As Jesus said: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." --Matthew 13:13-14
So the media understands the Pope better than many who have been understood to be faithful Catholics, just last year under Pope Benedict .
That scripture verse does not apply at all to this case.
When Jesus spoke, he let people like the jews and sadducees of his time, leave empty handed, because he knew they laid traps. He told sinners, who were not penitent, things harder to hear, on divorce, the commandments, it left them leaving away sad.
Those sinners that rejoiced at what he said, repented and followed him, they didn’t rejoice at the words and continued sinning, and sending pro-abortion “Thank yous” on Facebook
In this case, this is more like Peter making mistakes in front of Paul in acts.
And the fire that was consuming you was the Church’s teaching on contraception, abortion and homosexual activity? The pope has reasserted the Church’s teachings on these issues. His point is that we should be on fire for living the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not reducing the Catholic Faith to merely condemning 3 sins.
When was the Church Faithful merely condemning 3 sins?? This is the first time I ever heard of that accusation, not to mention, most laity never hear about these sins in the pulpits, maybe from church bulletin blanket statements at best. There were millions of Catholics like me in America who never heard the difference between intrinsic evil and issues like the death enalty – that we could ignore some, and choose a favorite teaching. The faith has been nothing more of a cultural identification. Certainly not something you would die for literally. How can it be precious at all? If it was just something like citizenship or a club?
I never heard about contraception in its fullness or humanae vitae. I knew the Church disapproved maybe even acknowledged remotely they had their reasons, but I didn’t know really why. The only ones on a broad scale who have been reiterating Church teaching have been the secular media ironically.
Its because the church locally have not really gone out of their way to counter the media narrative because they’ve been either complicit WITH the culture or ignorant as the laity. The Apologetics phenomenon only occurred way after the sexual revolution so how can we blame them for responding to the culture after the consequential fruit have come to full bloom?? Now all of a sudden Catholics are chastizing Catholics who may not have been guilty of any wrong doing??? Fr Pavone was wrong?? Lila Rose was single minded??
Ok now this takes the cake. Again, the pope didn’t say anything against Church teaching. Homosexual acts, abortion and contraception are still sins. The pope’s point is that our Catholic Faith should not be reduced to merely condemning these three sins.
That’s not what I got from his point, his point was fairly innocuous but it was poorly said.
His answer about homosexuality was vague and he didn’t even answer his own question by the end of it. It gave no one a real answer. Any true secular homosexual on the outside, why should he be interested in God’s mercy, if there is no need to repent? The problem with his answer was it seemed as if the Pope wants to both talk to two sets of people at the same time!
yes it’s true that the faithful should always be reminded of the person hood when they treat them with Charity in trying to bringing them the truth; but the homosexual is left hanging on what the Catechism states outright, how would HE know??? So unknown to the secular homosexual who lauds the pope with glee; The pope omits his speech , with reticence and guardedness because many still don’t know it disapproves of the act, they just think it condemns the person themselves. His answer was awful. His statements as Bishop Bergoglio, for some reason are completely different than the tone he has now.
Of course the Pope hasn’t said anything literally against Church teaching. He’s the Pope!
It doesn’t mean the individual person is coming out confusing, because the man in whatever Jesuit capacity may be conflicting with the Pope with his presumption that he is still the casually circumspect priest from Buenos Aires.
It’s no different than when Pope Benedict would switch and publish a book under the name Ratzinger.
Yes they are sins, but when the people were ready to stone the woman found in adultery, Christ reached out to her and saved her from being stoned to death.
The problem with the Church is that it hasn’t been going out to stone the woman anymore in error.
It just tells the woman in adultery, "oh that’s nice! " Both her Catholic Mother, and her Catholic neighbors are interested in the baby shower because they don’t want to offend the person living in sin.
The Church majority hasn’t been guilty of overzealousness, they’ve been guilty of political correctness and false tolerance. We’ve been guilty of indifference and tepidity, especially among many local priests.
And those who are aware of , possibly not being complacent, are not out there with a stone, they are seeking answers and I wish the Pope would say Go and sin more! as Christ said, that there’s more to life than this world. Instead its been a bunch of incomplete answers, left unanswered and inexplicit.
I guess I need clarification.
the poster was very kind to you.