Poem of the Man-God

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Happy Easter Adrift,
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 The amount of material that I’m finding online to support these Priest’s claims is literally overwhelming, it will take me a day or two just to sort it out.

 Going through this thread, I was impressed by Eliza10’s verifications of Jesus having blonde hair and blue eyes.  Doing some quick searches, it appears that Maria Valtorta is the only visionary describing Jesus’ physical appearance correctly, as confirmed by documentation of eye witnesses and the Shroud.
“In 1964, a tablet from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar was recovered in an archeological find (a copy of this letter is in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.) which describes Jesus’ physical appearance. It describes Jesus as having golden colored hair. Another unearthed description by Publius Lentrelus describes Jesus’ eyes as bright blue.” (historychannel.com).

thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm

holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/williamsaunders/straightanswers/shroudofturin.asp

Have a Blessed Easter
You are using arguments that have been used before and refuted.
See post 51 and post 53.
Having a letter in the Congressional Library is not proof of authenticity. You will also find the false oath of the Jesuits there too.
The Catholic Encyclopedia says that both the Pontius Pilate letter and Publius Lentulus document to be forgeries.
During the persecutions under Maximin in the fourth century spurious anti-Christian Acts of Pilate were composed in Syria, as we learn from Eusebius. It is probable that the pseudographic letter was forged as an offset to these.
Publius Lentulus is a fictitious person, said to have been Governor of Judea before Pontius, and to have written the following letter to the Roman Senate:
It is hard for me to believe that you have gone through this thread and missed the refutation not only by me but others to Eliza.
Have you read the links I provided? I have read yours.
 
The Apocrypha link does not specifically mention the letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar, which describes Jesus’ physical description. It attempts to discredit “All these things Pilate”, supporting contentions with insubstantial statements such as: “it is possible” or “probable’. The authentication of the Congressional Library would be more viable.
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 Publius Lentuulus’s letter is mentioned, but contested with the same whimsical notations: “no ancient writer alludes to this production” and “may have’.

 The link below also contains a blonde hair blue eyes description by Official Court Documents dating back to the time of Jesus (Archko Volume).

 And again, these descriptions are confirmed by Shroud analysis.
thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm
 
Preliminarily, I find it impossible to believe that three such notable Priests and the “Official Vatican Recording Cardinal” would conspire to bear false witness against a sitting Pope. That would be grounds for immediate excommunication. The evidence would be the sworn testimonies, which details how the Holy Office cogently blocked from them from gaining another Papal audience. As “the Head of the Holy Office “took offense at being circumnavigated in the Church approval process”.
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 Not disobedient, but obedient.  The Priests had no choice but to be obedient to the Pope: “If anyone says that the Roman Pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the Churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema."

 “Other than these three who claim what the Pope said, is there any other evidence that the Pope read and gave approval?”  Yes, the Official Vatican Recording Cardinal Edouard Gagnon who testified in writing that the Papal Imprimatur and Order to Publish was valid.

 “What you can't get around is the Pope did nothing when Giovanni Pepe and Father Berruti, O.P., condemned the Poem.”  As outlined in the testimony, the Priests were forbidden to speak, in this way Cardinal Ottaviani (author of the summons) was able to prevent them from informing Pepe and Berruti of the Papal Imprimatur.  Furthermore, Pepe’s and Berruti’s only role was to read the judgement.  This was all done without Pope Pius XII knowledge.  The Holy Office was endeavoring to ensure that they would never be circumnavigated again.

 “Canon 1385 (Index of Forbidden Books) requires a Papal signature to validate the decree, but does not require the Pontiff to personally read the writings.  The Article published in L'Osservatore Romano was by an anonymous author.  No one every discovered who invented the wording: "A Badly Fictionalized Life of Jesus".

