Police: Approximately 20 dead inside Florida nightclub after mass shooting

[Thorolfr]

Sig Sauer MCX, they will call it a assault rifle and act like its fully automatic anyway. The usual lies.

One thing that isn’t a lie is that the rate of gun deaths in the US far surpasses all of our allies. Here are some statistics for the firearm death rate per 100,000 by country for 2010:

Japan 0.0
United Kingdom 0.2
Netherlands 0.5
Spain 0.6
Australia 1.0
Germany 1.1
Norway 1.8
Canada 2.3
France 2.8
Finland 3.6
United States 10.2

cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

 

[Tomdstone]

One thing that isn’t a lie is that the rate of gun deaths in the US far surpasses all of our allies. Here are some statistics for the firearm death rate per 100,000 by country for 2010:

Japan 0.0
United Kingdom 0.2
Netherlands 0.5
Spain 0.6
Australia 1.0
Germany 1.1
Norway 1.8
Canada 2.3
France 2.8
Finland 3.6
United States 10.2

cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

Also worth noting are the number of guns per capita in each country:
Japan has 6 guns per 100 residents.
USA has 113 guns per 100 residents
It doesn’t look to me like more guns means fewer gun deaths.

 

[Seamus_L]

Once you get away from the crime ridden inner city areas throughout America, the country is actually very peaceful. I live in a suburb of Chicago and know quite a few people who have firearms, and I can’t recall the last time we had a shooting in my town.

 

[Thorolfr]

Once you get away from the crime ridden inner city areas throughout America, the country is actually very peaceful. I live in a suburb of Chicago and know quite a few people who have firearms, and I can’t recall the last time we had a shooting in my town.

So do you think that the US has such a high rate of gun deaths compared to other rich countries because we have a lot more “crime ridden inner city areas” than what they do? If so, why is that? The statistics don’t seem to show that all our guns are making us safer. Considering how many guns we have per 100 people, you’d think that we’d be the safest country on earth and have the fewest gun deaths if all those guns made us safer.

 

[Peebo]

Once you get away from the crime ridden inner city areas throughout America, the country is actually very peaceful. I live in a suburb of Chicago and know quite a few people who have firearms, and I can’t recall the last time we had a shooting in my town.

We live in a small town outside Tallahassee…Tallahassee is not a large city by any means…there is hardly a day go by that gun violence there or in the surrounding local TV viewing area is not part of the morning news

 

[estesbob]

This guy fits into the John Gacy and Jeffrey Dolmer mold of homosexual killer.
The only difference is that he was able to find a religionand a poltiical systeem that actually is able to justify his perversity.

Actually itvFits into the radical Islam is jihadist mode . Since he was texting people and calling radio stations and proclaiming loudly and proudly he was doing this in the name of Islam the idea that this was some kind of massacre driven by homophobia is utter nonsense

 

[meltzerboy]

Actually itvFits into the radical Islam is jihadist mode . Since he was texting people and calling radio stations and proclaiming loudly and proudly he was doing this in the name of Islam the idea that this was some kind of massacre driven by homophobia is utter nonsense

A person with inner sexual conflicts is hardly going to advertise that he committed a crime such as this because he is a self-loathing homosexual. Nonetheless, I agree with you that his political and religious fanaticism was no doubt a driving force in the massacre.

 

[zamyrabyrd]

This guy fits into the John Gacy and Jeffrey Dolmer mold of homosexual killer. The only difference is that he was able to find a religion and a political system that actually is able to justify his perversity.

Not only justify but exonerate and purge himself of the sin by a self-immolation. Dying in the act of jihad while killing kaffirs is supposed to redeem him.

 

[Darryl1958]

Not only justify but exonerate and purge himself of the sin by a self-immolation. Dying in the act of jihad while killing kaffirs is supposed to redeem him.

Islam has always been very accommodating of the full breadth and range
of masculine sexual experience. As long as you say the pledge of allegiance, soldiers can do what they want. Kaffirs mean nothing whatsoever to them

Psychopathic hedonistic predators have always been common in the gay community as well. It is a new twist added in Orlando, to be sure, but all within the range of what Islamists include, and what is included in the homosexual experience.

 

[Darryl1958]

Actually itvFits into the radical Islam is jihadist mode . Since he was texting people and calling radio stations and proclaiming loudly and proudly he was doing this in the name of Islam the idea that this was some kind of massacre driven by homophobia is utter nonsense

People need to find a way to blame it on Christianity. Homophobia is seen as the result of repressive Christian morality being internalized by the homosexual who cannot accept his own urges.

 

[estesbob]

A person with inner sexual conflicts is hardly going to advertise that he committed a crime such as this because he is a self-loathing homosexual. Nonetheless, I agree with you that his political and religious fanaticism was no doubt a driving force in the massacre.

