Poll on contraception

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Brettbat said:
The Roman Catholic view of contraception is absolute lunacy.
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As long as you dont contracept, you can receive Communion in a worthy manner. If you are contracepting, you should NOT receive Communion.

It doesnt matter if you think its lunacy.
 
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Escabrosa said:
I agree with you in principle that it seems it would be OK to have sex with your spouse if using the pill for medical reasons without intending it’s use it for its contraceptive properties. However, I see a lot of room for abuse here. Kind of like medical marijuana use. If you’re using it for PMS or acne but like that it’s keeping you from getting pregnant, you might be crossing a line.
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That’s not for us to say in the least, though. That’s a judgment between that person and God.

If someone is validly married, and is taking an oral contraceptive pill or using a device like Mirena to treat severe acne or endometriosis, that has no effect on “intent” if that’s indeed why they’re using it.

Would you think the same thing if a person undergoes cancer treatment that renders them sterile? Or has a hysterectomy as part of cancer treatment? Or has to have their ovaries or a testicle removed because of disease (usually cancer)? (By the time you have one removed and undergo chemo, you’re pretty much sterile.) Those aren’t nasty questions and I’m not attempting to be mean.
 
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There are good practical reasons for it, like most Catholic views. A big one is the plummeting fertility rates, but I think more importantly is that using contraception leads to people treating each other with less dignity, both in and out of marriage. There’s a big difference between choosing a partner for casual sex and one for making babies with. People tend to love and respect one a bit more than the other.
 
Reason to me seems to dictate that the end of the sexual act is invalidated by the use of contraceptives.

Some may say it is possible it is not sin outside of marriage. But, it would seem to me to be the natural course of sin to lead to more sin.

I said not at all in the poll. However, I was considering contraceptives used as contraceptives. I am not against ie the pill being used purely and strictly as medicine.
 
Many are confused on the Church’s teaching of intrinsically evil acts. No circumstance or intention can justify an intrinsically evil act. Double effect doesn’t come into play with intrinsically evil acts. If we say that one can use contraception for medical purposes then we can say abortion is allowed to save the mother, which we know is false.
 
Hey, being Catholic is an all volunteer endeavor and ultimately it’s up to each of us to decide and be true to God and to ourselves. However, I think it is our place to step in with some gentle admonishing if we see a loved one crossing the line, or at least pose the question.
 
Arwing said:
Are birth control pills abortifacient? I’m not educated on that at all. But if they are, I’d honestly have a hard time seeing how double effect would permit having relations while using them, as the good effect doesn’t seem to be proportionate to the risk.
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They can be, in some circumstances. I’ve never heard anywhere close to 20%.
 
LittleFlower378 said:
Many are confused on the Church’s teaching of intrinsically evil acts. No circumstance or intention can justify an intrinsically evil act. Double effect doesn’t come into play with intrinsically evil acts. If we say that one can use contraception for medical purposes then we can say abortion is allowed to save the mother, which we know is false.
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Legitimate medical treatment that will inevitably end up killing a child in the womb is morally permissible according to Church teaching, so long as the treatment isn’t the killing of the child.
 
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Even if one says for medical purposes, the end of the act is still contraceptive and abortive(when two people engage in the marital act) It would also be non procreative which is essential to the marital act.
 
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The end of the act of the pill is contraceptive and abortive whether or not the person has good intentions.
 
The Catholic position is clear.

However, do we people really need to “be fruitful and multiply?” Maybe we need a more direct command for the modern day, like-- don’t fill the world with unwanted people.
 
No. The end is the legitimate medical treatment. The sterility is accidental to the end.

It is natural for a human being to have two arms, but if it’s better to restoring health and function to an injured person, amputation is permissible, even if “mutilation” is an accidental effect. Likewise, with medical treatment and sterility.
 
I used it for acne for a while, but I think this is only acceptable when the person is single and abstinent. If you have acne and are married, I don’t believe birth control is an acceptable treatment. I voted that it is acceptable in the most rare circumstances ( mainly skin conditions and other issues not related to conception and definitely not within the context of marriage and sexuality. In the context of marriage and sexuality it is NEVER acceptable).
 
I don’t like the phrase “unwanted people”, but I get it. But if you play the numbers game, only those playing the game will decrease, while others will fill in the gaps. Catholics need to multiply.
 
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I don’t really see how contraceptive pills and cancer treatment can be compared. The user’s life depends on the one, and the other one is not really a personal life or death situation. Plus, I don’t think the pill itself is evil. Like I said, I used it when I had acne for about a year and a half. I only stopped it because it really made me feel pretty awful. It was the miraculous cure to my skin condition, which not even Accutane could fix so I am actually pretty darn grateful for the stuff. However, using it for the sake of not having a child or in a position where it closes a couple off from giving life, it is not morally okay.
 
If we are speaking specifically of the contraceptive aspect, some examples would be:
  1. Committed couple who do not want anymore children, or who want to space them out.
  2. To prevent pregnancies that present serious health conditions.
 
I think it’s out of line to be suspicious of someone’s intentions. I think that crosses a line.
 
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