquitoes.
We barely get any in the south hills.

***You don’t have large spiders, do you? :eek: That’s a concern. I would love to try out Australia, but there’s no way (even though Trishie on CAF reassured me) I could live with those spiders…I have watched National Geo, and they are HUGE. They are in the visers of cars, when you pull the viser down to block the sun, one falls on your lap. :eek::eek: I can’t live in a place like this, although Australia sounds so lovely. (otherwise:D) My husband said that is way too far for us, also. ***

Oh yeah, and about schools…(I’m only talking about what I know!! So I’m sorry for not reaching that much beyond my home town!) Eugene is a university town, with the U of O right there! The Oregon Ducks are awesome, and we actually had the 2008 Olympic trials here! Its a big track-town, but also a big football town. You will never be in a louder stadium if you go to a duck football game.
A word of warning, though…my sister went to the U of O…its generally a liberal school…which sucks. But I know many Catholics who go there, and have been just fine.

How about public schools, do you know anything about that? Public high school.

There are about 4 or 5 high schools in town. South Eugene, North Eugene, Churchill and Sheldon. South is my place, but its liberal…ugh…I’m not sure about the others…but there is a Catholic HS, Marist, which is pretty good. My sis went there, too…but it is a private school…tuition is probably horrendous now.

Anyways…Is there anything else you want to know? The Oregon Informational Society of rpp and Belgarion will be happy to answer!
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I hope you won’t bill me. 😃
 
whatevergirl said:
I hope you won’t bill me. 😃
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Don’t worry. I won’t 😛
Well, if they’re ANYTHING like you and rpp…then, forget it! KIDDING.
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You don’t have large spiders, do you? That’s a concern. I would love to try out Australia, but there’s no way (even though Trishie on CAF reassured me) I could live with those spiders…I have watched National Geo, and they are HUGE. They are in the visers of cars, when you pull the viser down to block the sun, one falls on your lap. I can’t live in a place like this, although Australia sounds so lovely. (otherwise) My husband said that is way too far for us, also.
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Er…How large do you mean?

Now, there are SOME large spiders…But only in certain areas. For example, our house has what’s called the “Hobo spider”…These are pretty big if you’re not used to any large spiders at all…Not as big as a tarantula, but way bigger than a house spider.
They aren’t too common though…just around my area…lol
They get in the house all the time.
How about public schools, do you know anything about that? Public high school.
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Listed them there.
I never went to public HS though. But my mother says North Eugene is pretty nice. I can ask around if you want, though. (BTW, there is a homeschooling option, too! A lot of my friends go to Homesource, which is some homeschooling thing. pretty cool by their testimony)
 
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