Pope Benedict XVI's resignation may lead to first black pope, Cardinal Peter Turkson

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Will the next Pope be Black? What would the effect be on the needs of third-world politics? Would he send a strong message to Catholics worldwide? His Papacy could result in true humanitarian aid being effective dispersed in developing countries.
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Robert,

This is thoughtful. I listened to NPR about this and the plea from Latin America is that 42% of the Catholics in the world are in Latin America and Latin America sees this as indicative of the need for a Latin American Pope. A black Pope would serve the needs of the Church. In consideration that we see many looking at different issues color is not the only issue.

Perhaps a Pope from Finland, as we have seen Lutherans from Finland posting here touting thier majority religion.

Perhaps a Pope from Ireland as the Irish have been left out of the mix and Lord knows they suffered as much as anybody and that suffering continues.

Perhaps a Pope from England to recognize and magnify the split of Henry VIII

There are many scenarious that make sense however the Holy Spirit will guide and give us the next Pope and then we will be left to wonder why.
 
I couldn’t care less about the skin color of whomever the Cardinals choose as the next Pope. As long as they allow themselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit in their deliberations, we will have the right man.

Having said that, I will be shocked if Turkson is chosen. His economic views are decidedly left of center to the point that one of the documents which came out of the office which he ran had to be walked back by the Vatican not that long ago.

Pope Benedict has written extensively and with great love on the meaning of Catholic Social Justice. In fact, he has set in motion some reform of Catholic Charity that will likely take a long time to manifest. There is no need to have someone from a specific place or who looks a certain way to teach the truth and frankly, having someone else come along and take a different direction then that of Pope Benedict might even be counter-productive. 67 of the 116 Cardinal-Electors were created by Pope Benedict, and the rest were created by Blessed John Paul II. forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=753526

I suspect that whomever is chosen as Pope will be one of the names that very few are throwing around. I heard a saying on EWTN last night which went something like “he who walks into the Conclave a Pope, walks out a Cardinal”. This one will probably hold true to form.

Peace of Christ,
 
I really doubt it, I also doubt Dolan. Probably a European or that Canadien cardinal.
 
CopticChristian said:
This is thoughtful. I listened to NPR about this and the plea from Latin America is that 42% of the Catholics in the world are in Latin America and Latin America sees this as indicative of the need for a Latin American Pope. A black Pope would serve the needs of the Church. In consideration that we see many looking at different issues color is not the only issue.
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Isn’t this pretty much the same argument that was the catalyst for the whole Catholic / Orthodox brouhaha? After all, “the capital of the empire used to be Rome, but now it’s Constantinople, so the leader of the Church should be a patriarch from here” sounds a whole lot like “42% of Catholics are in Latin America, [which is] indicative of the need for a Latin American pope”… 🤷
 
triumphguy said:
We’ve had at least three Popes from Africa already.
  • Pope Gelasius
  • Pope Miltiades
  • Pope Victor
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I remember reading somewhere that Pope Miltiades was actually black but in the late antiquity to be African basically meant to be a Berber. Berbers are very close to Europeans in phenotype.

Now, as for the prophecy regarding Peter the Roman, there’s a lot of arguments pointing towards forgery rather than actual work of St. Malachy.
 
Gorgias said:
Isn’t this pretty much the same argument that was the catalyst for the whole Catholic / Orthodox brouhaha? After all, “the capital of the empire used to be Rome, but now it’s Constantinople, so the leader of the Church should be a patriarch from here” sounds a whole lot like “42% of Catholics are in Latin America, [which is] indicative of the need for a Latin American pope”… 🤷
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Gorgias,

I am not stating an argument. I am stating a fact. I heard this on NPR. I also saw on EWTN, if you read my post above.

I have no argument one way or the other. I just added information to the discussion. In my opinion there are over a billion Catholics in the world. The next Pope will be selected from somewhere in the world. This you cannot argue.

That is my point of view.😃
 
JoeMike said:
Exactly what do Catholic Latinos need that only a Lat Am pope can do for them?
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Joe,

I have no idea…why not call one of them…

Here is the country code for Colombia…“57”…why not randomly call Colombia until you find a Catholic and see what they say. I am not arguing this. I am stating a fact.
 
CopticChristian said:
Joe,

I have no idea…why not call one of them…

Here is the country code for Colombia…“57”…why not randomly call Colombia until you find a Catholic and see what they say. I am not arguing this. I am stating a fact.
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This is not a fact, but a suggestion, and a rather bizarre one at that.
 
CopticChristian said:
I am not stating an argument. I am stating a fact. I heard this on NPR. I also saw on EWTN, if you read my post above.
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:rolleyes:

And the report you heard on NPR advanced an argument (i.e., an assertion) – that the next Pope should come from Latin America, since 42% of Catholics live there. Calm down, CC – I’m not saying that you’re argumentative, or that you agree with their line of thought: just that this notion is the same assertion that led to the controversy of whether the Church should be led by Rome or Constantinople… 😉
 
Cardinal Peter Turkson, Shhh
Cardinal Peter Turkson gave a wide ranging interview to the UK Telegraph about his vision and what it would mean if he is elected Pope.

creativeminorityreport.com/2013/02/cardinal-peter-turkson-shhh.html
My immediate reaction upon reading this interview, ‘he seems to want to be Pope, almost campaigning for it.’
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I am not sure we want a Pope who wants to be Pope.
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Don’t get me wrong, Cardinal Peter Turkson might make a great Pope, but his lack of circumspection in this interview is jarring to my mind.
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Additionally, he spoke about what happened at the last conclave. That is a no no. What happens during the conclave stays in the conclave.
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Combine this with some of his economic views, and I actually find myself hoping that he does not get elected as Supreme Pontiff.
 
pnewton said:
This is not a fact, but a suggestion, and a rather bizarre one at that.
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Pnewton,

You are wrong…

I stated a fact…
This is thoughtful. I listened to NPR about this and the plea from Latin America is that 42% of the Catholics in the world are in Latin America and Latin America sees this as indicative of the need for a Latin American Pope. A black Pope would serve the needs of the Church. In consideration that we see many looking at different issues color is not the only issue.
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I was asked this, that I believe is as bizarre, since the fact is related to listening to the radio, how would I know what any Latino thinks based on listening to the radio. Can you discern an answer?
Exactly what do Catholic Latinos need that only a Lat Am pope can do for them?
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I answered this…a suggestion…
I have no idea…why not call one of them…
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Here is the country code for Colombia…“57”…why not randomly call Colombia until you find a Catholic and see what they say. I am not arguing this. I am stating a fact.
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You judged it bizarre. Ok…it is a fact, a response to a question and a suggestion that makes as much sense as the question asked…🙂
 
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