Poor Bill Bennett

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It is outragous to have a fellow foot soldier (Catholic) under fire for a very blatant misrepresentation of his actual words!

Please include him in your prayers. He is a sound man that does not have the character that could include the vile lies that are being perpetuated against him.

I believe that the *left *is trying to create the “culture of corruption” and including him (and all good Catholics) as part of the attempted takedown of the party in power at this time (if not the country itself).

Take up arms (your rosaries) and be prepared to fight!

God bless us all
 
His remarks were foolish and inappropriate and he should apologize for them. You don’t advocate murder, no matter what kind of political point you are trying to make.
 
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gilliam:
His remarks were foolish and inappropriate and he should apologize for them. You don’t advocate murder, no matter what kind of political point you are trying to make.
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He didn’t advocate murder. He gave an example to show the poor logic of a caller’s position.

Bill did an interview on Hannitty and Colmes it is here:
bennettmornings.com/

Rush Limbaugh made the very good point that those outraged by Bennett’s comments don’t have any problem with killing babies of any race.

rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_093005/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html

RUSH: He’s just saying let’s not get sidetracked on debating abortion on whether it will do this for the economy or that for the crime rate or whatever. That’s silly. It’s a matter of morality and life. Folks, what he said should have been applauded. What he said should reverberate. We just had a story. I mentioned it yesterday. An abortion doctor in Little Rock is urging evacuees from Hurricane Katrina to come get their abortions now. He will do it free. Who are the evacuees from Hurricane Katrina? Well, according to the media and the pictures we’ve seen, they’re all poor blacks. So we’ve got an abortion doctor in Little Rock advocating, asking, promoting, suggesting, inviting, Katrina evacuees to come have their abortions now free, be easier than to wait for the third trimester. I told you about this story yesterday and I said, “You know what? There’s a word to describe this. It’s called racism.” It’s racism. This guy, this abortion doctor in Arkansas is the man who actually said what the left wants you to think Bill Bennett said. This abortion doctor is actually doing it. This guy put out a call: You black ladies! You black women who are pregnant who evacuated Katrina, come to my office in Arkansas and I will abort your baby. That, my friends, is racism.

That is somebody actually doing what these guys are claiming Bill Bennett advocated. Now, what’s going to happen – and I did this on purpose because I want you to all watch for this. What I just said, “Bill Bennett should be applauded,” that will be the quote from me on this site sometime later today or tomorrow or next week, and they will come after me – and I did this on purpose, to illustrate how this happens. You have heard everything I’ve said. There will be a full transcript of what I’ve just said on my website. They will not read my website. They will not listen to this program. They’ll take whatever this little website that Soros funds, however they take what I just said out of context, put it on this website and the next thing you know, CNN is going to be interviewing Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the rest of these guys are going to be demanding that I be canned, fired, whatever. Even though I can’t be, they’re going to demand it somehow – and you watch. I said, “Bill Bennett should be applauded.” Yep, he should be applauded for the whole context of his remarks. He is trying to tell people here that abortion is a moral thing and all these tricks that we’re going to come up with to try to beat the abortion battle on economics and numbers and crime miss the point. Now, you’ve all heard me say this, but you also heard me sneak in there Bill Bennett should be applauded. Let’s see how this gets (interruption). You think I’m right about this, Mr. Snerdley? Snerdley says he knows I’m right.
 
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gilliam:
His remarks were foolish and inappropriate and he should apologize for them. You don’t advocate murder, no matter what kind of political point you are trying to make.
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Gilliam,

Please read up on his complete comments. He was clumsy, but he was not advocating abortion.

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170840,00.html
The conservative author, columnist and talk-radio host touched off a firestorm on Wednesday when a caller to his “Morning in America” show postulated that if abortion were illegal, Social Security would remain solvent.
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Bennett raised questions about the caller’s premise, saying that according to that logic, the argument in the book Freakonomics — that allowing abortion reduces crime — would be equally valid.
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Referring to the book’s hypothesis, Bennett told the caller, “I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.”
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Bennett continued: “That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do. But your crime rate would go down.”
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He should have said “according to that argument” instead of “I do know that’s true”. This would have been clearer.