 “The key question: Why did Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani wait till volume four (almost three years later), to act? The Gospel as it was Revealed to Me (The English version; The Poem of the Man-God, came much later), was published in 1956 with Pope Pius XII Imprimatur and statement affixed to the inside cover.  This must have made Cardinal Ottaviani livid, but he had no choice but to wait, his hands were tied.  Placing the Poem on the Index of Forbidden books would require a Papal signature, which would be impossible to obtain.  Pope Pius XII would certainly not sign a decree against His own Imprimatur, and the three Priests were well aware of this.  As long as Pope Pius XII was alive, the Poem could be published with the Papal Imprimatur, unchallenged.  When Pope Pius XII past away on October 9, 1958, the Lion was finally out of the way.  As soon as the next Pontiff, Pope John XXIII, took office, Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani's first and foremost action was to have Maria Valtorta’s and Sister Maria Faustina Kowalska’s writings formally condemned on the Index of Forbidden Books, (Pope Pius XII would not sign the condemnation of Sister Faustina’s writings).  The condemnation decrees could now be placed before the new Pontiff, who signed the decrees at the request of Cardinal Ottaviani.  Obviously just taking Office, Pope John XXIII did not have the personal time and luxury of reading Maria Valtorta’s 15,000 pages of Private Revelation and Saint Faustina’s Life works.”

 There is a major difference between the actions of these two Popes.  Pope Pius XII personally examined the writings for 10 months, Pope John XXIII’s signing was a common authorization formality to Cardinal Ottaviani’s final judgment.

 “In 1966, Pope Paul VI took the action of suppressing the Index of Forbidden Books, which liberated the Poem from ecclesiastical restriction. Yes, the same Pope who endorsed "The Virgin Mary In The Writings of Maria Valtorta". Moreover, when Pope Paul VI was Archbishop of Milan, after evaluating Maria Valtorta's writings, ordered her entire works to be sent to the Milan Seminary library. Pope Paul VI accomplished three significant actions to remove barriers and promulgate the Poem.”
 
I find that about 25% Roman Catholics do not believe the Medjugorje Apparitions, for the 75% that do:

“Additional positive affirmations come from Medjugorje visionaries Maria Pavlovich and Vicka Ivankovich, who questioned Mary regarding these works and received favorable confirmations. The following is an excerpt from a supporting web site, "Maria Pavlovich and Vicka Ivankovich were specifically requested to ask the Madonna about it. So in 1985, Maria Pavlovich upon hearing someone ask about the Poem, stated that two years previously a Franciscan friar had requested her to ask the Madonna about it. The visionary then became very serious and said: “Maria Valtorta! All true. The Poem of the Man-God. The Madonna said two years ago, all true! Dictated by Jesus!” Likewise, in a recorded interview with Attorney Janice Connell of the Pittsburgh Center for Peace on January 27, 1988, Connell asked the visionary Vicka Ivankovich if there were any other books Our Lady had told her about. Vicka replied, “Yes, The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth. Our Lady said, if a person wants to know Jesus he should read The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth.” Attorney Janice Connell still has the original video of this interview, which she has shown to several prayer groups. The Poem received another Medjugorje related approval during a broadcast interview on Mother Angelica’s EWTN cable network, which aired an interview with Medjugorje seer Marija Pavlovich conducted by retired New Orleans Archbishop Philip Hannan. On March 4, 1992 on the Archbishop’s Focus program, Bob, a call in viewer from Milwaukee asked Marija, on the air, “What exactly did our Lady say regarding the Poem of the Man-God?” Marija responded that our Lady told her, “You can read it.”
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 In an interview with Elliot Miller and Kenneth Samples (who turned out to be critical of Medjugorje), Vicka Ivankovic confirmed Our Ladies endorsement of Maria Valtorta’s writings.  The testimony can be found in their resulting book, "The Cult of the Virgin", Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, MI , 1992, p. 150.
mariavaltortawebring.com/Pages/014_1988.htm
 
The Apocrypha link does not specifically mention the letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar, which describes Jesus’ physical description. It attempts to discredit “All these things Pilate”, supporting contentions with insubstantial statements such as: “it is possible” or “probable’. The authentication of the Congressional Library would be more viable.
There is not authentication just because it is in the Library as I pointed out which you ignored the Jesuit Oath is there too. That has been shown to be false as is this false letter. You are incorrect when you say it does not specifically mention the letter.
n the apocryphal Acts of Peter and Paul there is embodied a letter purporting to have been sent by Pontius Pilate to the Emperor Claudius.
Publius Lentuulus’s letter is mentioned, but contested with the same whimsical notations: “no ancient writer alludes to this production” and “may have’.
This man did not exist.
The links I gave were to the Catholic Encyclopedia which would have more credence than the sources you quote.
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 The link below also contains a blonde hair blue eyes description by Official Court Documents dating back to the time of Jesus (Archko Volume).
I wondered when you would get around to this
As I began to investigate the Archko Volume, I found that critics consider it to be an apocryphal work at best and a probable fraud at worst!
And again, these descriptions are confirmed by Shroud analysis.
Considering that the Shroud is still debated as being the burial cloth of Jesus and that you have only ONE person who Speculates this is not very good confirmation.
 
