Pope and his homilies are equally interesting

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Pope Francis is so humble. This humility really touches me, and I’m sure it has touched my catholic brothers and sisters in the same way as well as Protestants and non Christians.
This pope is going to bring so much unity in the name of Christ. 🙂

I hope that I am lucky enough to meet him in person one day
I have him in my daily prayers
God bless the vicar of Christ
 
Chair point?
People are making a fuss that he sits on a chair instead of a throne. During the meeting with people of other faiths, He asked to sit in the same kind of chair as his guests. Radical traditionalists see this as the end of the papacy. Radical liberals see this as a sign that changes are coming. Of course their idea of change is doctrinal, which we know will never happen. We also know that the papacy will not die because of a chair either. I cringe when I see these comments. They’re very shallow.

I imagine our Holy Father St, Francis rolling his eyes at both sides, since he would invite Pope Gregory IX to sit on the floor with him whenever Gregory visited. Of course, Gregory was one of the first Secular Franciscans. Sitting on the ground was not out of the question for a Franciscan. It’s still not out of the question.
Pope Francis is so humble. This humility really touches me, and I’m sure it has touched my catholic brothers and sisters in the same way as well as Protestants and non Christians.
This pope is going to bring so much unity in the name of Christ. 🙂

I hope that I am lucky enough to meet him in person one day
I have him in my daily prayers
God bless the vicar of Christ
He’s humble in a very human way. His is not the kind of humility of self deprecation. Just the opposite. It’s based on a genuine belief that everyone is created in the image and likeness of God and that no one is a little more like God than his neighbor. I find that this makes him interesting. It’s a different way of expressing humility. Basically he says to himself, “I’m just a man.” Humility is not so much about what you say to others. It’s more about what you’re willing to see in yourself. This seams to be a man who looks at himself and see things like:

“I have to call the dentist to cancel my appointment.”

“I have to call the paper carrier to cancel my subscription.”

“I don’t want to make too many calls, because I don’t want to run up the Vatican’s phone bill.”

He’s looking at himself and acknowledging that he has responsibilities to others. Just because he’s pope does not mean that he can just forget that he promised the dentist to be there or that the paper service will need to know not to make that morning run. He even paid for his telephone calls with his own money. The priest who was doing the speaking in Spanish pointed this out. The translator did not catch it. The priest said that he had called the dentist and the paper delivery service and used a Spanish colloquialism: “al contado” which is the equivalent of “cash”. In other words, he paid the Vatican for the long distance telephone call. There is a sense of duty to others. Like St. Therese said, “love in little things.”

I’m wondering what he’s going to do when his money runs out, since popes don’t get salaries or stipends.
 
People are making a fuss that he sits on a chair instead of a throne. During the meeting with people of other faiths, He asked to sit in the same kind of chair as his guests. Radical traditionalists see this as the end of the papacy. Radical liberals see this as a sign that changes are coming. Of course their idea of change is doctrinal, which we know will never happen. We also know that the papacy will not die because of a chair either. I cringe when I see these comments. They’re very shallow.

I’m wondering what he’s going to do when his money runs out, since popes don’t get salaries or stipends.
Meh, he sits on a throne at his larger public Masses.

Money? I am sure the Holy See will open their coffers at his beck and call. In effect, it is his money, no?
 
The chair point seems to be getting a lot of mileage from left and right extremes. I’m not too sure what either side finds so fascinating about a chair – go figure.
I guess it’s the world we live in now but those camera clicks really irritated me watching these two men at prayer :mad:

I can appreciate the beauty within that scene.

While I try to connect with life and nature all around me, in silence, I can empathize with these two great men connecting with each other and God in silence and prayer.

And then we get that click click click :mad:

At the end, was Pope Francis giving Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI a gift? The Madonna Icon?

Sarah x 🙂
 
Meh, he sits on a throne at his larger public Masses.
He stands to give his homily though.
Money? I am sure the Holy See will open their coffers at his beck and call. In effect, it is his money, no?
No it’s not, it belongs to the Church and we all make up the Church.

Maybe Pope Francis will insist on the Vatican giving him an stipend equivalent to that of a parish priest in Rome (and no more)? Or as Bishop of the Diocese of Rome he could arrange this himself out of diocesan funds.
 
While I try to connect with life and nature all around me, in silence, I can empathize with these two great men connecting with each other and God in silence and prayer.
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God is to be found in all life and all nature, in all of His creation.
 
I guess it’s the world we live in now but those camera clicks really irritated me watching these two men at prayer :mad:

I can appreciate the beauty within that scene.

While I try to connect with life and nature all around me, in silence, I can empathize with these two great men connecting with each other and God in silence and prayer.

And then we get that click click click :mad:
Annoyed me as well. :mad:
At the end, was Pope Francis giving Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI a gift? The Madonna Icon?
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No it’s not, it belongs to the Church and we all make up the Church.
Yes, but someone administrates that money. If the Pope needs a toothbrush and he doesn’t have any cash on hand, I sincerely doubt he’d go without.
 
Meh, he sits on a throne at his larger public Masses.

Money? I am sure the Holy See will open their coffers at his beck and call. In effect, it is his money, no?
Actually, it is. It’s Church law that the assets of a diocese are the property of the bishop. Through the centuries the different popes have tried to establish policies and procedures to regulate this. For example, current law does not allow the bishop to use the diocesan assets for his personal gain or satisfaction. On the other hand, there are very few things that he cannot do without the permission of the Holy See.

