Polls finds stark Catholic racial divide on Trump v. Clinton

[meltzerboy]

Immigration reform, tax reform, taking the burden off small business owners, avoiding “nation building” military operations overseas that have been costly in American lives, foreign trade policies, job creation policies, etc. etc.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

 

[Sarcelle]

I am neither a Hillary supporter nor a Trump supporter.

Same here.

They are both equally bad.

 

[estesbob]

And what do Trump supporters talk about besides how horrible Clinton is?

That she was an absolute failure as SOS leaving the middle east in turmoil , Ambassadors dead, our friends mistrusting us and our enemies emboldened. In addition she supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and has promised to stack the USSC with liberals. The truth is the only real accomplishment she has had in life was marrying Bill Clinton.

 

[meltzerboy]

That she was an absolute failure as SOS leaving the middle east in turmoil , Ambassadors dead, our friends mistrusting us and our enemies emboldened. In addition she supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and has promised to stack the USSC with liberals. The truth is the only real accomplishment she has had in life was marrying Bill Clinton.

And not even that, given the circumstances?

 

[Ridgerunner]

That she was an absolute failure as SOS leaving the middle east in turmoil , Ambassadors dead, our friends mistrusting us and our enemies emboldened. In addition she supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and has promised to stack the USSC with liberals. The truth is the only real accomplishment she has had in life was marrying Bill Clinton.

Well, she has made a lot of money selling influence. That’s an accomplishment of a sort.

 

[Padres1969]

This seems be the new trend. Clinton supporters really never talk about what it is she’s going to do for the country but instead continually whine about how Trump is a bigot and a misogynist and by the way did you hear that five of this 514 businesses went bankrupt in the last 40 years?

Probably because polling shows the majority of Clinton supporters are not voting for Hillary Clinton. They’re voting against Donald Trump. Same goes for the majority of Trump supporters, they’re not voting for Trump, they’ve voting against Clinton.

 

[Ojo_Feliz]

There is an enormous cleavage between Catholics who attend church, and non-practicing Catholics. The former vote prolife, and latter tend to vote secularist/socialist.

Previous polling has shown a big difference in the social-political attitudes of cultural Catholics versus practicing Catholics. However, this current poll doesn’t seem to show this split when it comes to presidential preference.
Crux article:

Smith said the sample sizes for the Pew study were not large enough to distinguish among white and Hispanic Catholics in terms of how often members of each group attend Mass, but overall weekly Mass-goers are supporting Clinton 57 to 38 percent.

Those figures are roughly the same as for all Catholics, regardless of the frequency of Mass attendance.

 

[anon67074017]

I’m a hardcore Bernie supporter.

Go to church every week. During the summer (I’m a teacher) I go to noon Mass sometimes. I’m on the parish council. I pray frequently. My faith is of utmost importance to me.

I don’t say that to brag, but because I know someone is going to question whether I’m a “practicing Catholic.”

I am.

I am a Bernie guy. I will be reluctantly voting for Hillary.

Do you follow the message of Our Lady of Fatima?

 

[jediliz]

I’m a hardcore Bernie supporter.

Go to church every week. During the summer (I’m a teacher) I go to noon Mass sometimes. I’m on the parish council. I pray frequently. My faith is of utmost importance to me.

I don’t say that to brag, but because I know someone is going to question whether I’m a “practicing Catholic.”

I am.

I am a Bernie guy. I will be reluctantly voting for Hillary.

Please rethink this…she IS extremely PRO ABORTION. She also has said that religious beliefs must change on abortion. She also lied to America and put our national security at risk.

Catholics can NOT vote for pro abortion candidates and she is extremist when it comes to abortion.

Supreme court justice nominations are at risk.

 

[Padres1969]

Please rethink this…she IS extremely PRO ABORTION. She also has said that religious beliefs must change on abortion. She also lied to America and put our national security at risk.

Catholics can NOT vote for pro abortion candidates and she is extremist when it comes to abortion.

Supreme court justice nominations are at risk.

And yet the majority of American Catholics seem poised to do exactly that 56% Clinton to 39% Trump.

 

[Deep_Roots]

And yet the majority of American Catholics seem poised to do exactly that 56% Clinton to 39% Trump.

Yeah, and I’m part of that 56%. I vote holistically. Not just on one issue.

I regret that this is the choice. Alas.

 

[jediliz]

Yeah, and I’m part of that 56%. I vote holistically. Not just on one issue.

I regret that this is the choice. Alas.

Life is not one issue --it is THEE ISSUE. The next president will appoint supreme court justices — do you understand that??? Clinton will likely appoint liberals that are as extreme as her — anti second amendment rights, pro abortion.

If you think democrats care about the poor, you are mistaken…who is poorer and most vulnerable in our society? The unborn child, the disabled and the elderly. Who knows what the next supreme court roe vs wade type ruling will be - it might be legalizing assisted suicide!!! If we don’t value life in the womb, we don’t value ANY life.

I am guessing you are fine with not securing our borders.

