Polls finds stark Catholic racial divide on Trump v. Clinton

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Hoosier_Daddy said:
Apple was 90 days away from bankruptcy
Bill gates filed
Warren buffet as well.
There are it a lot of elite exects who have not had a brush with the b word. The more businesses one runs the more that option is employed.
Is there a better political candidate in business matters? I’d love to be informed.
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In it to win it… sorry but money isn’t everything. There is more to ’ life’ than business at hand. Gods way will bring it’s rewards.
 
Deep_Roots said:
Yeah, and I’m part of that 56%. I vote holistically. Not just on one issue.

I regret that this is the choice. Alas.
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Is it safe to assume you voted for (or would have) Romney then, but view Trump as unpalatable this time given a holistic view?
 
Karen107 said:
I tell you I can’t vote for Trump or Clinton because of my prolife position. 🤷

We already know Clintons position on abortion and Trump well he’s the pits. He’s a liar and divider and an atheist to boot! Not that all atheists are alike, but when it comes to Christian values driving him, that’s simply not true. He’s in it to win it…$$$ Which is not at the heart of true Christianity. Oh we’re not supposed to worship false gods and I see so many of his followers do that. They follow him like an idol even though he says some horrible things about people.

This is difficult times with one difficult election coming up.
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So if he were buhddist you would be ok? Or only Christians get you vote?

I don’t care if he believes in a purple headed spaghetti monster I believe he is the more pro life choice. He has stated he experienced a change in views because of a grandchild. A polititian who says I used to believe something wrong but now I don’t is more believable to me than many who have always been “pro life”

He released his judge list. That’s good enough for me.
 
Karen107 said:
In it to win it… sorry but money isn’t everything. There is more to ’ life’ than business at hand. Gods way will bring it’s rewards.
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Yes now in our lifetimes find me a candidate you describe. One of those two will be president. Abstain all you want but the mantra of taking your ball and going home is getting old.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
So if he were buhddist you would be ok? Or only Christians get you vote?

I don’t care if he believes in a purple headed spaghetti monster I believe he is the more pro life choice. He has stated he experienced a change in views because of a grandchild. A polititian who says I used to believe something wrong but now I don’t is more believable to me than many who have always been “pro life”

He released his judge list. That’s good enough for me.
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Building a huge wall greater than the great wall of China between Mexico and the United states and having Mexico pay for it sure doesn’t sound like welcoming to life at all. Neither is all the Casinos he’s built. The guys a creep who’s in it to win it which is why he only recently’ decided’ he was pro life. Heck, how many wives does it take to determine what he thinks are family values.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
Yes now in our lifetimes find me a candidate you describe. One of those two will be president. Abstain all you want but the mantra of taking your ball and going home is getting old.
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So it isn’t about God and what God believes is morally right then. It’s about politics… Of course… The lesser of two evils, in your opinion…🤷
 
Karen107 said:
Building a huge wall greater than the great wall of China between Mexico and the United states and having Mexico pay for it sure doesn’t sound like welcoming to life at all. Neither is all the Casinos he’s built. The guys a creep who’s in it to win it which is why he only recently’ decided’ he was pro life. Heck, how many wives does it take to determine what he thinks are family values.
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Securing borders is not a life issue but a fundamental right of every nation or government since the beginning of time. Including the Vatican, Jerusalem and the Holy Roman Empire.

As for casinos, Catholics have been involved in that since lot were cast for garments.

We are not puritans. We are a country on the brink, we need conversion, but since that won’t happen between now and nov…
 
Deep_Roots said:
No, not at all.

I voted Obama.
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Actually I feel that election was very much like this one. Mitt Romney being more prolife yet a cutthroat cad like Trump when it comes to business and Obama being pro-abortion like Clinton.
 
Karen107 said:
So it isn’t about God and what God believes is morally right then. It’s about politics… Of course… The lesser of two evils, in your opinion…🤷
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There has never been a “holy” candidate. Never will be. If you are waiting for that, you can hope for a reincarnation of that adulterer King David…
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
Securing borders is not a life issue but a fundamental right of every nation or government since the beginning of time. Including the Vatican, Jerusalem and the Holy Roman Empire.
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You must not be a refugee looking for a better life. Which the Vatican is always coming to aid to, not building up walls against. Uniting is from God, dividing is from the devil. And Mr Trump sure likes to divide people.
 
Karen107 said:
Actually I feel that election was very much like this one. Mitt Romney being more prolife yet a cutthroat cad like Trump when it comes to business and Obama being pro-abortion like Clinton.
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Well, that AND I agreed with Obama on a ton of stuff, with several notable exceptions. I actually like Obama a lot.

Though I fault him on several key policies and practices.
 
Karen107 said:
You must not be a refugee looking for a better life. Which the Vatican is always coming to aid to, not building up walls against.
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Can I go live in any country I wish any time I wish any way I want?

This is emotional driven untruth about the issue.

Please, name a holy choice that we could have? Or have had…
 
Karen107 said:
You must not be a refugee looking for a better life. Which the Vatican is always coming to aid to, not building up walls against. Uniting is from God, dividing is from the devil. And Mr Trump sure likes to divide people.
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Karen107 said:
Catholics did that eh?
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Well they sure could have been. Lot casting did not end with the crucifixion and st Longinus may have indeed been involved at the cross…

Gambling is not condemned by the church.

But I suppose trumps dry lifestyle when it comes to alcholohol does not appeal to you.

What is the moral difference between two pair and owning Microsoft stock?
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
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We are not puritans. We are a country on the brink, we need conversion, but since that won’t happen between now and nov…
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Let me borrow this quote from your page…

— Better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a lie--------- Russian Proverb
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
So if he were buhddist you would be ok? Or only Christians get you vote?

I don’t care if he believes in a purple headed spaghetti monster I believe he is the more pro life choice. He has stated he experienced a change in views because of a grandchild. A polititian who says I used to believe something wrong but now I don’t is more believable to me than many who have always been “pro life”

He released his judge list. That’s good enough for me.
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Actually Obama changed his mind on a lot of things after the election. It happens just as you say. I don’t trust Trump for a second. Historically he’s got a ruthless history of being a businessman, he’s got the makings of a Hitler and I’m not falling for it…
 
Karen107 said:
Let me borrow this quote from your page…

— Better to be slapped with the Truth than kissed with a lie--------- Russian Proverb
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I get your problems with trump. But what is your solution? Who is “better” who is the holy candidate you want?
 
Maximilan_Kolbe said:
I suspected, just checking. So the issue isn’t Trump for you, but the party’s platforms? Which means the candidate doesn’t really matter, correct?
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Umm. For the most part, yes, but Trump is a particularly off-putting candidate. I didn’t dislike Romney all that much. Just disagreed with him more.
 
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