The Letter of Pontius Pilate, Which He Wrote to the Roman Emperor, Concerning Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Cæsar the emperor, greeting.
Upon Jesus Christ, whose case I had clearly set forth to you in my last, at length by the will of the people a bitter punishment has been inflicted, myself being in a sort unwilling and rather afraid. A man, by Hercules, so pious and strict, no age has ever had nor will have. But wonderful were the efforts of the people themselves, and the unanimity of all the scribes and chief men and elders, to crucify this ambassador of truth, notwithstanding that their own prophets, and after our manner the sibyls, warned them against it: and supernatural signs appeared while he was hanging, and, in the opinion of philosophers, threatened destruction to the whole world. His disciples are flourishing, in their work and the regulation of their lives not belying their master; yea, in his name most beneficent. Had I not been afraid of the rising of a sedition among the people, who were just on the point of breaking out, perhaps this man would still have been alive to us; although, urged more by fidelity to your dignity than induced by my own wishes, I did not according to my strength resist that innocent blood free from the whole charge brought against it, but unjustly, through the malignity of men, should be sold and suffer, yet, as the Scriptures signify, to their own destruction. Farewell. 28th March.
No description and this is also considered a fraud.
 
Preliminarily, I find it impossible to believe that three such notable Priests and the “Official Vatican Recording Cardinal” would conspire to bear false witness against a sitting Pope. That would be grounds for immediate excommunication. The evidence would be the sworn testimonies, which details how the Holy Office cogently blocked from them from gaining another Papal audience. As “the Head of the Holy Office “took offense at being circumnavigated in the Church approval process”.
unsubstantiated. You find it impossible that priest would conspire but you find it reliable that the Holy Office blocked them?
Not disobedient, but obedient. The Priests had no choice but to be obedient to the Pope:**They were not being obedient to the Pope. ** “If anyone says that the Roman Pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the Churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema."Interestingly you do not apply this to the disobedience to the priest.
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 “Other than these three who claim what the Pope said, is there any other evidence that the Pope read and gave approval?”  Yes, the Official Vatican Recording Cardinal Edouard Gagnon who testified in writing that the Papal Imprimatur and Order to Publish was valid.**Where is this testimony?An official source not one that is a supporter of this.
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“What you can’t get around is the Pope did nothing when Giovanni Pepe and Father Berruti, O.P., condemned the Poem.” As outlined in the testimony, the Priests were forbidden to speak, in this way Cardinal Ottaviani (author of the summons) was able to prevent them from informing Pepe and Berruti of the Papal Imprimatur. Furthermore, Pepe’s and Berruti’s only role was to read the judgement. This was all done without Pope Pius XII knowledge. The Holy Office was endeavoring to ensure that they would never be circumnavigated again.The Pope was oblivious in his office
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 “The key question: Why did Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani wait till volume four (almost three years later), to act? The Gospel as it was Revealed to Me (The English version; The Poem of the Man-God, came much later), was published in 1956 with Pope Pius XII Imprimatur and statement affixed to the inside cover.
However, in 1949, two commissioners of the Holy Office, Msgr.
Giovanni Pepe and Father Berruti, O.P., condemned the “Poem,” ordering
Berti to hand over every copy and sign an agreement not to publish it.
Father Berti returned the manuscripts to Valtorta and handed over only his
typed versions
However, when Fr. Berti tried to have the Vatican Press publish the work, it was rejected by two commissioners of the Holy Office who had studied the works.
Pope Pius XII did nothing to stop this rejection, which was followed later by a condemnation, when Fr. Berti went to a lay publisher to publish the works (even though he had signed an agreement not to publish the works).
 