 

[Strydersroom]

Life is not one issue --it is THEE ISSUE. The next president will appoint supreme court justices — do you understand that??? Clinton will likely appoint liberals that are as extreme as her — anti second amendment rights, pro abortion.

If you think democrats care about the poor, you are mistaken…who is poorer and most vulnerable in our society? The unborn child, the disabled and the elderly. Who knows what the next supreme court roe vs wade type ruling will be - it might be legalizing assisted suicide!!! If we don’t value life in the womb, we don’t value ANY life.

I am guessing you are fine with not securing our borders.

Count me in on the Hillary Camp.

 

[Deep_Roots]

Life is not one issue --it is THEE ISSUE…]anti second amendment rights …] you are fine with not securing our borders.

Interesting set of pro-life issues you’ve got there. Also, aren’t you getting a little testy?

 

[jediliz]

Interesting set of pro-life issues you’ve got there. Also, aren’t you getting a little testy?

Perhaps I understand the importance of an election when those who care about the most vulnerable in society could lose some of the ground they’ve won in the protection of the unborn. The recent decision to override common sense safety like sterilizing instruments, wide hallways, and having admitting privileges is just the beginning.

Maybe it’s also because I have a little niece I don’t want to have to continue this fight to protect a child in the womb, when she is my age.

If you think of every unborn child as JESUS CHRIST, you would never vote in a president who wants to FORCE TAX PAYERS to pay for ABORTION.

Hilary is dangerous to this country and our national security.

 

[Deep_Roots]

Perhaps I understand the importance of an election when those who care about the most vulnerable in society could lose some of the ground they’ve won in the protection of the unborn. The recent decision to override common sense safety like sterilizing instruments, wide hallways, and having admitting privileges is just the beginning.

Maybe it’s also because I have a little niece I don’t want to have to continue this fight to protect a child in the womb, when she is my age.

If you think of every unborn child as JESUS CHRIST, you would never vote in a president who wants to FORCE TAX PAYERS to pay for ABORTION.

Hilary is dangerous to this country and our national security.

I understand the abortion issue very well. I think you missed my point though. You let your inner party-line republican show, by adding gun rights and immigration to the list.

But that’s your prerogative. I’m not telling you who to vote for. I respect your conscience. But I work in the trenches and must also prioritize the things that will enable me to better the lives of the very impoverished children and teens with whom I work.

I understand that, for you, this is cut and dried. I wish I could go back to seeing the world that way. Unfortunately I can’t. It’s not a zero sum game, my friend. Not for me anyway.

Peace.

 

[jediliz]

I understand the abortion issue very well. I think you missed my point though. You let your inner party-line republican show, by adding gun rights and immigration to the list.

But that’s your prerogative. I’m not telling you who to vote for. I respect your conscience. But I work in the trenches and must also prioritize the things that will enable me to better the lives of the very impoverished children and teens with whom I work.

I understand that, for you, this is cut and dried. I wish I could go back to seeing the world that way. Unfortunately I can’t. It’s not a zero sum game, my friend. Not for me anyway.

Peace.

lifenews.com/2016/07/06/hillary-clinton-is-sure-abortion-is-a-constitutional-right-but-cant-say-if-the-second-amendment-is/

 

[TexCatholic4JMJ]

Perhaps I understand the importance of an election when those who care about the most vulnerable in society could lose some of the ground they’ve won in the protection of the unborn. The recent decision to override common sense safety like sterilizing instruments, wide hallways, and having admitting privileges is just the beginning.

Maybe it’s also because I have a little niece I don’t want to have to continue this fight to protect a child in the womb, when she is my age.

If you think of every unborn child as JESUS CHRIST, you would never vote in a president who wants to FORCE TAX PAYERS to pay for ABORTION.

Hilary is dangerous to this country and our national security.

Way to go. Completely agree. In my mind those who consider pro-life “one issue” have
been conned. Among those missing today because they were aborted are the ones who
would have had vocations to religious life, to working with the poor and the elderly; who
would be contributing to our society in countless other ways.
So to consider it one issue is very short-sided.

 

[Karen107]

I tell you I can’t vote for Trump or Clinton because of my prolife position.

We already know Clintons position on abortion and Trump well he’s the pits. He’s a liar and divider and an atheist to boot! Not that all atheists are alike, but when it comes to Christian values driving him, that’s simply not true. He’s in it to win it…$$$ Which is not at the heart of true Christianity. Oh we’re not supposed to worship false gods and I see so many of his followers do that. They follow him like an idol even though he says some horrible things about people. And we are not supposed to put ourselves before others which is exactly what he’ll do as he has historically done.

This is difficult times with one difficult election coming up.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Yes an executive who bankrupted his companies 4 different times. Some executive.

Apple was 90 days away from bankruptcy
Bill gates filed
Warren buffet as well.
There are it a lot of elite exects who have not had a brush with the b word. The more businesses one runs the more that option is employed.
Is there a better political candidate in business matters? I’d love to be informed.