There is not a scintilla of evidence that he had iner sexual conflicts or that homosexuality had anything whatsoever to do with this act of terror . Instead of concentrating on the fact that United States was once again attacked by Islamic terrorism instead we see much handwringing over homophobia and guns from the left. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

One thing that isn’t a lie is that the rate of gun deaths in the US far surpasses all of our allies. Here are some statistics for the firearm death rate per 100,000 by country for 2010:

Japan 0.0
United Kingdom 0.2
Netherlands 0.5
Spain 0.6
Australia 1.0
Germany 1.1
Norway 1.8
Canada 2.3
France 2.8
Finland 3.6
United States 10.2

cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

Once you adjust for black-on-black crime and drug gang crime, then the U.S. gun deaths drop down to European rates.

I was looking at some of the data and places like Mexico and Honduras and some of our South American neighbors have pretty substantial gun deaths.

 

[Crossbones]

A person with inner sexual conflicts is hardly going to advertise that he committed a crime such as this because he is a self-loathing homosexual. Nonetheless, I agree with you that his political and religious fanaticism was no doubt a driving force in the massacre.

You know, I was thinking about this and the father’s comments are telling. Mateen was probably gay. He went to gay nightclubs, there have been reports of him hitting on men and his ex-wife says he was gay. Yet his father claimed he was upset at seeing two gay men kissing in front of him and his son.

So, this gay man (who was clearly trying to live a heterosexual lifestyle) was mad about gay people being gay in front of him. Sure, he had issues, but even this seems like a stretch. I think the story is probably a lie. His father knew he was gay, but wanted to cover it up as much as his son did and made up the story because he’d rather his son be a homophobic murderer than gay.

 

[zamyrabyrd]

You know, I was thinking about this and the father’s comments are telling. Mateen was probably gay. He went to gay nightclubs, there have been reports of him hitting on men and his ex-wife says he was gay. Yet his father claimed he was upset at seeing two gay men kissing in front of him and his son.

So, this gay man (who was clearly trying to live a heterosexual lifestyle) was mad about gay people being gay in front of him. Sure, he had issues, but even this seems like a stretch. I think the story is probably a lie. His father knew he was gay, but wanted to cover it up as much as his son did and made up the story because he’d rather his son be a homophobic murderer than gay.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for the media to acknowledge this.

 

[Faith1960]

Once you get away from the crime ridden inner city areas throughout America, the country is actually very peaceful. I live in a suburb of Chicago and know quite a few people who have firearms, and I can’t recall the last time we had a shooting in my town.

I agree, same here. I live in a suburb of St. Louis.

 

[Thorolfr]

I agree, same here. I live in a suburb of St. Louis.

No one’s answered my question as to why our country has so many crime ridden inner city areas that according to some people in this forum are responsible for our country’s sky high rate of gun deaths compared to other rich countries. Do you imagine that France or England or Spain or Germany have no crime ridden inner city areas and this explains why they have a much lower rate of gun deaths and that our own high rate has nothing to do with all the guns we have?

 

[Darryl1958]

No one’s answered my question as to why our country has so many crime ridden inner city areas that according to some people in this forum are responsible for our country’s sky high rate of gun deaths compared to other rich countries. Do you imagine that France or England or Spain or Germany have no crime ridden inner city areas and this explains why they have a much lower rate of gun deaths and that our own high rate has nothing to do with all the guns we have?

Ferguson effect.

 

[Peebo]

No one’s answered my question as to why our country has so many crime ridden inner city areas that according to some people in this forum are responsible for our country’s sky high rate of gun deaths compared to other rich countries. Do you imagine that France or England or Spain or Germany have no crime ridden inner city areas and this explains why they have a much lower rate of gun deaths and that our own high rate has nothing to do with all the guns we have?

What you need to do is ask the people in those European countries you mentioned…you would probably get a 100% response citing the gun control laws they have compared to anything goes in the US…you won’t get a straight answer here because all the gun lobby supporters can’t handle the truth…it’s the same with how they jumped on the band wagon blaming mental health…well guess what… those countries have mental health issues

 

[GaryTaylor]

One thing that isn’t a lie is that the rate of gun deaths in the US far surpasses all of our allies. Here are some statistics for the firearm death rate per 100,000 by country for 2010:

Japan 0.0
United Kingdom 0.2
Netherlands 0.5
Spain 0.6
Australia 1.0
Germany 1.1
Norway 1.8
Canada 2.3
France 2.8
Finland 3.6
United States 10.2

cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/

Sorry and being polite I reject the comparison outright for a few reasons. One is I can’t imagine why we in america would want to be like Germany, France etc. Second NONE have a mental health and penal system like americas monster on the loose. But that leads us not to gun rights by the assimilated but this…

No one’s answered my question as to why our country has so many crime ridden inner city areas that according to some people in this forum are responsible for our country’s sky high rate of gun deaths

Because of finance of the very large social services are centrally located do to being cost effective. So its not just a revolving door of offenders, but the poor and needy and most effected by bad choices forced to gravitate for help and Obamacare, food stamps etc. Thus crime and guns and criminals become interactive. Again the good mental health.

 

[ucfengr]

May I suggest that a moderator change the title to reflect the actual number of dead. It’s a little jarring to see 20 when the real number is 49.