In 1966, Pope Paul VI took the action of suppressing the Index of Forbidden Books, which liberated the Poem from ecclesiastical restriction. Yes, the same Pope who endorsed “The Virgin Mary In The Writings of Maria Valtorta”. Moreover, when Pope Paul VI was Archbishop of Milan, after evaluating Maria Valtorta’s writings, ordered her entire works to be sent to the Milan Seminary library. Pope Paul VI accomplished three significant actions to remove barriers and promulgate the Poem.”
In 1959 when the “Poem” was put on the Index of Forbidden Books, it was described as “a badly fictionalized life of Christ” (L’Osservatore Romano, quoted by Cardinal Ratzinger in a letter to Cardinal Siri, 31 January 1985). Catholics were warned that it was not to be considered as revealed by God, and in fact, under the rules of the Index, no one, not even a priest, could read the volumes without a serious reason (e.g. to refute its errors) and the permission of the bishop or religious superior. Despite Roman judgements against the work its promoters have continued on their merry way, publishing and promoting it without interruption.
In 1966 when the Index was abolished many thought this meant the works listed on it could be read. Cardinal Ratzinger addressed this issue with respect to the “Poem of the Man-God,” in the aforementioned Letter saying,
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"After the dissolution of the Index, when some people thought the printing and distribution of the work was permitted, people were reminded again in 'LOsservatore Romano' (June 15, 1966) that, as was published in the 'Acta Apostolicae Sedis' (1966), the Index retains its moral force despite its dissolution. A decision against distributing and recommending a work, which has not beeen condemned lightly, may be reversed, but only after profound changes that neutralize the harm which such a publication could bring forth among the ordinary faithful."
 
TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age.

Ronald L. Conte. Jr. claims to be a Theologian. A Theologian is in most cases is a Priest, and is educated in Sacred Theology, (Doctor of Sacred Theology - STD). The bio on his site falls far short of the rudimentary qualifications.

catholicplanet.com/bio.htm

Bio - My name is Ronald L. Conte Jr. (a.k.a. Ron Conte). I am a layperson, a practicing Roman Catholic, a disciple of Christ. I am the editor and owner of CatholicPlanet.com. I write and publish Catholic theology books, booklets, and articles. I have a lowly bachelor’s degree in philsophy/theology from Boston College.
 
“An unwritten Imprimatur is no Imprimatur”?

“If anyone says that the Roman Pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the Churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema."

Where does it say, only in writing? Or can be voided by a celebrity television evangelist? I don’t see any loop holes here.
 
"Father Mitch Pacwa: No less an authority than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reiterates the Church’s rejection of the claims made for The Poem of the Man-God.

Comment: The key word is “reiterates”. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict, was Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani’s immediate successor in heading the Holy Office. He was personally groomed by Cardinal Ottaviani to become the new prefect of the Congregation. Cardinal Ratzinger did not personally scrutinize Maria Valtorta’s writings, he reiterated (simply upheld), his mentor’s verdict, avoiding the undermining his predecessor.

It is important to remember that in 1978, a Polish cardinal petitioned the Vatican to cease the suppression of Sister Maria Faustina Kowalska’s Divine Mercy devotion and to remove her writings from the Index of Forbidden books. The Vatican replied in the negative, upholding the condemnation and suppression. Which we now know was in error."

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1619458/posts?page=7
 
I found this on Fish Eaters:

Maria Valtorta keeps perfect track of Jesus, Mary and over 500 additional personalities. None of which are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Jesus is appropriately in Jerusalem and Judea for Passover and Pentecost in all four spring seasons, and at the Tabernacles in all three fall seasons of His ministry. Jesus traverses the land of Palestine from one end to another in at least six cycles (some 4,000 miles), ministering in some 350 named locations, including places in Palestine known only to specialized archaeologists.

The 10,000 pages of Divine Revelation were given by our Lord in completely random succession. Maria records the visions in simple bound school note books, with no corrections, in the random order as they were given. On the surface, the complete work appeared as a well shuffled deck of cards. Towards the end, Jesus provides the proper sequence, the key, which could not be realized until the mammoth task of typing the manuscript was completed, allowing the individual pages to be sequenced in the specified succession. When finally placed in the correct progression, the puzzle materializes into a seamless perfect flowing chronology.

