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I heard today Bernie Sanders was only 8 percentage points behind but that may be just in Iowa.
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ishii
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Yes, Hillary - the candidate for the working people. Vote for Hillary and there will be more minimum wage jobs.
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ishii
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That tells me that many Democrats would prefer an alternative to Hillary. It is not a given that she will win the general. Perhaps some view her as too risky considering all the scandals. The Democrats seem to have put all their money on Hillary.
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Darryl1958
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The Democratic party have access to much deeper pockets than the Koch brothers.
The Koch brothers have become a meme for the left to use in order to detract attention away from how deep the pockets that fund them go.
The Koch brothers have become a meme for the left to use in order to detract attention away from how deep the pockets that fund them go.
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Stylteralmaldo
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That is a good question. I think it is important to view the enviornment from a global perspective. I’m thinking that the Pope is looking at it from a global perspective. The United States has some of the most effective environmental laws in the world. I think it’s premature to think that world-wide there isn’t a concern to what we are doing to the planet. For example, we actually protect forests in the US and we replant trees that we cut down. While in South America, where the Pope is quite familiar with, there is devastating deforestation going on. There may be many people complicit in allowing that to happen. Perhaps even people in the US who could do something about it but chose to look the other way.
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Stylteralmaldo
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I think whether someone puts a used pop can in the proper blue bin or not is morally neutral.
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didymus
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Well, I wish His Holiness and the Bishops would stay away from secular/ political issues and spend more time defending the Faith. We are not bound by Papal declarations on subjects like global warming but he is certainly more entitled to an opinion than Rick Santorum – His Holiness is, after a a scientist (chemical engineer).
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Darryl1958
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Lol. WE have a advertisement here on TV of a gruff gossipy used can with the caption that 'Every can you don’t recycle says something about you". I can seen that can now all dressed up in the pope’s cossack.
This is not a pressing moral concern for me either.
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Darryl1958
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I am not much interested into listening to a pope put out encyclicals on trivial concerns of everyday life either.
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SuperLuigi
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What’s interesting is that Wall Street isn’t concerned at all about Hillary Clinton.
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Probably not very many today. The fact is companies and corporations are not always the bogeyman that the Western left makes them out to be. In fact, many are environmentally responsible and publish reports on their activities as such. This is not a surprising development because there is demand in the marketplace for environmentally-friendly approaches.
I think there’s a mentality among some Christians who just want us to sweep all the major issues described in the prior comment under the rug and write out subsidy checks without question.
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Ender
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Actually, since this is a political as well as a scientific issue, and Santorum is a politician, this is exactly the kind of issue it is not only appropriate for him to address but necessary as well. As for the pope, his degree in chemical engineering is irrelevant. He almost surely has not done anything in that field for decades, and even if he had he would still not be competent to judge the science involved. Beyond that, the real reason it is not appropriate for him to take sides on the issue is the confusion it will sow by implying that his position is the moral one and those who do not accept it are acting immorally.
I doubt that he will actually say he believes AGW is true; I just can’t see that happening. What I expect he is more likely to suggest is that we should take action now to mitigate the problems that may happen if AGW turns out to be true. I consider that a bridge too far as well, but it is the better alternative. All in all, I think Cardinal Dulles had the right perspective on the involvement of the clergy in such issues.*“By issuing policy statements on matters that lie beyond their specific competence, and that pertain rather to experts in secular disciplines, the bishops diminish their own credibility in speaking about matters with which they are specially charged as spiritual leaders of the church.” *
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jediliz
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Persecution of Christians in Iran, etc, is a bigger problem than climate change.
I do recycle, though (and yes, that includes my soda pop cans, but i drink those rarely). I use reusable bags at the grocery store, too.
I do recycle, though (and yes, that includes my soda pop cans, but i drink those rarely). I use reusable bags at the grocery store, too.
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estesbob
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Why does it matter? He’s openly stating his views. Either you accept them or you don’t. Dismissing somebody because you don’t like who contributes to their campaign is a standard tactic to avoid discussing the issues .
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Vouthon
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You’ve hit on something very germane. Americans always seem to interpret church teaching through the lens of US politics. The church does not exist to serve only American needs; it exists to serve all humanity. Therefore one should not expect the Holy Father to speak for Americans alone. The US Bishops Conference is tasked with this prerogative, so if one seeks American-specific applications of church teaching then one should pay heed to them!
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JohnPaul
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Nailed it, thanks for the quote. Perhaps if Santorum had simply quoted C. Dulles this would not have been an issue for him.
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ishii
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Santorum’s problem is not what he said or did. Its that he has an R next to his name and that bothers liberal Democrat catholics.
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zz912
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Bingo.
That and desperation to claim that disagreement over prudential judgment over how best to care for the earth is in any way similar to the outright rejection of Catholic teaching by the DNC and the Democratic candidates.
If they can fool themselves into claiming he’s a cafeteria catholic, they can excuse their voting for those who virulently promote abortion.
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estesbob
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Correct-its another weapon in the arsenal of Democrat Catholics desperately trying to rationalize their support of people who stand in direct opposition to the core Moral teachings of the Church.Bingo.
That and desperation to claim that disagreement over prudential judgment over how best to care for the earth is in any way similar to the outright rejection of Catholic teaching by the DNC and the Democratic candidates.
If they can fool themselves into claiming he’s a cafeteria catholic, they can excuse their voting for those who virulently promote abortion.
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ProVobis
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At least he’s honest about his socialist position.
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