God Bless,

Robert
 
I hope B.Bennett does not apologize but continues to argue and explain the point he was making. And continue to replay all of his words from that conversation. And those who support, with Fed $, every conceivable type of abortion are outraged?! This whole thing is a vicious smear on a man who has been on the front line of the pro life argument and the causes that help the poor black American; school choice, enterprise zones, high academic standards for all American children, drug free public schools, etc.
 
Bennett continued: “That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do. But your crime rate would go down.”

Seems to qualify it for me.
 
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gilliam:
Bennett continued: “That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do. But your crime rate would go down.”

Seems to qualify it for me.
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Gilliam:

Before we go any further, ask yourself, if, given the debate tactics of the Pro-Aborts, the distortions from the media, the changes in venues and all the rest, if you or I could have done any better.

Bennett was on a radio show arguing AGAINST abortions when a caller claimed that a study showed that crime was down because Abortions were up.

How would you answer that?

He brought out an argument consistant with that and said that it would be “morally reprehensible”.

The argument he used was one used by Margaret Sanger with respect to Abortion, poverty and minorities.

She had claimed that the gradual elimination of the poor and underclass {mainly minorities and immigrants) could be achieved through sterilization and abortion would eliminate poverty.

Her idea was and is absolutely reprehensible. NO Doubt about it.

Now, someone interested in distorting what I had to say could use a part of the above to make it look like I was calling for the exact opposite of the very thngs I stand for and have posted on.

I think that’s what happened to Bob Bennett over the past few days.

I think we have more than enough “Catholics for a Free Choice” and real racists to go after this man over a distorted misstatement.

In Christ, Michael
 
I personally feel that if Sharpton or Jackson made a very similar statement regarding lower income white children, WE would not be debating this issue.
 
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CinciMom:
I personally feel that if Sharpton or Jackson made a very similar statement regarding lower income white children, WE would not be debating this issue.
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Last week, Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) said “George Bush is our Bull Connor”, a reference to the Birmingham Police Commissioner who turned fire hoses and attack dogs on blacks as they marched for civil rights.

nysun.com/article/20495

While I admit that Bennetts remarks were clumsy and poorly worded to make his point, it was not intentionally racist as Rangel’s comments were. But since Rangel is black and a Democrat, the press gives him a free pass.
 
If abortion (be it black or white) was such a bad thing why do we do it after all … why is there any outrage? because it is wrong to begin with.
 
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gilliam:
His remarks were foolish and inappropriate and he should apologize for them. You don’t advocate murder, no matter what kind of political point you are trying to make.
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This is what he meant:

Responding later to criticism, Bennett said his comments had been mischaracterized and that his point was that the idea of supporting abortion to reduce crime was "morally reprehensible
 
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CinciMom:
I personally feel that if Sharpton or Jackson made a very similar statement regarding lower income white children, WE would not be debating this issue.
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The difference is that it would be hard to imagine them saying the practice would be morally reprehensible.
 
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gilliam:
His remarks were foolish and inappropriate and he should apologize for them. You don’t advocate murder, no matter what kind of political point you are trying to make.
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He didn’t advocate murder and the context of his remarks are ignored in the MSM.
 
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“RELATIONSHIP OF CRIME RATE AND UNEMPLOYMENT RATE”

Bill Bennet’s remark is an indication of how MISGUIDED Republicans and the Bush Administraion and the Federal Reserves are.
In the recent past, THE EMPLOYMENT RATE WAS ALLOWED TO REACH 96.1%. GDP GREW AT 4.6% INSTEAD OF THE USUAL MEAGER 2%-3% A YEAR. A CALLER ON CSPAN TODAY, SAID THAT THIS GDP WAS LATER CORRECTED TO 5.POINT SOMETHING PERCENT!!!

AND GUESS WHAT??? CRIME RATE WAS WAY WAY DOWN WHEN EMPLOMENT RATE WAS 96.1% !!! THE DETECTIVES NO LONGER HAD JOBS AND HAD PLENTY OF SPARE TIME WITH NOTHING TO DO!!! YES!!! YOU CAN CHECK THE NEWSPAPERS AT THAT TIME!!! DETECTIVES HAD NO MORE JOBS!!!
During the Clinton Administration, Eurasian talked to Congressman Jackson and Bryan Lamb in that CSPAN Program where Rev. Jackson was also present seconds earlier. Eurasian argued and said thal ALL THESE GNP THAT THE US PRODUCES A YEAR IS ONLY THE WORK OF NO MORE THAN 95% OF THE WORKER POPULATION.