Geologist and Mineralogist Dr. Vittorio Tredici points out how Maria Valtorta described and correctly named several towns and villages that were not even discovered until after her death. David J. Webster posted a landmark 31 page article that fundamentally proves the authenticity of Maria Valtorta’s writings. The “Poem of the Man-God” may be the very first Private Revelation ever to be scientifically proven genuine. David meticulously and methodically examines Maria Valtorta’s strikingly accurate descriptions of first Century Palestine for every piece of topographical evidence. He then compares this evidence with currently known facts that are only now being proven authentic. “Over thirty percent or 79 (all entries marked with * and ) of the 255 geographical sites in Palestine mentioned in the Poem were not listed in the 1939 International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ISBE) Atlas. 62 (all) of these 79 were not even listed in the 184 page Macmillan Bible Atlas (MBA) published in 1968. [Maria Valtorta died in 1961] Where did Maria Valtorta get all these names? For a first century eye-witness to include so many obscure and unknown names would, of course, be expected. And most surprising is that these names, obscure and unknown in the 1940’s, are only now being proven authentic. 52 of these 62 have no biblical reference whatever, and 17 of these with no biblical reference have been either indirectly confirmed as authentic by recent “ancient external sources” found in the Macmillan Bible Atlas (1968) or actually listed in the HarperCollins Atlas of the Bible (1989). This makes a total of 29 confirmations since the 1939 ISBE atlas listing. Also among those 62 sites are mentioned the ruins of 6 ancient Palestinian cities some corresponding to the modern consensus on location. In addition, Valtorta’s precise descriptions of the natural topography of Palestine from numerous locations and the information about the outside pagan world of that day, including people, places, customs, Greek and Roman mythology, related in the conversations of that day, are strikingly correct.”
 
To start:

EWTN Lovers, EWTN experts dispel Richard Conte, Jr.
catholicplanet.com

“But Conte goes off to predict the very year of Christ’s return (we don’t think anyone knows that), and it is best to stay, in this case, perhaps, with the more familiar prophets – like St. John Bosco.”

The guys off the deepend. He predicts Christs return. No one knows the year, month, week, day, hour, minute, second, “When Christ’s going to return,” Not even Christ knows that is clearly written in the Bible and in the Catechism. Read and study your Bibles, you’re not ready for the big guns “Poem of the Man-God”; is Advanced Christianity. Those who have studied their Bibles and Hunger for more of the Word of God, Jesus Christ. Come and read about your Savior Jesus Christ in more depth and intimacy.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him. 24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. 25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.

24:36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. 37 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be

Also SSPX followers, there’s a book out last year late I think that dispels EWTN.

Link: networkgonewrong.org/

EWTN is not Rome, the Vatican. Sorry to point that out, they are a TV evangelical Program.

If your looking horizontal instead of Vertical, time to change habits.
Your Savior is God. His name is Jesus Christ. The Church is His Mystical Body of which we are members together in the Union of the Holy Spirit. With the Pontiff as the Guide who speaks on Earth who’s flesh and blood. The invisible God speaks through, this man the Pontiff. We are part of the Mystical, Invisible body of Christ, the visibility being the members on Earth.

Trust in the Lord with all your Heart. Proverbs 3:5-6

If you seek Me you will find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. Jeremias 29:13

Jesus says in John 10:14 I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me.

Jesus says in Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.

But we do not speak of the earthly things, we speak of spiritual things, of Heavenly things. Such are they who seek it. Who want to be there. And soon, I might add.

