Pope condemns possession of nuclear weapons

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AlNg said:
Possibly yes. However, I think it is even more rude still to drop atomic bombs on Japan and thereby murder thousands of innocent children.
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You are digressing. I was not addressing the nuclear issue which evokes many different opinions.
I am discussing the personal insults in this thread.
In case you forgot abortion kills more children than all nuclear attacks and accidents but again that’s not what I am addressing!
 
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thistle said:
You are digressing. I was not addressing the nuclear issue which evokes many different opinions.
I am discussing the personal insults in this thread.
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I thought that the thread was about the condemnation of nuclear weapons. I don’t see why it is a digression to talk about why nuclear weapons should be condemned.
 
So perhaps Russia should unilaterally disarm itself of all nuclear weapons.
Then, would the U.S. follow? Along with Britain and France? Then, Pakistan, India, and North Korea would be free to practice nuclear blackmail on the rest of the world.
 
Using the term “title wave” does not do anything for your credibility. In any case, no, the radiation levels are not “lethal” outside of the plant. Radioactive waste casks were dumped in the ocean because water is an effective radiation shield, albeit not as efficient as lead or concrete. Fukushima Daiichi was SCRAMed as soon as the earthquake hit; what caused the hydrogen explosion was decay heat from the fission products remaining in the fuel. The reactor was flooded with seawater because the water keeps it cool while the chloride levels absorb neutrons equivalent to 100 ppm boron dissolved in the water, ensuring the fuel will never reach criticality.
 
Your concept is more than unusual; it’s heretical. We believe in a literal, bodily return of Jesus Christ to this Earth, a literal Resurrection of the Dead, and a literal immortality of the body in glory for the saints and in torment for the reprobate. He is, now and forevermore, God Incarnate, and His glorified Body is the prototype of the bodies promised to the saints at the Resurrection of the Dead.
 
What more research would you like? Coal plants emit far more radioactivity than nuclear plants! The survivors of the atomic bombs and Chernobyl were studied for decades to observe the long-term health effects of radiation. You are a luddite, making baseless accusations against people who know more than you, simply because you do not understand what they are talking about and do not care to learn. Instead, you impute malicious deception on the part of the experts, when you can’t even explain to us what your objection is.

And would you please address the issue I raised about the only way to be rid of nuclear weapons is to burn up the cores. In multiple rounds of debate, you have insulted me, called me a liar, and still have not answered my claim that nuclear disarmament requires nuclear power plants. The surplus weapons-grade uranium after the fall of the Soviet Union required half of America’s commercial nuclear fleet 20 years to consume, because one ton of weapons grade material makes twenty tons of reactor fuel.
 
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The bomb has not been used since 1945.
Radiation produced from nuclear reactors has been killing people for years and years and years. And has the potential for killing people for many, many hundreds of years to come.
 
Those slaughtered by YHWH that day will be scattered across the world from end to end. No dirge will be raised for them; no one will gather them or bury them; they will stay lying on the ground like dung.
Jeremiah 25:33

If the prophets of the OT had not predicted a global nuclear war, then I would not be warning about it. Note that Genesis 8:21 indicates that the cause of the above mentioned catastrophe cannot be any kind of natural disaster which could be termed as an act of God.
Isaiah 3:17-24 predicted a 20th century event and also included the term, “that day,” which is a known OT reference to the Great Day of YHWH.
 
mythbuster1 said:
Your concept is more than unusual; it’s heretical. We believe in a literal, bodily return of Jesus Christ to this Earth, a literal Resurrection of the Dead, and a literal immortality of the body in glory for the saints and in torment for the reprobate. He is, now and forevermore, God Incarnate, and His glorified Body is the prototype of the bodies promised to the saints at the Resurrection of the Dead.
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While I do like the Catholic Church, as a confirmed member of the Episcopal church, I am not bound to agree with all of the CCC. For instance the CCC defines the fire of Luke 12:49 as the fire of the Pentecost, a good thing. In the Anglican view, that fire of 12:49 is the same as the fire of Isaiah 66:15-16, a very bad thing from the human perspective. In 12:49 Jesus says that He is to bring “fire to the earth.” He does not say He is bringing fire for the enlightenment of men. The fire that is brought to the earth is not the tongues like fire of the Pentecost. It must be a real fire. In my view it is the fire of a global nuclear war.
 
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So perhaps Russia should unilaterally disarm itself of all nuclear weapons.
Then, would the U.S. follow? Along with Britain and France? Then, Pakistan, India, and North Korea would be free to practice nuclear blackmail on the rest of the world.
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I have recommended that, as a way to avoid the disaster of a global nuclear war, the USA should undertake unilateral nuclear disarmament. That would leave Russia as the world’s sole nuclear superpower. The USA would have to accept living under the Russian nuclear umbrella. I do not believe that Russia would use nuclear blackmail against a disarmed USA. I would hope that Russia would force the minor nuclear players to disarm their nukes.
 
So, if it is so safe at places like Chernobyl, why are there no people living there now?
Why are the people who are attempting to clean up the radioactive mess in Japan wearing protective gear.
Calling me names (You are a luddite), will not change the facts.
It is imperative that we rid ourselves of the nuclear menace caused through the waste from nuclear power plants.
 
AlNg said:
I thought that the thread was about the condemnation of nuclear weapons. I don’t see why it is a digression to talk about why nuclear weapons should be condemned.
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You know perfectly well I have been addressing the personal insults of one poster to another. Subject matter of the thread is irrelevant for that.
 
undead_rat said:
I have recommended that, as a way to avoid the disaster of a global nuclear war, the USA should undertake unilateral nuclear disarmament. That would leave Russia as the world’s sole nuclear superpower. The USA would have to accept living under the Russian nuclear umbrella. I do not believe that Russia would use nuclear blackmail against a disarmed USA. I would hope that Russia would force the minor nuclear players to disarm their nukes.
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lt’s not living under a Russian nuclear umbrella that concerns me. It’s living under Russian domination. I have no confidence that Russia would not use nuclear superiority for their own political ends.
 
undead_rat said:
The USA would have to accept living under the Russian nuclear umbrella. I do not believe that Russia would use nuclear blackmail against a disarmed USA.
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RI-I-I-IGHT!!! Pull the other leg; it’s got a bell on it.

(BA in Russian, MA in Soviet Studies, 25 years as a Soviet Union analyst.)

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I know nuclear weapons helped end WWII but it is the most terrible thing ever invented. I wish they never would have come in to existence that and nuclear power. They are pure evil at their core. We still have leaking reactors contaminating our oceans in Japan. Chernobyl is still a ticking time bomb.

Now that the cat it out of the bag I’m not sure we will ever be able to get it rid of them with the Chess match going on in the world.

Russia has added suitcase nukes, Iran probably has them, we know North Korea does, India, Pakistan, UK, China, France, and possibly Israel. Not to mention the other countries that probably have access we don’t know about.
 
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