Pope Francis admits there is a "Gay Lobby" in the Vatican

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Other outlets are reporting the same. catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=18120

Things like this, which have been speculated on for years (The Lavender Mafia), may be a large part of the reason that His Holiness Pope Benedict decided that he should not continue. He may very well have decided that it would take someone with more energy and time than he had to root this out and make the changes which are needed.

catholicculture.org/commentary/otr.cfm?id=1105
rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/06/pope-to-latin-american-religious-full.html
 
I’ve heard about this element before, but I don’t recall any of the past Popes mentioning it. Can anyone confirm that this is the first time, or did his predecessors ever talk about it?
 
Heretics used to be burned at the stake and this is a prime example of why. Not that I am advocating that, but souls are at stake. Let these ravenous wolves be anathema in my humble opinion.
 
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A gay lobby could have many meanings. It could be outside influences, as are the lobbies that work to influence legislation in our Congress, or it could be bishops with pastoral concern for the homosexual community. If it were corruption in the Church itself, I would expect to see a few firings or dismissals. We’ll just have to wait and see, while the media spins its wheels in speculation as it tries to gin up interest to sell “newspapers.”
 
"In his viral paper “Standing with the Pope Against Homoheresy”, Fr. Dariusz Oko, Ph.D. revealed that Pope Benedict XVI was battling a huge homosexual underground in the Vatican known as the Lavender Mafia “When they achieve a decision-making position, they try to promote and advance mostly those whose nature is similar to theirs”

ArguingWithAtheists.com
 
I thought this was refuted along with his so-called comments about traditionalists.
 
Something that may be of interest on this subject from CA’s own Jimmy Akin:

Pope Francis and the Vatican “gay lobby”—10 things to know and share

The 10 things he discusses are:


  1. *]What did Pope Francis say?
    *]Where and when did he say this?
    *]Did he really say it?
    *]What did he mean by a “gay lobby”?
    *]What might a gay lobby try to do?
    *]How big is the “gay lobby”?
    *]Where have we heard about this before?
    *]Where did Pope Francis get his information about the “gay lobby”?
    *]What will happen now?
    *]What else might they do?

    You can go to the link to see what he presents about each of those 10 “things”
 
I thought it seemed pretty clear to me. I don’t see why people are afraid of this.🤷
 
I read what the Pope said in Spanish. He said there is a gay lobby and inferred he is saddened by that. That was it - no particulars.
 
markomalley said:
Something that may be of interest on this subject from CA’s own Jimmy Akin:

Pope Francis and the Vatican “gay lobby”—10 things to know and share

The 10 things he discusses are:


  1. *]What did Pope Francis say?
    *]Where and when did he say this?
    *]Did he really say it?
    *]What did he mean by a “gay lobby”?
    *]What might a gay lobby try to do?
    *]How big is the “gay lobby”?
    *]Where have we heard about this before?
    *]Where did Pope Francis get his information about the “gay lobby”?
    *]What will happen now?
    *]What else might they do?

    You can go to the link to see what he presents about each of those 10 “things”
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  1. Thanks 👍
 
The news article I read said a little more about what Pope Francis said.

Besides confirming the lobby, he very humbly referred to himself as not being the best administrator but said that he had appointed the Cardinal commission to address the reform.

I think we have such a good, honest, humble and wise Pope!
 
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