Peace and good will
 
From a very well written perspective: Part 1

The following observations are offered towards a more accurate understanding of the present Church status of The Poem of the Man-God. There is no intention here to provide a comprehensive response to various objections which have been circulated, some of which suggest that the present status of The Poem is morally comparable to a “forbidden book.” The desire here is simply to give an initial response to some of the most frequently asked questions and objections regarding The Poem from ecclesiastical and theological perspectives.
  1. It has been objected that Pope Pius XII never gave approval for The Poem of the Man-God since this approval was not printed in the February 27, 1948 edition of L’Osservatore Romano, which documented the papal audience of Pius XII with Father Migliorini, Father Berti and Father Cecchin, spiritual directors and custodians of The Poem of the Man-God. There is no substantial reason to doubt the oral statement granted by Pope Pius XII during a papal audience given to the spiritual director of Maria Valtorta, Father Romuald Migliorini, O.S.M., Father Berti, O.S.M., and Father Andrea Cecchin, Prior of the Order of the Servants of Mary (papal audience, February 26, 1948; L’Osservatore Romano, February 27, 1948), (3) whereby they record the words of the pope saying, “Publish this work as it is. There is no need to give an opinion about its origin, whether it be extraordinary or not. Who reads it, will understand. One hears of many visions and revelations. I will not say they are all authentic; but there are some of which it could be said that they are.” Speculations on “how much was read” by Pius XII whether in “whole or in part” posed to undermine the oral statement of Pius XII, as faithfully transmitted by the Prior of the Order of the Servites of Mary, would represent speculation without factual foundation.
  2. The objection has also been posed that Father Béa, recognized Vatican scripture expert, only read part of The Poem manuscript. Father Béa, who eventually became Cardinal Béa, rector of the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Vatican II father, and Chairman of several Vatican biblical commissions, offered his testimony that “as far as exegesis is concerned, I did not find any errors in the parts I examined.” (4) To infer from this statement that he failed to read the parts of The Poem that do contain doctrinal or exegetical problems is again mere conjecture without factual foundation.
  3. Doubt has been cast on whether or not one can licitly read The Poem because it had previously been placed on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Holy Office. The placing of The Poem on the Index should not be connoted to be a direct papal act by Pope John XXIII. That the Holy Father was informed of the action would be an appropriate conclusion. That the Holy Father personally read, analyzed and concluded to its need to be placed on the Index would be beyond the evidence. Nonetheless, obedience to the decrees of the Holy Office in reference to the Forbidden Book Index while the Index was in existence was required and should have been strictly observed. The issue of obedience or disobedience regarding the initial publication of The Poem constitutes an entirely separate issue from the relevant theological issue of the inherent doctrinal integrity and orthodoxy of The Poem text itself.
  4. The dissolution of the Index of Forbidden Books in 1966 denotes a priori that there is no longer any book canonically forbidden by the Church to be read under penalty of disobedience. While books can be deemed doctrinally erroneous by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the dissolution of the Index by the Holy Office itself makes clear that there no longer remains any book the reading of which by members of the Faith would in itself constitute an act of canonical or ecclesiastical disobedience.
To conclude, therefore, that the reading of The Poem is to be disobedient to the Church due to its previous placing on the Index would be to inordinately put forward a restriction beyond the current restrictions which the Magisterium in general, and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in specific, have put forth.
  1. The 1966 statement of the Holy Office that the “Index retains its moral force despite its dissolution” may call the Catholic reader to special diligence and discernment in examining works previously found on the Index. However, this should not be inappropriately extended to support a conclusion that reading any work previously placed on the Index would still presently constitute a formal act of disobedience, as if an Index of Forbidden Books was still in full operational existence and force. Similar reasoning could lead to the mistaken concept of a continued “moral binding force” for books previously prohibited by competent ecclesiastical authorities and later fully exonerated, imprimatured, and promulgated by the ecclesiastical authorities. An excellent example of this is the prohibition of St. Faustina Kowalska’s diary, Divine Mercy in My Soul, by ecclesiastical authorities, which was later granted the Imprimatur and full Church approval. (5)
  2. The former Cardinal Ratzinger has also been cited as personally condemning The Poem. Cardinal Ratzinger’s 1985 comment to a fellow cardinal in a letter that speaks against the supernatural character of the literary forms of The Poem was not in the canonical or ecclesiastical form of an official and universally binding decree of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Nor did Cardinal Ratzinger in any way prohibit the reading of The Poem.
 
Part 2

It can be helpful to keep in mind that when the former Cardinal Ratzinger and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith did indeed examine a text which they concluded contained intrinsic doctrinal error, they did not hesitate to issue, when deemed appropriate, an officially promulgated “Notification” concerning the respective text due to its inherent doctrinal errors. (6) No such Notification has ever been issued by the postconciliar CDF regarding The Poem of the Man-God.
  1. A number of other posed objections against The Poem appear lacking in serious theological foundation. One objection states that the lengthiness of the speeches of Jesus and Mary manifests evidence of a lack of authenticity. This opinion cannot substantiate a conclusion of doctrinal error, but rather comprises a very subjective and personal opinion as to the appropriate duration, or lack thereof, of the teachings of Jesus and the dialogues of Mary.
Moreover, the objection posed that The Poem makes reference to a sexual element in the Original Sin and therefore is doctrinally erroneous also cannot be theologically substantiated. The Church has always permitted a significant diversity regarding concepts of the nature of the Original Sin committed by Adam and Eve, and both St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas in fact held that the material element of Original Sin (peccatum originale materialiter) included to some degree the aspect of concupiscence. (7) Such theological opinion certainly does not indicate a doctrinal error, regardless of a legitimate difference of opinion concerning the potential element of sexuality in relation to the first sin of Adam and Eve.