Eurasian said, THE REMAINING 5% AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE TOTEMPOLE (about 7,000,000 workers) WHICH THE FEDERAL RESERVES CONDEMNS TO PERPETUAL UNEMPLOYMENT CAN PRODUCE AN ADDITONAL 5/95 OF THIS GDP OR GNP - IF ONLY THE FEDERAL RESERVES DOES NOT RAISE THE FED FUNDS RATE WHEN EMPLOYMENT REACHES 95%. BY RATIO AND PROPORTION, THE GDP OR GNP SHOULD GROW NOT JUST 2% -3% A YEAR BUT 7%-8% A YEAR IF EMPLOYMENT REACHES 100%.

If you review the facts, you will see that (national) employment did indeed reached 96.1%. And GDP GREW AT 4 POINT SOMETHING WHICH A CALLER SAID WAS ACTUALLY CORRECTED TO 5 POINT SOMETHING % . Now you tell me, "WHY WAS EMPLOYMENT ALLOWED TO REACH 96.1% IF THE CUTOFF BY THE FEDERAL RESERVES AS IS TAUGHT BY ALL ECONOMICS AND BANKING BOOKS OF THE 20TH CENTURY IS 95%???

My answer is this: “IT IS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL RESERVES, GREENSPAN WAS USING THE EXPERIMENTAL SUGGESTION OF THE EURASIAN!!!”

BILL BENNET, GREENSPAN!!! FOR CRIMES TO GO DOWN, GREENSPAN SHOULD ALLOW THE EMPLOYMENT RATE TO INCH AND INCH AND INCH CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER TO 100% EMPLOYMENT. Even if the employment rate is approaching or is beyond 95%, Greenspan should not just automatically raise the FED FUNDS RATE BY ALL THESE SERIES OF QUARTER POINT INCREASES. SO LONG AS HIGH INFLATION IS NOT A PROBLEM, ALLOW THE EMPLOYMENT RATE TO INCH AND INCH HIGHER AND HIGHER!!! Stop misusing and abusing the BELL CURVE, Mr. Greenspan!!! THAT IS AN EVIL THING YOU ARE DOING MR. GREENSPAN!!! YOU ARE CONDEMNING 7,000,000 AMERICAN WORKERS TO PERPETUAL UNEMPLOYMENT FROM BIRTH TO DEATH JUST BECAUSE OF THAT TAIL OF THE BELL CURVE WHICH SHOWS THAT 5% OF THE POPULATION UNDER THE CURVE SHOULD BE WRITTEN OFF AS FAILURES!!! CATHOLIC ANSWERS, CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, DON"T ALLOW GREENSPAN AND THE FEDERAL RESERVES TO DO THIS!!! 7,000,000 PERPETUALLY UNEMPLOYED WORKERS CAN DO A LOT OF CRIMES!!! IT IS A MIRACLE HOW THESE 7,000,000 AND THEIR DEPENDENTS ARE ABLE TO SURVIVE!!!

And QUEEN OF ENGLAND!!! STOP MEDDLING AND GIVING GREENSPAN A KNIGHTHOOD!!! YOU REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, QUEEN!!!
the-eurasian@earthlink.net
 
Hi Eurasian,

Could you simplify that a bit? I guess I’m a little slow, but I’m having trouble understanding what you’re trying to say.

Could you ease up on the caps, a bit? You’lll find a Caps Lock key to the left of your keyboard. You want the little Caps Lock light to go off. Try the shift key for proper use of the capital letters.

Thanx.
 
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Hi Eurasian,
Could you simplify that a bit? Thanx.
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Twentieth Century Economics books woldwide teach economists that for a healthy economy, 5% of worker population must have no jobs. It is a quota system!!!

