So just because there are such weapons already out there, I guess we shall just allow more. Or better yet, here’s a novel idea. Maybe we ought to follow their cue and do like other countries and granted it may take a very long time since we are behind them in enacting such laws, but in time maybe we too might not lead the developed world in gun violence.There are too many guns already out there in the public for any new law like this to be remotely effective. (the ones the criminals use are not usually registered) The difference in those other countries is they have had laws against these weapons for a very long time.
Same thing with street drugs, its highly illegal to possess even a small amount of heroin, but that doesnt change the fact that it can still be bought in every city in the entire country, so just because there is a law against something, does not mean it is anywhere near effective.
However, that does not mean he had any dealings with ISIS.The shooter pledged loyalty to ISIS in the 911 call…cnn.com/
He was a domestic terrorist, radical Islam. These people know how to access and use weapons. Let’s give the gun restrictions vs rights thing a rest, at least long enough to mourn for the victims of another heinous act of terrorism on our own soil - the worst in the nation’s history.
But the 2nd amendment is not the most important thing for us to worry about.A vote for Johnson is a vote for Clinton and possibly the next 50 years of the Supreme Court.
Considering what happened here, 2nd Amendment is very important as well.
Exactly, just using scare tactics.False. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Hillary. I find it very hard to believe that Trump has gone from chums with the Clintons to their mortal enemies in just under a year.
He’s getting hammered here in Texas.Texas Lt Gov Dan Patrick this morning tweeted from Galatians “Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.” He later deleted it and replaced it with a quote from Psalms, claiming it was scheduled days ago.
Patrick’s own pastor has condemned the original tweet, saying that such speech gives permission to hate LGTBQ people.
It shouldn’t help him too much. He’s being attack by both the left and right for his tweets were he congratulated himself.This will help Trump. I don’t know how much, but it will help.
*****************************************************************************:frighten:Chicago is just a bad place, that is the exception.
You were wrong on 3 and 4. Obama never spoke about that.I am sure Obama will soon tell us the lessons to be learned from this tragedy:
- We need stricter gun control
- We need to heighten awareness about bullying gays and the rampant homophobia in this country
- We need to increase Muslim immigration so lonely Muslims like this lone gunman don’t feel so lonely
- We need to close Gitmo so as not to continually stoke the righteous anger of the Muslims we so greviously offend
Not to say what happens there is right, but I’m pretty sure Chicago PD Illinois police know we’re the trouble is. Go to those areas and start taking up the guns of the gang members/ law breaking people.*****************************************************************************:frighten:
As to the question of who this will help in the Presidential race; I think it all comes down to what becomes the dominant narrative. If the dominant narrative is “Islamist terrorist attack backed by ISIS”, then yes, it should benefit Trump; not in the sense of more people liking him, but merely in the sense of more people willing to vote for him as the candidate that’s “tough on terror”, even if they hold their noses while doing so.It shouldn’t help him too much. He’s being attack by both the left and right for his tweets were he congratulated himself.
His supporters will be riled up plus those who oppose as well. Basically evens out.
Push comes to shove, the left will always stick with Muslims even over the gays.Let me beat Obama/Hillary Clinton to it: gun violence. Simple as that. Hate crime. Bummer the guy wasn’t KKK, no denying that.
What a pickle for our hyper-tolerant buddies on the left, huh? Who to support, who to condemn.
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There are indications that the shooter had ISIS military training. He had established links to the organization. He had been under FBI investigation, but was not being monitored. I agree he may have carried out the attacks independently, but he was connected to ISIS unlike “US citizens who carry out mass shootings at US high schools.” As far as I am concerned if someone is connected with ISIS, they have a deranged mind. I see this as more similar to the attacks in Brussels, Paris, the Boston Marathon Bomber. Not the “US mass shooters.”However, that does not mean he had any dealings with ISIS.
ISIS was him a ‘raison d’etre’ to carry out his act of murderous violence. The man was, most probably, mentally unstable similar to the US citizens who carried out mass shootings at US high schools - for whatever their ‘raison d’etre’ happened to be.
Being Muslim, to say he did it for ISIS, gave his insane act a sense of importance, valor or whatever else, in his deranged mind, no doubt, nothing more.
It would be surprising to discover that he is actually a member of ISIS and was ‘commissioned’ to carry out the heinous act, under orders. Sounds like a deranged man that used a terrorist group, he admired, to make his act feel like it was heroic and ‘worthwhile’ - in his mind, anyways.
May they all RIP.
I don’t know what the left has to win with IslamPush comes to shove, the left will always stick with Muslims even over the gays.
Gays themselves will find somehow turn it towards the homophobia of Christians, and not hold Islam to account in any way, shape or form.
It wlll take a lot more than a shooting in a gay nightclub and twenty dead for the left to change their agenda.
When I saw he was appreciative of the congratulations, my first thought was what kind of man actually pats himself on the back so soon in the aftermath of such a horrific event? Then I remembered the ad depicting his mocking of the disabled and a young disabled girl’s father saying that incident gave him a glimpse into the man’s soul. And he didn’t like what he saw.It shouldn’t help him too much. He’s being attack by both the left and right for his tweets were he congratulated himself.
His supporters will be riled up plus those who oppose as well. Basically evens out.
He was licensed to carry a handgun, but was he also licensed to carry an assault weapon?He wasn’t just a citizen with access to guns. He was a licensed security guard who was licensed to carry a gun. There is no indication he was in any way mentally ill.
“This is clearly an act of terror,” FL Gov Scott says of Orlando mass shooting: cbsn.ws/21vPMY2
More of the “everybody does it” defenseBecause all the abortion bombings weren’t done by militant Christians? Did Dylan Roof not commit white terrorism against the people of Charleston? What about the IRA? Was that Catholic terrorism?
Rather that pointing the finger at Islam, maybe we should look to the cruelty of people in general. He might have killed in the name of Islam, but other have killed in the name of Christ, the Church, their race, etc. Fundamentalist Islam is a threat because its fundimentalist, not because its Islamic.
We’ll find out more in the days ahead, but I tend to agree with your assessment.However, that does not mean he had any dealings with ISIS.
ISIS was him a ‘raison d’etre’ to carry out his act of murderous violence. The man was, most probably, mentally unstable similar to the US citizens who carried out mass shootings at US high schools - for whatever their ‘raison d’etre’ happened to be.
Being Muslim, to say he did it for ISIS, gave his insane act a sense of importance, valor or whatever else, in his deranged mind, no doubt, nothing more.
It would be surprising to discover that he is actually a member of ISIS and was ‘commissioned’ to carry out the heinous act, under orders. Sounds like a deranged man that used a terrorist group, he admired, to make his act feel like it was heroic and ‘worthwhile’ - in his mind, anyways.
May they all RIP.