Yet a further objection of alleged doctrinal error is the reference found in The Poem that Mary is a “second-born of the Father” after Jesus, the Father’s first born. Far from constituting doctrinal error, this mariological position was first posited by the Eastern Church author, John the Geometer, in the tenth century. (8) This remains an acceptable mariological concept proximate to the Franciscan school of Mariology, is complementary to the eternal predestination of Mary with Jesus in the Incarnation, and is referred to by Blessed Pius IX in the papal statement defining the Immaculate Conception, Ineffabilis Deus. (9)

In addition, the extensive mariology contained in The Poem was also the subject of a 400 page study written by arguably the greatest Italian mariologist of the twentieth century and Consultor to the Holy Office, Rev. Gabriel Roschini, O.S.M. (10) In a letter of January 17, 1974, Father Roschini received the congratulations of Pope Paul VI for his work entitled, The Virgin Mary in the Writings of Maria Valtorta. The letter from the Secretary of State notes, “the Holy Father thanks you wholeheartedly for this new testimony of your respectful regards and wishes you to receive from your labor the consolation of abundant spiritual benefits.” (11) Neither the papal benediction granted by Pope Paul VI nor the papal congratulations issued through the Secretary of State would have been granted to a text based on a series of private revelations which were “forbidden” or declared “doctrinally erroneous” by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

In sum, The Poem of the Man-God constitutes a text which may be licitly read and discerned by the contemporary faithful Catholic. I would invite interested Catholics to examine The Poem for themselves, while always retaining a determinate commitment of obedience to the final and definitive judgement of the Church regarding these reported private revelations. I personally have found these writings to be particularly inspiring in bringing to yet greater light and life the fathomless mysteries of the life of our Incarnate God as contained in the ineffable and infallible Word of God in the New Testament.

The following documented evaluations may also be of assistance in an authentic and integral discernment and examination of The Poem of the Man-God:

His Excellency, Archbishop Alfonso Carinci, Secretary of the Congregation of the Sacred Rites (1946):

There is nothing therein which is contrary to the Gospel. Rather, this work, a good complement to the Gospel, contributes towards a better understanding of its meaning. (12)

Fr. Dreyfus, of the French Biblical and Archeological School, Jerusalem (1986):

I was greatly impressed on finding in Maria Valtorta’s work the names of at least six or seven towns, which are absent from the Old and New Testaments. These names are known but to a few specialists, and through non-biblical sources… Now, how could she have known these names, if not through the revelations she claims that she had? (13)

Msgr. Ugo Lattanzi, dean of the Faculty of Theology of the Lateran Pontifical University, Adviser to the Holy Office (1951):

The author could not have written such an abundant amount of material without being under the influence of a supernatural power. (14)

Fr. Marco Giraudo, O.P., Commissioner of the Holy Office in 1961, to Fr. Berti, representing the Order of the Servants of Mary (1961):

You have our complete approval to continue the publication of this second edition of Maria Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God. (15)

Fr. Agostino Béa (future Cardinal), S.J., Rector of the Pontifical Biblical Institute and Advisor to the Holy Office (1952):

I have read in typed manuscripts many of the books written by Maria Valtorta… As far as exegesis is concerned, I did not find any errors in the parts which I examined. (16)

Fr. Gabriel M. Roschini, O.S.M., Professor at the “Marianum” Pontifical Faculty of Theology in Rome, author of 130 books, and Advisor to the Holy Office (1972):
 
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I must candidly admit that the Mariology found in Maria Valtorta’s writings, whether published or not, has been for me a real discovery. No other Marian writing, not even the sum total of all the writings I have read and studied were able to give me as clear, as lively, as complete, as luminous, or as fascinating an image, both simple and sublime, of Mary, God’s masterpiece. (17)

Dr. Vittorio Tredici, geologist and mineralogist, Italy (1952):

I wish to underline the author’s unexplainably precise knowledge of Palestine in its panoramic, topographic, geological and mineralogical aspects. (18)
 
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