If you are one of the lucky 95% employed, good for you!!! if you are one of the unlucky 5% unemployed, you will end up a parasite all your life and you will be tempted to be a thief, a prostirute, a stripper, a cabaret dancer, a concubine, a robber, a pickpocketer, a shoplifter, a scavenger, a beggar, just anything, like an animal in order to survive. Most likely you will be caught and end up expanding the prison industry, and the courts…

With a worker population of some 140 million workers, each percent is 1.4 million workers producing 1/95 of the US GDP or Gross Domestic Product.

So at 95% employment which is 5% unemployment, 7 million americans have no work. But if this 7 million workers were allowed to work, they can add an additional 5/95 of the GDP to the yearly GDP. This is the reason why, instead of just growing at 2% to 3% a year, GDP grew at over 5% during that one year of the GW Bush Administration. Why? Because Greenspan used eurasian experimental aired on CSPAN to Congressman Jackson and Bryan Lamb.

If not for eurasian experimental, Greenspan will be very much afraid to park the employment rate near 95%. Most likely, he will be parking the emploment rate near 90%, about 14 million people will have no work, and as a result the GDP will only be growing at 2%-3% a year. Why??? Because that is how slow the GDP was growing during the Clinton Administration when Greenspan was also the Federal Reserve Chairman, remember???

But because of eurasian experimental where it has been shown that the economic books and economists were wrong and that eurasian experimental was correct and that national employment can reach 96.1, national unemployment reduced to 3.9%, and the feared high inflation not materialize, today Greenspan is no longer afraid to park the employment rate much higher than 90% and very very very close to 95%. This is the reason why Greenspan has been raising the fed funds rate every few months by a quarter point.!!! That is his federal reserve way of firing hundreds of thousands of workers ----so that the employment rate which is very close to 95% ---- will not exceed 95%. But eurasian experimental says to Mr. Greenspan and the nation, "stop this evil process, Mr Greenspan. Forget about protecting your reputation as a result of that knighthood which you received from the Queen of England. So long as inflation is not a huge problem, allow more and more americans to end up employed!!! Allow the employment rate to inch and inch and inch and inch higher and higher toward 100%. We will have a much larger GDP AND GDP GROWTH!!! AND THE CRIME RATE WILL BE WAY WAY WAY DOWN!!!
the-eurasian@earthlink.net
 
OK. And that has to do with the general mis-understanding of Bill Bennett’s abortion remark by…?
 
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josiecoe:
It is outragous to have a fellow foot soldier (Catholic) under fire for a very blatant misrepresentation of his actual words!

Please include him in your prayers. He is a sound man that does not have the character that could include the vile lies that are being perpetuated against him.

I believe that the *left *is trying to create the “culture of corruption” and including him (and all good Catholics) as part of the attempted takedown of the party in power at this time (if not the country itself).

Take up arms (your rosaries) and be prepared to fight!

God bless us all
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Bill Bennett gets no defense from me but I will pray that he apologizes for his sloppy, questionable remarks. Personally, I think the fact that he openly challenged the Holy Father on Iraq is a sign of a swelled head. He needs to let some of the air out.
 
There is no need to posit a conspiracy here, and there is no need to argue that a healthy economy “needs” to keep 5% of the people unemployed and on the dole. A little thought will show that people who are on the dole are an economic drain, not an economic asset. If those on the dole all had jobs, they and the overall economy would be better off.

But it is true that “full employment” means that a small percentage of the people are without jobs. (The figure most often cited, it seems, is about 4%.) How can this be?

The unemployment figure includes not just people who are on the dole and yet are looking for jobs (a minority of them) but people who are between jobs, such as those who quit one job to take a break before getting another job and those (chiefly younger or first-time workers) who skip from one burger flipping job to another but with a gap between jobs. Also counted are people who deliberately take a temporary job and then go back to school or do something else. The way the numbers are tallied, some of them get counted, for a time, as unemployed.

If a society had 100% employment, that would imply that people are not transitioning from one job to another. It would imply a lack of mobility. This would not be a good thing, since workers should be able to move to better jobs as their skills improve, and not everyone can go from one job to another without a gap. (Many people can’t look for a new job while they have the old job. They need to quit the one and then start looking for the other.)
 
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