Poll Finds Rift Between U.S. Catholics and Church

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What I find interesting is that the document from the USCCB in it’s document on Faithful Citizenship says this:
42. As Catholics we are not single-issue voters. A candidate’s position on a single issue is not sufficient to guarantee a voter’s support. Yet a candidate’s position on a single issue that involves an intrinsic evil, such as support for legal abortion or the promotion of racism, may legitimately lead a voter to disqualify a candidate from receiving support.

And yet I never hear “racism” discussed as a non-negotiable.
When do you ever hear any Catholic, liberal or conservative, expressly endorsing racism? And I don’t mean ‘endorsing a position someone could, with a good amount of mental gymnastics, say is racist’. You don’t hear any Catholics saying that approval of cannibalism is non-negotiable either, for similar reasons - it’s just not in dispute with much of anyone.
 
The poll does not differentiate between practicing Catholics from those that call themselves Catholic but do not pratice the faith or know much about the faith so the poll is not an accurate representation of the way practising Catholics feel about the Church

christiantoday.co.uk/article/regular.churchgoers.preferred.romney.poll.finds/31005.htm

A change in the question on practice changes the result
Kind of like doing a poll and counting me as a member of Pi Kappa Phi fraternity. Nevermind I haven’t been involved since I graduated from college in 97…

Having secualr institutions do polls and pieces on religions they are completely ignorant of is a waste of time, and is done solely to justify their own Church angst.
 
I second that. If the laity elected the pope, we’d have the same chaos and wishy-washy theology that the Protestants have. I like consistancy; not deciding every four years what our position about blank is going to be.

As another poster said; people keep baptizing their babies in Catholic Churches, and the media keeps talking about the Church. We’re relavent; and I laugh because so many people whine about the Church’s social doctrines, yet they crave the Church’s approval at the same time. Someone should write a paper about it…
We’d get Chris Christie as Pope.
 
Why mention no one talks about it if the point is it is not relevant to any particular election?
Perhaps in America, but Europe have lots of anti-semetic and racist groups that run for elections.😦
 
The Church is not a democracy. Catholics must abide by the Magisterium. If your opinion conflicts with Vatican teachings and you cannot to abide by the Church’s position, seek out a Protestant denomination.
I agree with your your first two statements.

Maybe the Magisterium (the teaching Church?) should attempt a better way to teach and instruct the CCC unless you see no point in seeking lost sheep.
 
But the document was from the American Bishops about American voting.
Well if it was included, then I imagine that the Bishops thought it was relevant.

I am still not sure what your questions was getting at.
 
I agree with your your first two statements.

Maybe the Magisterium (the teaching Church?) should attempt a better way to teach and instruct the CCC unless you see no point in seeking lost sheep.
You assume that the “lost sheep” don’t know what the Church teaches. I have found that often they do. They just think they know better.
 
I agree with your your first two statements.

Maybe the Magisterium (the teaching Church?) should attempt a better way to teach and instruct the CCC unless you see no point in seeking lost sheep.
Luke 15

Amen
 
From the article:

WOW!!!
My understanding of this shift is due to catholics feeling the need to be politically correct, especially because our confidence as a whole has been shaken as a result of the last couple of decades of sexual assualts and cover ups, but the catholic teaching on this subject is compassionate and sound and we should not fear explaining it. Let me first say It is not a sin to be gay! It is only a sin to act on it, because marriage is only considered valid between a man and a woman. It is a sin for heterosexual people to have premarital sex as well. The church teaches to treat homosexuals with gentleness, kindness and guidence, not disdain or anger. So there is no need to be fearfull of educating others on this.
 
Well if it was included, then I imagine that the Bishops thought it was relevant.

I am still not sure what your questions was getting at.
Probably the same thing I’m getting at: I’m confounded that anyone would discuss “support of racism” in the US as part of a political platform.

Simply put, it’s not a part of any party’s platform (and pretty absent from US politics), while support for legal abortion is part of party platforms.
 
No surprise there. The NYT doesn’t have any type of agenda.

BREAKING NEWS: The Catholic Church has heretics. Still.
 
Probably the same thing I’m getting at: I’m confounded that anyone would discuss “support of racism” in the US as part of a political platform.

Simply put, it’s not a part of any party’s platform (and pretty absent from US politics), while support for legal abortion is part of party platforms.
Which candidate presented that as an issue?
Candidates don’t champion explictly racist agendas but there are plenty of racial implications in political positions. You have to think past the jargon to see the deeper issues. Consider economic policies, job creation policies, housing policies, education etc. Would anyone doubt that there are racial implications for various political positions? I’ve heard pro-life leaders talk about how abortion clinics are often located in minority neighborhoods in disproportionate numbers. If that’s the case, and I don’t doubt them, what other issues affecting minorities might be involved? Perhaps poverty, employment, housing, education, etc. These are often racial issues even though they might not be spoken of as such.

Following the Bishops’ guidance might demand that we look through the hot-button language of political discourse to see the deeper realities.
 
Wow! I’m sure the Church really cares about the opinion of wealthy, self indulgent Americans & their thoughts about (im)morality.
 
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