Since the pope is the Holy See, he doesn’t need anyone’s permission to decide how to use Church assets.

In the case of the papacy, one has to separate that which is a patrimony of humanity held in trust by the Church and that which is actually the property of the Church.
He stands to give his homily though.
They say that he has never taught from a cathedra, because it is contrary to the Jesuit tradition. Remember that Jesuits only accept to be ordained bishop under obedience. But they are not bound to the formalities of being a bishop. They are only bound to the duties of the bishop.
No it’s not, it belongs to the Church and we all make up the Church.
No it does not belong to us anymore than the local parish belongs to the parishioners. This is very clear in Church law. The property of a diocese is the property of the bishop. The property of a religious community is their own. The lay faithful must support these works, but they have no control over them. As I said above. The pope has no one above him.
Maybe Pope Francis will insist on the Vatican giving him an stipend equivalent to that of a parish priest in Rome (and no more)? Or as Bishop of the Diocese of Rome he could arrange this himself out of diocesan funds.
He can actually do both. He can submit an invoice to the Diocese of Rome to be paid as the Bishop of Rome. He can submit an invoice to Vatican City State to be paid as the regent. They’re two separate entities with separate budgets. It does not have to be much. I have no idea how much he was paid in Buenos Aires, but it can even be that much.
I guess it’s the world we live in now but those camera clicks really irritated me watching these two men at prayer :mad:

Sarah x 🙂
It took me a minute to figure out what that was. I thought there was something wrong with my laptop, which scared the heck out of me. It’s not my laptop. It was given to the community by a lovely woman who purchased it for us so that we could use it to do this. It goes with the job. I have to make sure that when I’m no longer at this post the next person has a laptop.

I kept looking at my computer and then realized that the clicks were not the computer, but someone’s silly camera.
 
Does anyone remember the time of the Easter Vigil in Rome during previous years? Was it always at midnight?

I just saw the news that Pope Francis is going to celebrate it at 8:30 PM. I don’t recall it ever being this early. Interesting.

He’s sleeping in on Easter Sunday too. That mass is going to be at 10:15. Now I know that this mass was always at 9:00. A pope after my own heart. One who’s a slug in the morning, must like I am. 😃 I don’t wake up until the 3rd cup of tea.
 
I just saw the news that Pope Francis is going to celebrate it at 8:30 PM. I don’t recall it ever being this early. Interesting.
Don’t know when they had previous Easter Vigil Masses in Rome.

Reminds me of the times I work either Christmas Eve or Easter Vigil at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception and have tons of people come in during the Mass asking when the midnight Mass starts and you basically have to answer that the Mass is in progress. You would think people going to a pilgrimage location would actually look up the Mass schedule, especially for a important Mass like that. They very rarely actually have things at midnight due to things like Subway schedules and things like that in Washington DC.
 
Don’t know when they had previous Easter Vigil Masses in Rome.

Reminds me of the times I work either Christmas Eve or Easter Vigil at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception and have tons of people come in during the Mass asking when the midnight Mass starts and you basically have to answer that the Mass is in progress. You would think people going to a pilgrimage location would actually look up the Mass schedule, especially for a important Mass like that. They very rarely actually have things at midnight due to things like Subway schedules and things like that in Washington DC.
I know about that. I went to school at CUA.

When I was in Rome, I attended the Midnight Mass at Christmas. It was horrible. You came out of mass at 2 AM and there was no transportation except for taxis.
 
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Received 😃
It took me a minute to figure out what that was. I thought there was something wrong with my laptop, which scared the heck out of me. It’s not my laptop. It was given to the community by a lovely woman who purchased it for us so that we could use it to do this. It goes with the job. I have to make sure that when I’m no longer at this post the next person has a laptop.

I kept looking at my computer and then realized that the clicks were not the computer, but someone’s silly camera.
I realize the world has a deep interest in seeing these two men, especially because of the historical significance, but there should be some rule for photographers to make sure their cameras are on silent or something. :mad:

Kind lady. Kind gesture.

I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes if you have to go to the Brothers and tell them you broke the internet 😃

Sarah x 🙂
 
People are making a fuss that he sits on a chair instead of a throne. During the meeting with people of other faiths, He asked to sit in the same kind of chair as his guests. Radical traditionalists see this as the end of the papacy. Radical liberals see this as a sign that changes are coming. Of course their idea of change is doctrinal, which we know will never happen. We also know that the papacy will not die because of a chair either. I cringe when I see these comments. They’re very shallow.
They’re scary is what they are.
 
No it does not belong to us anymore than the local parish belongs to the parishioners. This is very clear in Church law. The property of a diocese is the property of the bishop.
So what happens, as in the case of my own parish, where the plot of land and the Church building itself was bought. built and paid for, entirely out of funds raised by local parishioners? I also believe that the deeds of the Church building are held in a trust, and legal protection clauses were put in place to protect the land from being used for any other purpose, but as a place of worship. Every single penny ever used to buy, build and maintain that Church has come from the parishioners.
 
Yes, but someone administrates that money. If the Pope needs a toothbrush and he doesn’t have any cash on hand, I sincerely doubt he’d go without.
I’ll bet though that Pope Francis would insist that he continued to use his current toothbrush until it really was tatty and very much beyond use, he’d probably then insist that someone goes to a local discount supermarket, by an economy toothbrush for him.
 
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